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Re: Could this be the best game of all time by a Female Player?

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:50 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am
The problem of Hou yifan is not playing against weak opponents.
Hou Yifan does not do well enough against strong opponents to increase her rating.

Maybe it is because she does not invest a lot of time on chess but the facts are that hou Yifan is clearly weaker than the level that Judit Polgar got in the past.

Note also that Hou Yifan won against Judit when Judit was weaker than her best playing strength(not at the time Judit got to the top 10 players of the world).

Here are her last 2 tournaments when she played against strong opponents.
https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -05-01&t=0

https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -02-01&t=0
I used Elostat with a seed Elo of 2600 and here are her results against all opponents rated at 2500 Elo or more (filtered using SCID):

Code: Select all

    Program                   Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
  1 Carlsen, Magnus         : 3044  154 322     7    92.9 %   2598   14.3 %
  2 Xiu, Deshun             : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  3 Eljanov, Pavel          : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  4 Nakamura, Hikaru        : 2899  169 126    20    85.0 %   2598   30.0 %
  5 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime : 2878  320 212     6    83.3 %   2598   33.3 %
  6 Mamedov, Rauf           : 2839  359 204     5    80.0 %   2598   40.0 %
  7 Karjakin, Sergey        : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  8 Anand, Viswanathan      : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  9 Wang, Yue               : 2789  241 137     8    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 10 Svidler, Peter          : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 11 Korobov, Anton          : 2789  409 675     4    75.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 12 Ni, Hua                 : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 13 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar  : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 14 Wang, Hao               : 2757  290 255     7    71.4 %   2598   28.6 %
 15 Kramnik, Vladimir       : 2750  169 159    17    70.6 %   2598   23.5 %
 16 Van Wely, Loek          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 17 Aronian, Levon          : 2745  179 104    10    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 18 Adams, Michael          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 19 Harikrishna, P          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 20 Caruana, Fabiano        : 2736  102  99    37    68.9 %   2598   29.7 %
 21 Naiditsch, Arkadij      : 2718  155 138    12    66.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 22 Ponomariov, Ruslan      : 2718  131 115    15    66.7 %   2598   53.3 %
 23 Ivanchuk, Vassily       : 2718  268 112     6    66.7 %   2598   66.7 %
 24 Ding, Liren             : 2706  171 154    10    65.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 25 Bu, Xiangzhi            : 2695  148  76    11    63.6 %   2598   72.7 %
 26 Zhou, Jianchao          : 2687  136  70    12    62.5 %   2598   75.0 %
 27 Kosteniuk, A            : 2677  169 153     9    61.1 %   2598   55.6 %
 28 Wei, Yi                 : 2668  340  80     5    60.0 %   2598   80.0 %
 29 Karpov, Anatoly         : 2664  136 132    16    59.4 %   2598   43.8 %
 30 Short, Nigel D          : 2662  166 160    11    59.1 %   2598   45.5 %
 31 Sasikiran, Krishnan     : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 32 Azarov, Sergei          : 2656  342 316     6    58.3 %   2598   16.7 %
 33 Li, Chao                : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 34 So, Wesley              : 2648  225  55     7    57.1 %   2598   85.7 %
 35 Vitiugov, Nikita        : 2648  148 144    14    57.1 %   2598   42.9 %
 36 Giri, Anish             : 2637  144 130     9    55.6 %   2598   66.7 %
 37 Negi, Parimarjan        : 2619  141 140    17    52.9 %   2598   35.3 %
 38 Hou, Yifan              : 2598   17  17   955    49.5 %   2602   43.1 %
 39 Kosintseva, Tatiana     : 2598  182 182    10    50.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 40 Yu, Yangyi              : 2598  130 130    11    50.0 %   2598   63.6 %
 41 Shirov, Alexei          : 2598  271 271     6    50.0 %   2598   33.3 %
 42 Nepomniachtchi, Ian     : 2598  220 220     7    50.0 %   2598   42.9 %
 43 Harika, Dronavalli      : 2575   74  86    15    46.7 %   2598   80.0 %
 44 Kosteniuk, Alexandra    : 2571  146 148    13    46.2 %   2598   46.2 %
 45 Muzychuk, Anna          : 2565  105 107    21    45.2 %   2598   52.4 %
 46 Zhou, Weiqi             : 2554  150 164     8    43.8 %   2598   62.5 %
 47 Gunina, Valentina       : 2548  183 189    14    42.9 %   2598   14.3 %
 48 Ju, Wenjun              : 2543  123 126    19    42.1 %   2598   42.1 %
 49 Cmilyte, Viktorija      : 2540  197 205    12    41.7 %   2598   16.7 %
 50 Vallejo Pons, Francisco : 2540  215 230     6    41.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 51 Lahno, Kateryna         : 2532  149 153    16    40.6 %   2598   31.2 %
 52 Li, Shilong             : 2528  279 300     5    40.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 53 Ruck, Robert            : 2528  441 530     5    40.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 54 Inarkiev, Ernesto       : 2516  169 175    13    38.5 %   2598   30.8 %
 55 Lagno, Kateryna         : 2514  121 125    21    38.1 %   2598   38.1 %
 56 Laznicka, Viktor        : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 57 Gareyev, Timur          : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 58 Navara, David           : 2496  212 231     7    35.7 %   2598   42.9 %
 59 Zhao, Xue               : 2483   92 100    25    34.0 %   2598   52.0 %
 60 Zhao, Jun               : 2478  266 295     6    33.3 %   2598   33.3 %
 61 Stefanova, Antoaneta    : 2471  142 149    20    32.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 62 Koneru, H               : 2468  155 164    14    32.1 %   2598   35.7 %
 63 Kosintseva, Nadezhda    : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 64 Sebag, Marie            : 2451  362 453     5    30.0 %   2598   20.0 %
 65 Najer, Evgeniy          : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 66 Koneru, Humpy           : 2415  102 110    29    25.9 %   2598   37.9 %
 67 Kravtsiv, Martyn        : 2407  675 409     4    25.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 68 Dzagnidze, Nana         : 2380  139 155    18    22.2 %   2598   33.3 %
 69 Muzychuk, Mariya        : 2377  111 156    16    21.9 %   2598   43.8 %
 70 Ushenina, Anna          : 2366  198 225    12    20.8 %   2598   25.0 %
 71 Khotenashvili, Bela     : 2357  514 359     5    20.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 72 Cramling, Pia           : 2357  171 192    15    20.0 %   2598   26.7 %
 73 Danielian, Elina        : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 74 Zhu, Chen               : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
She got 30% of the points verses Caruna, and 43% against So. I think that is pretty good. Carlsen beat her brains in, but Carlsen beats everybody's brains in.
There are some problems with the data, for instance I notice that Koneru, Humpy is also listed as Koneru, H which isn't proper. But I think she does pretty well against strong opponents.

Now, there are others who do not study as hard as they should and yet they do well. That charge was made against Capablanca, but I do not know how true it was.
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Re: Could this be the best game of all time by a Female Player?

Post by Chessqueen » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:03 am

Dann Corbit wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:50 pm
Uri Blass wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am
The problem of Hou yifan is not playing against weak opponents.
Hou Yifan does not do well enough against strong opponents to increase her rating.

Maybe it is because she does not invest a lot of time on chess but the facts are that hou Yifan is clearly weaker than the level that Judit Polgar got in the past.

Note also that Hou Yifan won against Judit when Judit was weaker than her best playing strength(not at the time Judit got to the top 10 players of the world).

Here are her last 2 tournaments when she played against strong opponents.
https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -05-01&t=0

https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -02-01&t=0
I used Elostat with a seed Elo of 2600 and here are her results against all opponents rated at 2500 Elo or more (filtered using SCID):

Code: Select all

    Program                   Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
  1 Carlsen, Magnus         : 3044  154 322     7    92.9 %   2598   14.3 %
  2 Xiu, Deshun             : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  3 Eljanov, Pavel          : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  4 Nakamura, Hikaru        : 2899  169 126    20    85.0 %   2598   30.0 %
  5 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime : 2878  320 212     6    83.3 %   2598   33.3 %
  6 Mamedov, Rauf           : 2839  359 204     5    80.0 %   2598   40.0 %
  7 Karjakin, Sergey        : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  8 Anand, Viswanathan      : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  9 Wang, Yue               : 2789  241 137     8    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 10 Svidler, Peter          : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 11 Korobov, Anton          : 2789  409 675     4    75.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 12 Ni, Hua                 : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 13 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar  : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 14 Wang, Hao               : 2757  290 255     7    71.4 %   2598   28.6 %
 15 Kramnik, Vladimir       : 2750  169 159    17    70.6 %   2598   23.5 %
 16 Van Wely, Loek          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 17 Aronian, Levon          : 2745  179 104    10    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 18 Adams, Michael          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 19 Harikrishna, P          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 20 Caruana, Fabiano        : 2736  102  99    37    68.9 %   2598   29.7 %
 21 Naiditsch, Arkadij      : 2718  155 138    12    66.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 22 Ponomariov, Ruslan      : 2718  131 115    15    66.7 %   2598   53.3 %
 23 Ivanchuk, Vassily       : 2718  268 112     6    66.7 %   2598   66.7 %
 24 Ding, Liren             : 2706  171 154    10    65.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 25 Bu, Xiangzhi            : 2695  148  76    11    63.6 %   2598   72.7 %
 26 Zhou, Jianchao          : 2687  136  70    12    62.5 %   2598   75.0 %
 27 Kosteniuk, A            : 2677  169 153     9    61.1 %   2598   55.6 %
 28 Wei, Yi                 : 2668  340  80     5    60.0 %   2598   80.0 %
 29 Karpov, Anatoly         : 2664  136 132    16    59.4 %   2598   43.8 %
 30 Short, Nigel D          : 2662  166 160    11    59.1 %   2598   45.5 %
 31 Sasikiran, Krishnan     : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 32 Azarov, Sergei          : 2656  342 316     6    58.3 %   2598   16.7 %
 33 Li, Chao                : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 34 So, Wesley              : 2648  225  55     7    57.1 %   2598   85.7 %
 35 Vitiugov, Nikita        : 2648  148 144    14    57.1 %   2598   42.9 %
 36 Giri, Anish             : 2637  144 130     9    55.6 %   2598   66.7 %
 37 Negi, Parimarjan        : 2619  141 140    17    52.9 %   2598   35.3 %
 38 Hou, Yifan              : 2598   17  17   955    49.5 %   2602   43.1 %
 39 Kosintseva, Tatiana     : 2598  182 182    10    50.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 40 Yu, Yangyi              : 2598  130 130    11    50.0 %   2598   63.6 %
 41 Shirov, Alexei          : 2598  271 271     6    50.0 %   2598   33.3 %
 42 Nepomniachtchi, Ian     : 2598  220 220     7    50.0 %   2598   42.9 %
 43 Harika, Dronavalli      : 2575   74  86    15    46.7 %   2598   80.0 %
 44 Kosteniuk, Alexandra    : 2571  146 148    13    46.2 %   2598   46.2 %
 45 Muzychuk, Anna          : 2565  105 107    21    45.2 %   2598   52.4 %
 46 Zhou, Weiqi             : 2554  150 164     8    43.8 %   2598   62.5 %
 47 Gunina, Valentina       : 2548  183 189    14    42.9 %   2598   14.3 %
 48 Ju, Wenjun              : 2543  123 126    19    42.1 %   2598   42.1 %
 49 Cmilyte, Viktorija      : 2540  197 205    12    41.7 %   2598   16.7 %
 50 Vallejo Pons, Francisco : 2540  215 230     6    41.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 51 Lahno, Kateryna         : 2532  149 153    16    40.6 %   2598   31.2 %
 52 Li, Shilong             : 2528  279 300     5    40.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 53 Ruck, Robert            : 2528  441 530     5    40.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 54 Inarkiev, Ernesto       : 2516  169 175    13    38.5 %   2598   30.8 %
 55 Lagno, Kateryna         : 2514  121 125    21    38.1 %   2598   38.1 %
 56 Laznicka, Viktor        : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 57 Gareyev, Timur          : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 58 Navara, David           : 2496  212 231     7    35.7 %   2598   42.9 %
 59 Zhao, Xue               : 2483   92 100    25    34.0 %   2598   52.0 %
 60 Zhao, Jun               : 2478  266 295     6    33.3 %   2598   33.3 %
 61 Stefanova, Antoaneta    : 2471  142 149    20    32.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 62 Koneru, H               : 2468  155 164    14    32.1 %   2598   35.7 %
 63 Kosintseva, Nadezhda    : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 64 Sebag, Marie            : 2451  362 453     5    30.0 %   2598   20.0 %
 65 Najer, Evgeniy          : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 66 Koneru, Humpy           : 2415  102 110    29    25.9 %   2598   37.9 %
 67 Kravtsiv, Martyn        : 2407  675 409     4    25.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 68 Dzagnidze, Nana         : 2380  139 155    18    22.2 %   2598   33.3 %
 69 Muzychuk, Mariya        : 2377  111 156    16    21.9 %   2598   43.8 %
 70 Ushenina, Anna          : 2366  198 225    12    20.8 %   2598   25.0 %
 71 Khotenashvili, Bela     : 2357  514 359     5    20.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 72 Cramling, Pia           : 2357  171 192    15    20.0 %   2598   26.7 %
 73 Danielian, Elina        : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 74 Zhu, Chen               : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
She got 30% of the points verses Caruna, and 43% against So. I think that is pretty good. Carlsen beat her brains in, but Carlsen beats everybody's brains in.
There are some problems with the data, for instance I notice that Koneru, Humpy is also listed as Koneru, H which isn't proper. But I think she does pretty well against strong opponents.

Now, there are others who do not study as hard as they should and yet they do well. That charge was made against Capablanca, but I do not know how true it was.
In comparison to Judit Polgal who spent 75% of her entire youngest life studying chess "The atmosphere of chess fanaticism created by Laszlo Polgar, the head of the family, and his older daughters, was the fertile soil on which the divine seed fell. The talented child had no doubt why she’d come into the world. From childhood onwards she studied with the best coaches, worked a lot and devoted herself entirely to her goal – which is why she became great."

These are some questions asked to Hou Yifan in an interview:
How do you study chess these days when you have also your lessons in the university?

Since I have my university and tournaments I’m looking for balance. I try to find time to prepare for my lessons and exams and I also need to find time to prepare for chess events. So before some key tournaments I try to find few days for preparation. My university is one of the best universities in China, so like any normal student I have to study a lot and I don’t have any advantages. I want to finish my education in time – after 4 years.

I’m not the kind of person, who forces myself to study chess every day. I follow my feelings. If I feel like I want to look at chess, so I will just study chess. If I want some rest I will rest.

People in China consider chess as a job or career. So it happens they ask me if chess is the only thing I do in my life and I answer – no, I’m also a student. I have my career of professional chess player right now but it doesn’t mean I will only play chess all my life.

Now you are 20 years old, so how can you imagine your life in 10 years from now?

Normally, I don’t imagine my life that far but I can say that in few years I will mainly focus on chess. Maybe I will finish my master degree. I hope I would be still playing chess in the next 10 years but if not I hope my activity would be connected with chess."
https://chesspro.ru/interview/hoy_yifan_interview_eng

When you compare two different persons at a given sport you also have to take into consideration the natural given born talent and how much time they dedicate to a particular sport.

When Reporter ask Dominican baseball players why they become so good at Baseball, they usually answer well in the USA most tennagers play different sports such as Basketball, American Football and Baseball at the same time, but they do NOT dedicate themselves to just one sport like we do in the Dom. Rep.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1EK ... uFacl38SiA

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Re: Could this be the best game of all time by a Female Player?

Post by Chessqueen » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:36 pm

Chessqueen wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:03 am
Dann Corbit wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:50 pm
Uri Blass wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am
The problem of Hou yifan is not playing against weak opponents.
Hou Yifan does not do well enough against strong opponents to increase her rating.

Maybe it is because she does not invest a lot of time on chess but the facts are that hou Yifan is clearly weaker than the level that Judit Polgar got in the past.

Note also that Hou Yifan won against Judit when Judit was weaker than her best playing strength(not at the time Judit got to the top 10 players of the world).

Here are her last 2 tournaments when she played against strong opponents.
https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -05-01&t=0

https://ratings.fide.com/individual_cal ... -02-01&t=0
I used Elostat with a seed Elo of 2600 and here are her results against all opponents rated at 2500 Elo or more (filtered using SCID):

Code: Select all

    Program                   Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
  1 Carlsen, Magnus         : 3044  154 322     7    92.9 %   2598   14.3 %
  2 Xiu, Deshun             : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  3 Eljanov, Pavel          : 2936  262 318     4    87.5 %   2598   25.0 %
  4 Nakamura, Hikaru        : 2899  169 126    20    85.0 %   2598   30.0 %
  5 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime : 2878  320 212     6    83.3 %   2598   33.3 %
  6 Mamedov, Rauf           : 2839  359 204     5    80.0 %   2598   40.0 %
  7 Karjakin, Sergey        : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  8 Anand, Viswanathan      : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
  9 Wang, Yue               : 2789  241 137     8    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 10 Svidler, Peter          : 2789  409 187     4    75.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 11 Korobov, Anton          : 2789  409 675     4    75.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 12 Ni, Hua                 : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 13 Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar  : 2764  204 118     9    72.2 %   2598   55.6 %
 14 Wang, Hao               : 2757  290 255     7    71.4 %   2598   28.6 %
 15 Kramnik, Vladimir       : 2750  169 159    17    70.6 %   2598   23.5 %
 16 Van Wely, Loek          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 17 Aronian, Levon          : 2745  179 104    10    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 18 Adams, Michael          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 19 Harikrishna, P          : 2745  354 139     5    70.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 20 Caruana, Fabiano        : 2736  102  99    37    68.9 %   2598   29.7 %
 21 Naiditsch, Arkadij      : 2718  155 138    12    66.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 22 Ponomariov, Ruslan      : 2718  131 115    15    66.7 %   2598   53.3 %
 23 Ivanchuk, Vassily       : 2718  268 112     6    66.7 %   2598   66.7 %
 24 Ding, Liren             : 2706  171 154    10    65.0 %   2598   50.0 %
 25 Bu, Xiangzhi            : 2695  148  76    11    63.6 %   2598   72.7 %
 26 Zhou, Jianchao          : 2687  136  70    12    62.5 %   2598   75.0 %
 27 Kosteniuk, A            : 2677  169 153     9    61.1 %   2598   55.6 %
 28 Wei, Yi                 : 2668  340  80     5    60.0 %   2598   80.0 %
 29 Karpov, Anatoly         : 2664  136 132    16    59.4 %   2598   43.8 %
 30 Short, Nigel D          : 2662  166 160    11    59.1 %   2598   45.5 %
 31 Sasikiran, Krishnan     : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 32 Azarov, Sergei          : 2656  342 316     6    58.3 %   2598   16.7 %
 33 Li, Chao                : 2656  230 215     6    58.3 %   2598   50.0 %
 34 So, Wesley              : 2648  225  55     7    57.1 %   2598   85.7 %
 35 Vitiugov, Nikita        : 2648  148 144    14    57.1 %   2598   42.9 %
 36 Giri, Anish             : 2637  144 130     9    55.6 %   2598   66.7 %
 37 Negi, Parimarjan        : 2619  141 140    17    52.9 %   2598   35.3 %
 38 Hou, Yifan              : 2598   17  17   955    49.5 %   2602   43.1 %
 39 Kosintseva, Tatiana     : 2598  182 182    10    50.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 40 Yu, Yangyi              : 2598  130 130    11    50.0 %   2598   63.6 %
 41 Shirov, Alexei          : 2598  271 271     6    50.0 %   2598   33.3 %
 42 Nepomniachtchi, Ian     : 2598  220 220     7    50.0 %   2598   42.9 %
 43 Harika, Dronavalli      : 2575   74  86    15    46.7 %   2598   80.0 %
 44 Kosteniuk, Alexandra    : 2571  146 148    13    46.2 %   2598   46.2 %
 45 Muzychuk, Anna          : 2565  105 107    21    45.2 %   2598   52.4 %
 46 Zhou, Weiqi             : 2554  150 164     8    43.8 %   2598   62.5 %
 47 Gunina, Valentina       : 2548  183 189    14    42.9 %   2598   14.3 %
 48 Ju, Wenjun              : 2543  123 126    19    42.1 %   2598   42.1 %
 49 Cmilyte, Viktorija      : 2540  197 205    12    41.7 %   2598   16.7 %
 50 Vallejo Pons, Francisco : 2540  215 230     6    41.7 %   2598   50.0 %
 51 Lahno, Kateryna         : 2532  149 153    16    40.6 %   2598   31.2 %
 52 Li, Shilong             : 2528  279 300     5    40.0 %   2598   40.0 %
 53 Ruck, Robert            : 2528  441 530     5    40.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 54 Inarkiev, Ernesto       : 2516  169 175    13    38.5 %   2598   30.8 %
 55 Lagno, Kateryna         : 2514  121 125    21    38.1 %   2598   38.1 %
 56 Laznicka, Viktor        : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 57 Gareyev, Timur          : 2509  415 497     4    37.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 58 Navara, David           : 2496  212 231     7    35.7 %   2598   42.9 %
 59 Zhao, Xue               : 2483   92 100    25    34.0 %   2598   52.0 %
 60 Zhao, Jun               : 2478  266 295     6    33.3 %   2598   33.3 %
 61 Stefanova, Antoaneta    : 2471  142 149    20    32.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 62 Koneru, H               : 2468  155 164    14    32.1 %   2598   35.7 %
 63 Kosintseva, Nadezhda    : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 64 Sebag, Marie            : 2451  362 453     5    30.0 %   2598   20.0 %
 65 Najer, Evgeniy          : 2451  139 354     5    30.0 %   2598   60.0 %
 66 Koneru, Humpy           : 2415  102 110    29    25.9 %   2598   37.9 %
 67 Kravtsiv, Martyn        : 2407  675 409     4    25.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 68 Dzagnidze, Nana         : 2380  139 155    18    22.2 %   2598   33.3 %
 69 Muzychuk, Mariya        : 2377  111 156    16    21.9 %   2598   43.8 %
 70 Ushenina, Anna          : 2366  198 225    12    20.8 %   2598   25.0 %
 71 Khotenashvili, Bela     : 2357  514 359     5    20.0 %   2598    0.0 %
 72 Cramling, Pia           : 2357  171 192    15    20.0 %   2598   26.7 %
 73 Danielian, Elina        : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
 74 Zhu, Chen               : 2260  318 262     4    12.5 %   2598   25.0 %
She got 30% of the points verses Caruna, and 43% against So. I think that is pretty good. Carlsen beat her brains in, but Carlsen beats everybody's brains in.
There are some problems with the data, for instance I notice that Koneru, Humpy is also listed as Koneru, H which isn't proper. But I think she does pretty well against strong opponents.

Now, there are others who do not study as hard as they should and yet they do well. That charge was made against Capablanca, but I do not know how true it was.
In comparison to Judit Polgal who spent 75% of her entire youngest life studying chess "The atmosphere of chess fanaticism created by Laszlo Polgar, the head of the family, and his older daughters, was the fertile soil on which the divine seed fell. The talented child had no doubt why she’d come into the world. From childhood onwards she studied with the best coaches, worked a lot and devoted herself entirely to her goal – which is why she became great."

These are some questions asked to Hou Yifan in an interview:
How do you study chess these days when you have also your lessons in the university?

Since I have my university and tournaments I’m looking for balance. I try to find time to prepare for my lessons and exams and I also need to find time to prepare for chess events. So before some key tournaments I try to find few days for preparation. My university is one of the best universities in China, so like any normal student I have to study a lot and I don’t have any advantages. I want to finish my education in time – after 4 years.

I’m not the kind of person, who forces myself to study chess every day. I follow my feelings. If I feel like I want to look at chess, so I will just study chess. If I want some rest I will rest.

People in China consider chess as a job or career. So it happens they ask me if chess is the only thing I do in my life and I answer – no, I’m also a student. I have my career of professional chess player right now but it doesn’t mean I will only play chess all my life.

Now you are 20 years old, so how can you imagine your life in 10 years from now?

Normally, I don’t imagine my life that far but I can say that in few years I will mainly focus on chess. Maybe I will finish my master degree. I hope I would be still playing chess in the next 10 years but if not I hope my activity would be connected with chess."
https://chesspro.ru/interview/hoy_yifan_interview_eng

When you compare two different persons at a given sport you also have to take into consideration the natural given born talent and how much time they dedicate to a particular sport.

When Reporter ask Dominican baseball players why they become so good at Baseball, they usually answer well in the USA most tennagers play different sports such as Basketball, American Football and Baseball at the same time, but they do NOT dedicate themselves to just one sport like we do in the Dom. Rep.
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1EK ... uFacl38SiA
Another thing that I would like to add is that GM Ding Liren when he was studying to became a lawyer, his rating froze at around 2765 for a long time, but ever since he graduated his rating went up up and away having a streak of 100 games without a lost and now he is rated 3rd after GM Caurana, therefore it is not the same to be a dedicated chess player and attending University at the same time like GM Hou Yifan who I believe once she graduate with her Master will reach very high:
https://2700chess.com/

https://en.chessbase.com/post/who-is-ding-liren

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