End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw

Jouni
Posts: 3281
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Jouni »

Heh heh. Obviously my tongue-in-cheek post has suddenly come reality! Lc0 is leading TCEC superfinal even with some 5-7 clear blunders :o :shock: .
I wonder if these tactical blunders can't be prevented with doing single CPU AB search by any decent engine?
Jouni
Nay Lin Tun
Posts: 708
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:34 am

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Nay Lin Tun »

Jouni wrote: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:43 pm Heh heh. Obviously my tongue-in-cheek post has suddenly come reality! Lc0 is leading TCEC superfinal even with some 5-7 clear blunders :o :shock: .
I wonder if these tactical blunders can't be prevented with doing single CPU AB search by any decent engine?
It is a probable result. Latest tests in Leela discord estimated that SF vs Leela were within 20 elo, with SF in favour. It is now very likely that Leela scale better with specific cput setting for Sufi.
So much tests has been done in Leela discord to get optimized setting for this Final although SF developers dont even test contempt/without contempt against Leela.

Looks like those optimizations helps for another +10 to +20 elo in VLTC setting.
jp
Posts: 1470
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:54 am

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by jp »

Nay Lin Tun wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:20 am So much tests has been done in Leela discord to get optimized setting for this Final although SF developers dont even test contempt/without contempt against Leela.
That on its own is stretching the meaning of "zero". (But it's already non-zero.)
Should just call it Lc1.
User avatar
CMCanavessi
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm
Location: Argentina

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by CMCanavessi »

Alexander Schmidt wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:11 pm
CMCanavessi wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:44 pm Leela about to go +3, SF fans already using excuses like "hardware disadvantage" or "no book"... gimme a break.
The same guys who made fun about the argument, Lc0 would be better without book?
You don't think that lc0 plays better from the start position than from a 8-16-move predefined opening? You should check current bonus matches at TCEC...
Follow my tournament and some Leela gauntlets live at http://twitch.tv/ccls
Nay Lin Tun
Posts: 708
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:34 am

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Nay Lin Tun »

End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
Leo
Posts: 1078
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:55 pm
Location: USA/Minnesota
Full name: Leo Anger

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Leo »

Nay Lin Tun wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:58 pm End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
Now it can play Brainfish. Its time to remove the Stockfish handicap. Lco has a learning file so why not let sf have a learning file.
Advanced Micro Devices fan.
User avatar
CMCanavessi
Posts: 1142
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:06 pm
Location: Argentina

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by CMCanavessi »

Lol "learning file"
Follow my tournament and some Leela gauntlets live at http://twitch.tv/ccls
sovaz1997
Posts: 261
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:37 am

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by sovaz1997 »

Leo wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:52 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:58 pm End of an era confirmed now!! 19-15 in favor of Leela (no opening book)
Now it can play Brainfish. Its time to remove the Stockfish handicap. Lco has a learning file so why not let sf have a learning file.
No comments...
Zevra 2 is my chess engine. Binary, source and description here: https://github.com/sovaz1997/Zevra2
Zevra v2.5 is last version of Zevra: https://github.com/sovaz1997/Zevra2/releases
Alexander Schmidt
Posts: 1202
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 2:49 pm

Re: End of Era is there: SF is finally beaten!

Post by Alexander Schmidt »

This forum became really funny lately :D