Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

Hardware 2950x, RTX 2080 ti
Stockfish 32 Thread, 4 Gb HT
Leela Chess Zero 4 threads, 9900000 NN CS.
6 man Tablebase
8 move opening book
TC= 5m/40
Ponder = On

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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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mwyoung wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:12 pm Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

Hardware 2950x, RTX 2080 ti
Stockfish 32 Thread, 4 Gb HT
Leela Chess Zero 4 threads, 9900000 NN CS.
6 man Tablebase
8 move opening book
TC= 5m/40
Ponder = On

Live Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJUN7ddYDm0
DESKTOP-CORSAIR, 5m/40+5m/40+5m/40 0


1 Stockfish 210619 64 POPCNT +7/=50/-7 50.00% 32.0/64 1024.00
2 Lc0 v0.21.2 +7/=50/-7 50.00% 32.0/64 1024.00
Ponder On Matches.jpg
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Good idea. Use ponder on.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Leo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:13 pm Good idea. Use ponder on.
Not so good idea to use 34 threads on a 32-thread system.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Nordlandia wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:16 pm
Leo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:13 pm Good idea. Use ponder on.
Not so good idea to use 34 threads on a 32-thread system.
Keep up to date. I am using 36 threads. And the ponder on matches keep coming. Because my judgement prevails...
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Maybe Brianfish with ponder on would mean victory over LCZ.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Leo wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:22 pm Maybe Brianfish with ponder on would mean victory over LCZ.
We would have to test this and see. And it very much depends on the nn of Lc0.

The latest nn testing now is not the best. And is losing to stockfish. But I have my best Lc0 nn. And that can be tested.

My only issue with Brainfish is that it is Stockfish. Only with a very good book. And I am not interested in opening book wars. I am interested in testing the best engines.
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mwyoung - Keep up to date. I am using 36 threads. And the ponder on matches keep coming. Because my judgement prevails...

It is quite remarkable that you don't listen to the regulars on this forum. Now you're handicapping your match even further, running 36 threaded matches on a 32 threaded cpu is utterly hopeless, just saying.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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Nordlandia wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:33 pm
mwyoung - Keep up to date. I am using 36 threads. And the ponder on matches keep coming. Because my judgement prevails...

It is quite remarkable that you don't listen to the regulars on this forum. Now you're handicapping your match even further, running 36 threaded matches on a 32 threaded cpu is utterly hopeless, just saying.
It’s a shame too because he has decent hardware. All for naught, as all experience users will understand his results can’t be trusted, hence are nothing more than a waste of resources and not worth the light of day. I had to place him on my ignore last, not wishing to add to his inefficiency by looking at his wasted results. Sad , but life goes on in the world of vanity of vanities.
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Re: Leela Chess Zero 42656 vs Stockfish 210619

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MikeB wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:51 pm
Nordlandia wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:33 pm
mwyoung - Keep up to date. I am using 36 threads. And the ponder on matches keep coming. Because my judgement prevails...

It is quite remarkable that you don't listen to the regulars on this forum. Now you're handicapping your match even further, running 36 threaded matches on a 32 threaded cpu is utterly hopeless, just saying.
It’s a shame too because he has decent hardware. All for naught, as all experience users will understand his results can’t be trusted, hence are nothing more than a waste of resources and not worth the light of day. I had to place him on my ignore last, not wishing to add to his inefficiency by looking at his wasted results. Sad , but life goes on in the world of vanity of vanities.
That is because you don' know what you are talking about. And anyone can see the performace of me system running my setting live.

And I posted why the setting work using Lc0.

So now one cares if you don't believe your lying eyes. That is your problem.

I would worry about your system. Even running my settings I run 2x faster.
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