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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:54 am when you are done, I would like the logs for study
My chess tree made from MillionBase 2.9 gives 42 positions for 1.a4 [wdl 18|10|14] 54.8%

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MOVE      +      =      -    PERC     TOTAL  ELO PERF SCORE ECO OPENING

e7e5     10      4      5 ( 63.2%)      19    0    0  0.00 
g8f6      5      2      1 ( 75.0%)       8    0    0  0.00 
d7d5      2      1      4 ( 35.7%)       7    0    0  0.00 
a7a5      1      1      1 ( 50.0%)       3    0    0  0.00 
b7b6      0      0      1 (  0.0%)       1    0    0  0.00 
g7g6      0      0      1 (  0.0%)       1    0    0  0.00 
c7c5      0      0      1 (  0.0%)       1    0    0  0.00 
a7a6      0      1      0 ( 50.0%)       1    0    0  0.00 
h7h6      0      1      0 ( 50.0%)       1    0    0  0.00 

Tot      18     10     14 ( 54.8%)      42    0   29  0.00 
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:51 am I suspect that an analysis of the plans will show some great tactical move that has a foil.

This analysis is surprisingly pivotal for me.
For two decades, I have known that the top engines get it wrong a lot
But it was easy to get to the right answer, just double the time and run again.
Still wrong? double time, run again. Rinse, repeat to deep enough and the engines would find it.
Usually, before 45 plies or so, the engine would find the answer and I would get the plan I was looking for.
Guided by statistics, I knew that the engines were wrong, and I knew how to delve ahead.

But maybe now, after all these years, it is not so simple.
I have solved at least a million positions where the engine had it wrong and a deeper search would find it.

But now, maybe the engines are so much smarter that it is not so simple anymore.
I'm still wondering about what you mean by "get it wrong" and "find the answer." After 1. a4, probably every move (except 1...b5, perhaps) likely draws with perfect play. I don't understand what you hope to determine from any number of human games that opened 1. a4. Probably every one of those games that was decided was decided by multiple inaccuracies or outright errors.

It sounds like you believe that 1. a4 e5 loses with perfect play. I guess I simply doubt this.

BTW, here's Cfish-dev after an overnight run:

-0.16 1... Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. e3 b6 4. a5 bxa5 5. Bd2 Nc6 6. Nf3 Rb8 7. Bd3 Rxb2 8. O-O d5 9. c4 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Rb8 11. Bxa5 Nxa5 12. Rxa5 Bb4 13. Rxa7 O-O 14. Ne5 c5 15. dxc5 Qxd1 16. Rxd1 Bxc5 17. Ra5 Bb6 18. Rb5 Ba6 19. Rb4 Bc7 20. Rxb8 Rxb8 21. Bxa6 Bxe5 22. Nd2 Nd5 23. Rc1 Bc3 24. Ne4 Bb4 25. Rc8+ Rxc8 26. Bxc8 Nc3 27. Nxc3 Bxc3 (depth 51, 8:43:45)

What depth did you reach with your Stockfish search?
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:51 am I suspect that an analysis of the plans will show some great tactical move that has a foil.

This analysis is surprisingly pivotal for me.
For two decades, I have known that the top engines get it wrong a lot
But it was easy to get to the right answer, just double the time and run again.
Still wrong? double time, run again. Rinse, repeat to deep enough and the engines would find it.
Usually, before 45 plies or so, the engine would find the answer and I would get the plan I was looking for.
Guided by statistics, I knew that the engines were wrong, and I knew how to delve ahead.

But maybe now, after all these years, it is not so simple.
I have solved at least a million positions where the engine had it wrong and a deeper search would find it.

But now, maybe the engines are so much smarter that it is not so simple anymore.
I'm unsure if search helps much in this kind of positions. Maybe it's sufficient asking strong policy networks only?

Nodes = 1, without search.

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pos	320x24.T13-swa-273	T40.T8.610
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01 	e5   (55.3)		Nf6  (50.8)
02	g3   (56.9)		g3   (57.5)
03	Bd3  (63.6)		Bd3  (61.9)
04	Nf6  (47.8)		Nc6  (47.8)
05	g3   (54.9)		g3   (53.6)
06 	c4   (54.9)		c4   (53.2)
07	e4   (57.8)		e4   (55.9)
08	d5   (47.9)		d5   (47.9)
09	h4   (62.9)		h4   (64.4)
10	d5   (64.6)		d5   (65.6)
11	Nc3  (62.0)		Nc3  (63.5)
12	exd5 (57.5)		Nd2  (55.9)
13	Nc3  (57.0)		Nc3  (56.3)
14	e4   (56.3)		e4   (56.4)
15	dxc5 (66.7)		dxc5 (66.8)
16	d5   (44.2)		d5   (44.9)
17	d5   (47.1)		d5   (44.7)
18	Nf3  (51.0)		Nf3  (49.2)
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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zullil wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:47 am
Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:51 am I suspect that an analysis of the plans will show some great tactical move that has a foil.

This analysis is surprisingly pivotal for me.
For two decades, I have known that the top engines get it wrong a lot
But it was easy to get to the right answer, just double the time and run again.
Still wrong? double time, run again. Rinse, repeat to deep enough and the engines would find it.
Usually, before 45 plies or so, the engine would find the answer and I would get the plan I was looking for.
Guided by statistics, I knew that the engines were wrong, and I knew how to delve ahead.

But maybe now, after all these years, it is not so simple.
I have solved at least a million positions where the engine had it wrong and a deeper search would find it.

But now, maybe the engines are so much smarter that it is not so simple anymore.
I'm still wondering about what you mean by "get it wrong" and "find the answer." After 1. a4, probably every move (except 1...b5, perhaps) likely draws with perfect play. I don't understand what you hope to determine from any number of human games that opened 1. a4. Probably every one of those games that was decided was decided by multiple inaccuracies or outright errors.

It sounds like you believe that 1. a4 e5 loses with perfect play. I guess I simply doubt this.

BTW, here's Cfish-dev after an overnight run:

-0.16 1... Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. e3 b6 4. a5 bxa5 5. Bd2 Nc6 6. Nf3 Rb8 7. Bd3 Rxb2 8. O-O d5 9. c4 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Rb8 11. Bxa5 Nxa5 12. Rxa5 Bb4 13. Rxa7 O-O 14. Ne5 c5 15. dxc5 Qxd1 16. Rxd1 Bxc5 17. Ra5 Bb6 18. Rb5 Ba6 19. Rb4 Bc7 20. Rxb8 Rxb8 21. Bxa6 Bxe5 22. Nd2 Nd5 23. Rc1 Bc3 24. Ne4 Bb4 25. Rc8+ Rxc8 26. Bxc8 Nc3 27. Nxc3 Bxc3 (depth 51, 8:43:45)

What depth did you reach with your Stockfish search?
I meant "1. a4 e5 loses for White."
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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zullil wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:47 am
I'm still wondering about what you mean by "get it wrong" and "find the answer." After 1. a4, probably every move (except 1...b5, perhaps) likely draws with perfect play. I don't understand what you hope to determine from any number of human games that opened 1. a4. Probably every one of those games that was decided was decided by multiple inaccuracies or outright errors.

It sounds like you believe that 1. a4 e5 loses with perfect play. I guess I simply doubt this.
No, I have a statistical lead for black of one pawn after 1.a4 e5, based off of w/l/d statistics
BTW, here's Cfish-dev after an overnight run:

-0.16 1... Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. e3 b6 4. a5 bxa5 5. Bd2 Nc6 6. Nf3 Rb8 7. Bd3 Rxb2 8. O-O d5 9. c4 dxc4 10. Bxc4 Rb8 11. Bxa5 Nxa5 12. Rxa5 Bb4 13. Rxa7 O-O 14. Ne5 c5 15. dxc5 Qxd1 16. Rxd1 Bxc5 17. Ra5 Bb6 18. Rb5 Ba6 19. Rb4 Bc7 20. Rxb8 Rxb8 21. Bxa6 Bxe5 22. Nd2 Nd5 23. Rc1 Bc3 24. Ne4 Bb4 25. Rc8+ Rxc8 26. Bxc8 Nc3 27. Nxc3 Bxc3 (depth 51, 8:43:45)

What depth did you reach with your Stockfish search?
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Max wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:39 pm
Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:51 am I suspect that an analysis of the plans will show some great tactical move that has a foil.

This analysis is surprisingly pivotal for me.
For two decades, I have known that the top engines get it wrong a lot
But it was easy to get to the right answer, just double the time and run again.
Still wrong? double time, run again. Rinse, repeat to deep enough and the engines would find it.
Usually, before 45 plies or so, the engine would find the answer and I would get the plan I was looking for.
Guided by statistics, I knew that the engines were wrong, and I knew how to delve ahead.

But maybe now, after all these years, it is not so simple.
I have solved at least a million positions where the engine had it wrong and a deeper search would find it.

But now, maybe the engines are so much smarter that it is not so simple anymore.
I'm unsure if search helps much in this kind of positions. Maybe it's sufficient asking strong policy networks only?

Nodes = 1, without search.

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pos	320x24.T13-swa-273	T40.T8.610
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01 	e5   (55.3)		Nf6  (50.8)
02	g3   (56.9)		g3   (57.5)
03	Bd3  (63.6)		Bd3  (61.9)
04	Nf6  (47.8)		Nc6  (47.8)
05	g3   (54.9)		g3   (53.6)
06 	c4   (54.9)		c4   (53.2)
07	e4   (57.8)		e4   (55.9)
08	d5   (47.9)		d5   (47.9)
09	h4   (62.9)		h4   (64.4)
10	d5   (64.6)		d5   (65.6)
11	Nc3  (62.0)		Nc3  (63.5)
12	exd5 (57.5)		Nd2  (55.9)
13	Nc3  (57.0)		Nc3  (56.3)
14	e4   (56.3)		e4   (56.4)
15	dxc5 (66.7)		dxc5 (66.8)
16	d5   (44.2)		d5   (44.9)
17	d5   (47.1)		d5   (44.7)
18	Nf3  (51.0)		Nf3  (49.2)
Network 320x24.T13-swa-273000 was posted in the Lc0 group at discord.com
what does the number in parenthesis mean? What does the first number (without parenthesis mean?)
I guess the first is the ranking
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:01 pm
Max wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:39 pm
Dann Corbit wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 4:51 am I suspect that an analysis of the plans will show some great tactical move that has a foil.

This analysis is surprisingly pivotal for me.
For two decades, I have known that the top engines get it wrong a lot
But it was easy to get to the right answer, just double the time and run again.
Still wrong? double time, run again. Rinse, repeat to deep enough and the engines would find it.
Usually, before 45 plies or so, the engine would find the answer and I would get the plan I was looking for.
Guided by statistics, I knew that the engines were wrong, and I knew how to delve ahead.

But maybe now, after all these years, it is not so simple.
I have solved at least a million positions where the engine had it wrong and a deeper search would find it.

But now, maybe the engines are so much smarter that it is not so simple anymore.
I'm unsure if search helps much in this kind of positions. Maybe it's sufficient asking strong policy networks only?

Nodes = 1, without search.

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pos	320x24.T13-swa-273	T40.T8.610
------------------------------------------
01 	e5   (55.3)		Nf6  (50.8)
02	g3   (56.9)		g3   (57.5)
03	Bd3  (63.6)		Bd3  (61.9)
04	Nf6  (47.8)		Nc6  (47.8)
05	g3   (54.9)		g3   (53.6)
06 	c4   (54.9)		c4   (53.2)
07	e4   (57.8)		e4   (55.9)
08	d5   (47.9)		d5   (47.9)
09	h4   (62.9)		h4   (64.4)
10	d5   (64.6)		d5   (65.6)
11	Nc3  (62.0)		Nc3  (63.5)
12	exd5 (57.5)		Nd2  (55.9)
13	Nc3  (57.0)		Nc3  (56.3)
14	e4   (56.3)		e4   (56.4)
15	dxc5 (66.7)		dxc5 (66.8)
16	d5   (44.2)		d5   (44.9)
17	d5   (47.1)		d5   (44.7)
18	Nf3  (51.0)		Nf3  (49.2)
Network 320x24.T13-swa-273000 was posted in the Lc0 group at discord.com
what does the number in parenthesis mean? What does the first number (without parenthesis mean?)
I guess the first is the ranking
I assume that for each of your 18 positions, he's given you best move and evaluation (= 100 * probability of win??) from two different nets.
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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zullil wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:06 pmI assume that for each of your 18 positions, he's given you best move and evaluation (= 100 * probability of win??) from two different nets.
Correct :!:
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Re: Need Lc0 help

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Here is result of first 9 positions

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position fen rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/P7/8/1PPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1
info string b7b5  (234 ) N:    6847 (+ 0) (P:  1.40%) (Q: -0.56104) (U: 0.61149) (Q+U:  0.05045) (V:  -.----) 
info string g7g5  (378 ) N:    8674 (+ 0) (P:  1.46%) (Q: -0.45504) (U: 0.50548) (Q+U:  0.05044) (V:  -.----) 
info string f7f6  (346 ) N:   16136 (+ 0) (P:  1.96%) (Q: -0.31394) (U: 0.36440) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string g8h6  (161 ) N:   21457 (+ 0) (P:  2.18%) (Q: -0.25424) (U: 0.30470) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string b8a6  (34  ) N:   24306 (+ 0) (P:  2.05%) (Q: -0.20198) (U: 0.25244) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h5  (403 ) N:   26064 (+ 0) (P:  2.15%) (Q: -0.19601) (U: 0.24646) (Q+U:  0.05045) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a5  (207 ) N:   37727 (+ 0) (P:  2.59%) (Q: -0.15505) (U: 0.20551) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string f7f5  (351 ) N:   52564 (+ 0) (P:  2.64%) (Q: -0.09974) (U: 0.15020) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string b7b6  (230 ) N:   69919 (+ 0) (P:  2.80%) (Q: -0.06945) (U: 0.11991) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h6  (400 ) N:   75524 (+ 0) (P:  2.79%) (Q: -0.06016) (U: 0.11062) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d6  (288 ) N:   79348 (+ 0) (P:  3.04%) (Q: -0.06419) (U: 0.11464) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string g7g6  (374 ) N:  101168 (+ 0) (P:  3.05%) (Q: -0.03980) (U: 0.09026) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c6  (259 ) N:  103117 (+ 0) (P:  2.88%) (Q: -0.03317) (U: 0.08363) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a6  (204 ) N:  139029 (+ 0) (P:  3.12%) (Q: -0.01663) (U: 0.06709) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string b8c6  (36  ) N:  158649 (+ 0) (P:  3.51%) (Q: -0.01587) (U: 0.06632) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string e7e6  (317 ) N:  298971 (+ 0) (P:  4.38%) (Q:  0.00658) (U: 0.04388) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c5  (264 ) N:  579401 (+ 2) (P: 11.80%) (Q: -0.01053) (U: 0.06099) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d5  (293 ) N: 5260372 (+ 0) (P: 18.07%) (Q:  0.04017) (U: 0.01028) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
info string e7e5  (322 ) N: 6660675 (+ 0) (P: 12.62%) (Q:  0.04438) (U: 0.00567) (Q+U:  0.05005) (V:  -.----) 
info string g8f6  (159 ) N: 181854153 (+286) (P: 15.51%) (Q:  0.05020) (U: 0.00026) (Q+U:  0.05046) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove g8f6 ponder d2d4
position fen rnbqkbnr/1pp1pppp/p7/3p4/3P4/5N2/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1
info string c1h6  (69  ) N:    1324 (+ 0) (P:  0.84%) (Q: -0.89024) (U: 1.05216) (Q+U:  0.16192) (V:  -.----) 
info string e1d2  (105 ) N:    1833 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.45237) (U: 0.61302) (Q+U:  0.16065) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g4  (378 ) N:    2935 (+ 0) (P:  1.08%) (Q: -0.44944) (U: 0.60988) (Q+U:  0.16045) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e4  (322 ) N:    4329 (+ 0) (P:  1.13%) (Q: -0.27204) (U: 0.43197) (Q+U:  0.15993) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3h4  (586 ) N:    5926 (+ 0) (P:  1.29%) (Q: -0.20298) (U: 0.36260) (Q+U:  0.15962) (V:  -.----) 
info string h1g1  (177 ) N:    6163 (+ 0) (P:  1.19%) (Q: -0.16195) (U: 0.32132) (Q+U:  0.15937) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g1  (568 ) N:    6440 (+ 0) (P:  1.20%) (Q: -0.15090) (U: 0.31026) (Q+U:  0.15936) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3d2  (570 ) N:    9066 (+ 0) (P:  1.29%) (Q: -0.07798) (U: 0.23703) (Q+U:  0.15904) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g5  (590 ) N:    9146 (+ 0) (P:  1.60%) (Q: -0.13144) (U: 0.29070) (Q+U:  0.15926) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1d2  (81  ) N:   11645 (+ 0) (P:  1.45%) (Q: -0.04823) (U: 0.20716) (Q+U:  0.15893) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1a3  (34  ) N:   13173 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q: -0.04876) (U: 0.20770) (Q+U:  0.15894) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:   13551 (+ 0) (P:  1.47%) (Q: -0.02178) (U: 0.18060) (Q+U:  0.15881) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h4  (403 ) N:   19273 (+ 0) (P:  1.74%) (Q:  0.00896) (U: 0.14972) (Q+U:  0.15868) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a4  (207 ) N:   23177 (+ 0) (P:  2.13%) (Q:  0.00631) (U: 0.15238) (Q+U:  0.15869) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1d2  (57  ) N:   24096 (+ 0) (P:  1.95%) (Q:  0.02397) (U: 0.13463) (Q+U:  0.15860) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1e3  (63  ) N:   24438 (+ 0) (P:  1.92%) (Q:  0.02813) (U: 0.13047) (Q+U:  0.15860) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1d3  (86  ) N:   24862 (+ 0) (P:  1.85%) (Q:  0.03529) (U: 0.12325) (Q+U:  0.15854) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3e5  (588 ) N:   25976 (+ 0) (P:  2.00%) (Q:  0.03053) (U: 0.12806) (Q+U:  0.15859) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1c3  (36  ) N:   27671 (+ 0) (P:  1.93%) (Q:  0.04295) (U: 0.11559) (Q+U:  0.15854) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b3  (230 ) N:   30298 (+ 0) (P:  1.91%) (Q:  0.05405) (U: 0.10444) (Q+U:  0.15849) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h3  (400 ) N:   37295 (+ 0) (P:  2.32%) (Q:  0.05533) (U: 0.10315) (Q+U:  0.15848) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a3  (204 ) N:   49642 (+ 0) (P:  2.47%) (Q:  0.07579) (U: 0.08260) (Q+U:  0.15839) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e3  (317 ) N:   56762 (+ 0) (P:  2.53%) (Q:  0.08428) (U: 0.07407) (Q+U:  0.15835) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c3  (259 ) N:   86187 (+ 0) (P:  3.03%) (Q:  0.10001) (U: 0.05828) (Q+U:  0.15828) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1d2  (33  ) N:  107173 (+ 0) (P:  3.27%) (Q:  0.10753) (U: 0.05068) (Q+U:  0.15822) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1g5  (67  ) N:  267250 (+ 0) (P:  8.20%) (Q:  0.10727) (U: 0.05097) (Q+U:  0.15824) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1f4  (65  ) N:  675374 (+ 0) (P: 17.36%) (Q:  0.11393) (U: 0.04268) (Q+U:  0.15661) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c4  (264 ) N: 1022814 (+ 0) (P: 20.36%) (Q:  0.12161) (U: 0.03305) (Q+U:  0.15467) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g3  (374 ) N: 70369086 (+262) (P: 10.15%) (Q:  0.15797) (U: 0.00024) (Q+U:  0.15821) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove g2g3 ponder c7c6
position fen rnbqkbnr/1ppp1ppp/p3p3/8/3PP3/8/PPP2PPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
info string c1h6  (69  ) N:     740 (+ 0) (P:  0.56%) (Q: -0.88335) (U: 1.11123) (Q+U:  0.22788) (V:  -.----) 
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info string e1d2  (105 ) N:    1824 (+ 0) (P:  0.82%) (Q: -0.43485) (U: 0.66315) (Q+U:  0.22830) (V:  -.----) 
info string e1e2  (106 ) N:    2508 (+ 0) (P:  0.88%) (Q: -0.29422) (U: 0.52248) (Q+U:  0.22826) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:    3256 (+ 0) (P:  1.02%) (Q: -0.23839) (U: 0.46639) (Q+U:  0.22800) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1h5  (93  ) N:    6438 (+ 0) (P:  1.24%) (Q: -0.05828) (U: 0.28633) (Q+U:  0.22804) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1g4  (91  ) N:    7225 (+ 0) (P:  1.31%) (Q: -0.04114) (U: 0.26915) (Q+U:  0.22801) (V:  -.----) 
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info string d1d3  (86  ) N:   20815 (+ 0) (P:  1.86%) (Q:  0.09556) (U: 0.13231) (Q+U:  0.22787) (V:  -.----) 
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info string c1f4  (65  ) N:   26789 (+ 0) (P:  1.95%) (Q:  0.12011) (U: 0.10766) (Q+U:  0.22778) (V:  -.----) 
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info string f1e2  (130 ) N:   29287 (+ 0) (P:  1.93%) (Q:  0.13023) (U: 0.09759) (Q+U:  0.22782) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h4  (403 ) N:   39888 (+ 0) (P:  2.23%) (Q:  0.14507) (U: 0.08274) (Q+U:  0.22781) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c3  (259 ) N:   46943 (+ 0) (P:  2.36%) (Q:  0.15337) (U: 0.07443) (Q+U:  0.22780) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a3  (204 ) N:   48323 (+ 0) (P:  2.42%) (Q:  0.15364) (U: 0.07415) (Q+U:  0.22779) (V:  -.----) 
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info string c1e3  (63  ) N:  141473 (+ 0) (P:  3.45%) (Q:  0.19162) (U: 0.03611) (Q+U:  0.22772) (V:  -.----) 
info string f1d3  (134 ) N: 59489649 (+266) (P: 34.90%) (Q:  0.22690) (U: 0.00087) (Q+U:  0.22777) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove f1d3 ponder d7d5
position fen rnbqkbnr/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/2P5/3P4/PP2PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1
info string d8g5  (91  ) N:    1471 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.94832) (U: 0.94171) (Q+U: -0.00661) (V:  -.----) 
info string f8a3  (143 ) N:    2252 (+ 0) (P:  1.09%) (Q: -0.90305) (U: 0.89533) (Q+U: -0.00771) (V:  -.----) 
info string e8e7  (106 ) N:    3891 (+ 0) (P:  1.00%) (Q: -0.49205) (U: 0.47579) (Q+U: -0.01626) (V:  -.----) 
info string e5e4  (796 ) N:    4849 (+ 0) (P:  1.18%) (Q: -0.46624) (U: 0.44944) (Q+U: -0.01680) (V:  -.----) 
info string b7b5  (234 ) N:    6194 (+ 0) (P:  1.10%) (Q: -0.34609) (U: 0.32675) (Q+U: -0.01934) (V:  -.----) 
info string g7g5  (378 ) N:    8630 (+ 0) (P:  1.33%) (Q: -0.30380) (U: 0.28354) (Q+U: -0.02026) (V:  -.----) 
info string d8h4  (93  ) N:   10316 (+ 0) (P:  1.11%) (Q: -0.22035) (U: 0.19825) (Q+U: -0.02210) (V:  -.----) 
info string g8h6  (161 ) N:   10733 (+ 0) (P:  1.54%) (Q: -0.28533) (U: 0.26464) (Q+U: -0.02069) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h5  (403 ) N:   14383 (+ 0) (P:  1.59%) (Q: -0.22588) (U: 0.20395) (Q+U: -0.02193) (V:  -.----) 
info string d8f6  (88  ) N:   14537 (+ 0) (P:  1.55%) (Q: -0.21889) (U: 0.19680) (Q+U: -0.02209) (V:  -.----) 
info string b7b6  (230 ) N:   16928 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q: -0.20264) (U: 0.18019) (Q+U: -0.02245) (V:  -.----) 
info string d8e7  (82  ) N:   17825 (+ 0) (P:  1.68%) (Q: -0.19607) (U: 0.17349) (Q+U: -0.02258) (V:  -.----) 
info string b8a6  (34  ) N:   21080 (+ 0) (P:  1.71%) (Q: -0.17299) (U: 0.14991) (Q+U: -0.02308) (V:  -.----) 
info string f7f6  (346 ) N:   24360 (+ 0) (P:  1.68%) (Q: -0.15097) (U: 0.12741) (Q+U: -0.02355) (V:  -.----) 
info string f8d6  (134 ) N:   35198 (+ 0) (P:  2.30%) (Q: -0.14423) (U: 0.12053) (Q+U: -0.02370) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a6  (204 ) N:   44516 (+ 0) (P:  2.05%) (Q: -0.10922) (U: 0.08478) (Q+U: -0.02445) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c5  (264 ) N:   50900 (+ 0) (P:  1.92%) (Q: -0.09454) (U: 0.06977) (Q+U: -0.02476) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a5  (207 ) N:   56443 (+ 0) (P:  2.09%) (Q: -0.09310) (U: 0.06831) (Q+U: -0.02480) (V:  -.----) 
info string f8c5  (139 ) N:   59885 (+ 0) (P:  2.28%) (Q: -0.09513) (U: 0.07038) (Q+U: -0.02475) (V:  -.----) 
info string f7f5  (351 ) N:   60773 (+ 0) (P:  2.20%) (Q: -0.09174) (U: 0.06692) (Q+U: -0.02482) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c6  (259 ) N:   61376 (+ 0) (P:  2.36%) (Q: -0.09561) (U: 0.07087) (Q+U: -0.02474) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h6  (400 ) N:   65097 (+ 0) (P:  2.20%) (Q: -0.08739) (U: 0.06247) (Q+U: -0.02492) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d6  (288 ) N:   76317 (+ 0) (P:  2.33%) (Q: -0.08145) (U: 0.05640) (Q+U: -0.02504) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d5  (293 ) N:   87574 (+ 0) (P:  2.90%) (Q: -0.08600) (U: 0.06105) (Q+U: -0.02495) (V:  -.----) 
info string f8e7  (130 ) N:   97200 (+ 0) (P:  2.75%) (Q: -0.07727) (U: 0.05214) (Q+U: -0.02513) (V:  -.----) 
info string g7g6  (374 ) N:  148028 (+ 0) (P:  3.35%) (Q: -0.06713) (U: 0.04178) (Q+U: -0.02535) (V:  -.----) 
info string g8e7  (154 ) N: 3961680 (+ 0) (P:  7.09%) (Q: -0.03600) (U: 0.00330) (Q+U: -0.03270) (V:  -.----) 
info string f8b4  (141 ) N: 4600120 (+ 1) (P: 30.08%) (Q: -0.04033) (U: 0.01206) (Q+U: -0.02827) (V:  -.----) 
info string b8c6  (36  ) N: 6484190 (+ 0) (P:  6.72%) (Q: -0.03547) (U: 0.00191) (Q+U: -0.03356) (V:  -.----) 
info string g8f6  (159 ) N: 70877714 (+285) (P:  8.40%) (Q: -0.02567) (U: 0.00022) (Q+U: -0.02545) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove g8f6 ponder g1f3
position fen rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/4pn2/8/2P5/5N2/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1
info string c4c5  (727 ) N:    3370 (+ 0) (P:  0.91%) (Q: -0.49368) (U: 0.66197) (Q+U:  0.16829) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:    4581 (+ 0) (P:  1.26%) (Q: -0.50482) (U: 0.67499) (Q+U:  0.17017) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e4  (322 ) N:    6288 (+ 0) (P:  1.31%) (Q: -0.36406) (U: 0.51056) (Q+U:  0.14650) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3d4  (582 ) N:   10921 (+ 0) (P:  1.46%) (Q: -0.20847) (U: 0.32874) (Q+U:  0.12027) (V:  -.----) 
info string h1g1  (177 ) N:   11541 (+ 0) (P:  1.38%) (Q: -0.17862) (U: 0.29386) (Q+U:  0.11524) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g1  (568 ) N:   12704 (+ 0) (P:  1.58%) (Q: -0.18873) (U: 0.30569) (Q+U:  0.11696) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g4  (378 ) N:   13829 (+ 0) (P:  1.63%) (Q: -0.17521) (U: 0.28991) (Q+U:  0.11470) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g5  (590 ) N:   14026 (+ 0) (P:  1.75%) (Q: -0.18877) (U: 0.30575) (Q+U:  0.11698) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3h4  (586 ) N:   14643 (+ 0) (P:  1.86%) (Q: -0.19428) (U: 0.31219) (Q+U:  0.11791) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1b3  (84  ) N:   23504 (+ 0) (P:  1.92%) (Q: -0.09900) (U: 0.20080) (Q+U:  0.10180) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1a3  (34  ) N:   31289 (+ 0) (P:  2.15%) (Q: -0.07180) (U: 0.16905) (Q+U:  0.09725) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3e5  (588 ) N:   32609 (+ 0) (P:  2.19%) (Q: -0.06841) (U: 0.16508) (Q+U:  0.09667) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1a4  (89  ) N:   33723 (+ 0) (P:  1.99%) (Q: -0.05124) (U: 0.14501) (Q+U:  0.09377) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h4  (403 ) N:   36938 (+ 0) (P:  2.34%) (Q: -0.06055) (U: 0.15589) (Q+U:  0.09534) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a4  (207 ) N:   43305 (+ 0) (P:  2.34%) (Q: -0.04094) (U: 0.13297) (Q+U:  0.09203) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1c2  (80  ) N:   97896 (+ 0) (P:  2.71%) (Q:  0.01459) (U: 0.06805) (Q+U:  0.08264) (V:  -.----) 
info string d2d3  (288 ) N:  120729 (+ 0) (P:  3.12%) (Q:  0.01840) (U: 0.06359) (Q+U:  0.08200) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h3  (400 ) N:  121874 (+ 0) (P:  3.05%) (Q:  0.02024) (U: 0.06146) (Q+U:  0.08169) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a3  (204 ) N:  123179 (+ 0) (P:  2.98%) (Q:  0.02190) (U: 0.05951) (Q+U:  0.08141) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b3  (230 ) N:  269009 (+ 0) (P:  3.48%) (Q:  0.04562) (U: 0.03176) (Q+U:  0.07738) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e3  (317 ) N:  387181 (+ 0) (P:  3.92%) (Q:  0.05146) (U: 0.02489) (Q+U:  0.07636) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1c3  (36  ) N: 10463854 (+ 0) (P: 13.12%) (Q:  0.07011) (U: 0.00308) (Q+U:  0.07319) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g3  (374 ) N: 51088557 (+ 0) (P: 23.41%) (Q:  0.07184) (U: 0.00113) (Q+U:  0.07296) (V:  -.----) 
info string d2d4  (293 ) N: 77277154 (+268) (P: 18.13%) (Q:  0.07482) (U: 0.00058) (Q+U:  0.07539) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove d2d4 ponder d7d5
position fen rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/8/5N2/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1
info string g2g4  (378 ) N:    5757 (+ 0) (P:  1.30%) (Q: -0.33948) (U: 0.43639) (Q+U:  0.09691) (V:  -.----) 
info string h1g1  (177 ) N:    6664 (+ 0) (P:  1.45%) (Q: -0.32402) (U: 0.42015) (Q+U:  0.09613) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e4  (322 ) N:    6711 (+ 0) (P:  1.39%) (Q: -0.30578) (U: 0.40106) (Q+U:  0.09528) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3d4  (582 ) N:    8045 (+ 0) (P:  1.66%) (Q: -0.30311) (U: 0.39825) (Q+U:  0.09514) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3h4  (586 ) N:    9664 (+ 0) (P:  1.92%) (Q: -0.28889) (U: 0.38341) (Q+U:  0.09452) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g1  (568 ) N:   10181 (+ 0) (P:  1.64%) (Q: -0.22013) (U: 0.31137) (Q+U:  0.09125) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g5  (590 ) N:   10878 (+ 0) (P:  1.69%) (Q: -0.20997) (U: 0.30078) (Q+U:  0.09080) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3e5  (588 ) N:   17191 (+ 0) (P:  1.77%) (Q: -0.11254) (U: 0.19874) (Q+U:  0.08620) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1a3  (34  ) N:   22805 (+ 0) (P:  1.98%) (Q: -0.08305) (U: 0.16785) (Q+U:  0.08481) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h4  (403 ) N:   23974 (+ 0) (P:  2.41%) (Q: -0.10807) (U: 0.19405) (Q+U:  0.08599) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:   34179 (+ 0) (P:  2.26%) (Q: -0.04466) (U: 0.12766) (Q+U:  0.08300) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a4  (207 ) N:   41802 (+ 0) (P:  2.57%) (Q: -0.03644) (U: 0.11905) (Q+U:  0.08261) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1c3  (36  ) N:   66518 (+ 0) (P:  2.88%) (Q: -0.00278) (U: 0.08380) (Q+U:  0.08102) (V:  -.----) 
info string d2d3  (288 ) N:   66877 (+ 0) (P:  3.01%) (Q: -0.00584) (U: 0.08701) (Q+U:  0.08116) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a3  (204 ) N:   75267 (+ 0) (P:  3.05%) (Q:  0.00237) (U: 0.07841) (Q+U:  0.08077) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h3  (400 ) N:   84249 (+ 0) (P:  3.27%) (Q:  0.00567) (U: 0.07495) (Q+U:  0.08061) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b3  (230 ) N:  115472 (+ 0) (P:  3.40%) (Q:  0.02295) (U: 0.05685) (Q+U:  0.07981) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e3  (317 ) N:  238539 (+ 0) (P:  4.11%) (Q:  0.04542) (U: 0.03333) (Q+U:  0.07876) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c3  (259 ) N:  244126 (+ 0) (P:  3.94%) (Q:  0.04746) (U: 0.03120) (Q+U:  0.07866) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g3  (374 ) N: 3983405 (+ 0) (P: 15.42%) (Q:  0.06996) (U: 0.00748) (Q+U:  0.07744) (V:  -.----) 
info string d2d4  (293 ) N: 12881580 (+ 0) (P: 17.27%) (Q:  0.07384) (U: 0.00259) (Q+U:  0.07643) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c4  (264 ) N: 75961018 (+241) (P: 21.61%) (Q:  0.07702) (U: 0.00055) (Q+U:  0.07757) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove c2c4 ponder e7e6
position fen rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/4pn2/8/2P5/2N5/PP1PPPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
info string c3e4  (487 ) N:    1493 (+ 0) (P:  0.97%) (Q: -0.90999) (U: 0.99848) (Q+U:  0.08849) (V:  -.----) 
info string c3d5  (491 ) N:    1653 (+ 0) (P:  1.09%) (Q: -0.91831) (U: 1.00673) (Q+U:  0.08841) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:    2723 (+ 0) (P:  1.12%) (Q: -0.54482) (U: 0.63100) (Q+U:  0.08618) (V:  -.----) 
info string c4c5  (727 ) N:    3019 (+ 0) (P:  1.05%) (Q: -0.44654) (U: 0.53223) (Q+U:  0.08569) (V:  -.----) 
info string f2f3  (346 ) N:    7445 (+ 0) (P:  1.48%) (Q: -0.21955) (U: 0.30353) (Q+U:  0.08397) (V:  -.----) 
info string f2f4  (351 ) N:    7741 (+ 0) (P:  1.67%) (Q: -0.24530) (U: 0.32940) (Q+U:  0.08411) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g4  (378 ) N:    8264 (+ 0) (P:  1.54%) (Q: -0.20099) (U: 0.28482) (Q+U:  0.08383) (V:  -.----) 
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info string h2h4  (403 ) N:   16798 (+ 0) (P:  1.99%) (Q: -0.09821) (U: 0.18135) (Q+U:  0.08314) (V:  -.----) 
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info string d2d3  (288 ) N:   27258 (+ 0) (P:  2.26%) (Q: -0.04421) (U: 0.12697) (Q+U:  0.08276) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b3  (230 ) N:   34278 (+ 0) (P:  2.24%) (Q: -0.01727) (U: 0.09984) (Q+U:  0.08257) (V:  -.----) 
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info string h2h3  (400 ) N:   58946 (+ 0) (P:  2.51%) (Q:  0.01725) (U: 0.06509) (Q+U:  0.08234) (V:  -.----) 
info string a2a3  (204 ) N:   62393 (+ 0) (P:  2.68%) (Q:  0.01658) (U: 0.06576) (Q+U:  0.08234) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e3  (317 ) N:  185773 (+ 0) (P:  3.61%) (Q:  0.05232) (U: 0.02977) (Q+U:  0.08209) (V:  -.----) 
info string d2d4  (293 ) N: 1731180 (+ 0) (P:  8.51%) (Q:  0.07418) (U: 0.00752) (Q+U:  0.08170) (V:  -.----) 
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bestmove e2e4 ponder d7d5
position fen rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/3P4/2P5/PP2PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - 0 1
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info string e7e5  (322 ) N:    7211 (+ 0) (P:  1.90%) (Q: -0.46224) (U: 0.43889) (Q+U: -0.02335) (V:  -.----) 
info string f6h5  (586 ) N:    7880 (+ 0) (P:  1.85%) (Q: -0.41620) (U: 0.39194) (Q+U: -0.02426) (V:  -.----) 
info string h8g8  (177 ) N:    8173 (+ 0) (P:  1.71%) (Q: -0.37449) (U: 0.34938) (Q+U: -0.02510) (V:  -.----) 
info string f6g8  (568 ) N:    8235 (+ 0) (P:  1.71%) (Q: -0.37086) (U: 0.34567) (Q+U: -0.02518) (V:  -.----) 
info string f6g4  (590 ) N:    8441 (+ 0) (P:  1.72%) (Q: -0.36482) (U: 0.33950) (Q+U: -0.02532) (V:  -.----) 
info string f6e4  (588 ) N:   16654 (+ 0) (P:  2.30%) (Q: -0.25779) (U: 0.23034) (Q+U: -0.02745) (V:  -.----) 
info string b7b5  (234 ) N:   18981 (+ 0) (P:  2.38%) (Q: -0.23715) (U: 0.20928) (Q+U: -0.02787) (V:  -.----) 
info string b8a6  (34  ) N:   22881 (+ 0) (P:  2.29%) (Q: -0.19570) (U: 0.16699) (Q+U: -0.02871) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h5  (403 ) N:   25960 (+ 0) (P:  2.34%) (Q: -0.17940) (U: 0.15037) (Q+U: -0.02903) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a5  (207 ) N:   85601 (+ 0) (P:  3.35%) (Q: -0.09597) (U: 0.06527) (Q+U: -0.03071) (V:  -.----) 
info string h7h6  (400 ) N:   89921 (+ 0) (P:  3.29%) (Q: -0.09185) (U: 0.06106) (Q+U: -0.03079) (V:  -.----) 
info string a7a6  (204 ) N:  106415 (+ 0) (P:  3.90%) (Q: -0.09198) (U: 0.06119) (Q+U: -0.03079) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d6  (288 ) N:  127038 (+ 0) (P:  4.32%) (Q: -0.08766) (U: 0.05679) (Q+U: -0.03087) (V:  -.----) 
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info string b7b6  (230 ) N:  232866 (+ 0) (P:  5.62%) (Q: -0.07153) (U: 0.04030) (Q+U: -0.03123) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c6  (259 ) N:  609199 (+ 0) (P:  8.34%) (Q: -0.05444) (U: 0.02285) (Q+U: -0.03160) (V:  -.----) 
info string g7g6  (374 ) N:  838694 (+ 0) (P: 11.89%) (Q: -0.05524) (U: 0.02366) (Q+U: -0.03158) (V:  -.----) 
info string d7d5  (293 ) N: 2389771 (+ 0) (P: 12.37%) (Q: -0.04233) (U: 0.00864) (Q+U: -0.03369) (V:  -.----) 
info string e7e6  (317 ) N: 4423700 (+ 0) (P:  6.43%) (Q: -0.04009) (U: 0.00243) (Q+U: -0.03766) (V:  -.----) 
info string c7c5  (264 ) N: 64355187 (+127) (P: 14.93%) (Q: -0.03198) (U: 0.00039) (Q+U: -0.03159) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove c7c5 ponder d4d5
position fen rnbqkbnr/ppppp2p/6p1/5p2/3P4/5N2/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKB1R w KQkq - 0 1
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info string g2g4  (378 ) N:    7531 (+ 0) (P:  1.20%) (Q: -0.12020) (U: 0.34796) (Q+U:  0.22776) (V:  -.----) 
info string h1g1  (177 ) N:   10526 (+ 0) (P:  1.29%) (Q: -0.04545) (U: 0.26774) (Q+U:  0.22230) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3g1  (568 ) N:   13647 (+ 0) (P:  1.38%) (Q: -0.00180) (U: 0.22094) (Q+U:  0.21914) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3h4  (586 ) N:   16645 (+ 0) (P:  1.51%) (Q:  0.01866) (U: 0.19899) (Q+U:  0.21765) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3e5  (588 ) N:   16956 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q:  0.00624) (U: 0.21231) (Q+U:  0.21855) (V:  -.----) 
info string f3d2  (570 ) N:   18745 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q:  0.02513) (U: 0.19205) (Q+U:  0.21717) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1d2  (81  ) N:   23072 (+ 0) (P:  1.57%) (Q:  0.06571) (U: 0.14851) (Q+U:  0.21422) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1a3  (34  ) N:   25306 (+ 0) (P:  1.57%) (Q:  0.07750) (U: 0.13586) (Q+U:  0.21336) (V:  -.----) 
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info string d4d5  (761 ) N:   48005 (+ 0) (P:  1.51%) (Q:  0.13993) (U: 0.06889) (Q+U:  0.20882) (V:  -.----) 
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info string b1d2  (33  ) N:   74138 (+ 0) (P:  2.02%) (Q:  0.14871) (U: 0.05947) (Q+U:  0.20818) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h3  (400 ) N:   84772 (+ 0) (P:  2.26%) (Q:  0.14981) (U: 0.05829) (Q+U:  0.20810) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1e3  (63  ) N:   87768 (+ 0) (P:  1.82%) (Q:  0.16177) (U: 0.04547) (Q+U:  0.20723) (V:  -.----) 
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info string a2a3  (204 ) N:   92989 (+ 0) (P:  2.18%) (Q:  0.15635) (U: 0.05127) (Q+U:  0.20762) (V:  -.----) 
info string b2b4  (234 ) N:   96687 (+ 0) (P:  1.97%) (Q:  0.16254) (U: 0.04464) (Q+U:  0.20718) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c3  (259 ) N:  175995 (+ 0) (P:  2.43%) (Q:  0.17504) (U: 0.03013) (Q+U:  0.20517) (V:  -.----) 
info string e2e3  (317 ) N:  260984 (+ 0) (P:  2.47%) (Q:  0.18283) (U: 0.02069) (Q+U:  0.20352) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1f4  (65  ) N:  476944 (+ 0) (P:  8.83%) (Q:  0.16630) (U: 0.04049) (Q+U:  0.20679) (V:  -.----) 
info string d1d3  (86  ) N:  923648 (+ 0) (P:  2.70%) (Q:  0.19430) (U: 0.00639) (Q+U:  0.20068) (V:  -.----) 
info string c1g5  (67  ) N:  962275 (+ 0) (P:  2.85%) (Q:  0.19425) (U: 0.00646) (Q+U:  0.20072) (V:  -.----) 
info string h2h4  (403 ) N: 1857433 (+ 0) (P: 21.85%) (Q:  0.17874) (U: 0.02572) (Q+U:  0.20446) (V:  -.----) 
info string c2c4  (264 ) N: 12287713 (+ 0) (P: 10.51%) (Q:  0.19794) (U: 0.00187) (Q+U:  0.19982) (V:  -.----) 
info string g2g3  (374 ) N: 23870740 (+ 0) (P: 10.55%) (Q:  0.19865) (U: 0.00097) (Q+U:  0.19961) (V:  -.----) 
info string b1c3  (36  ) N: 73710964 (+261) (P:  4.25%) (Q:  0.20610) (U: 0.00013) (Q+U:  0.20623) (V:  -.----) 
bestmove b1c3 ponder g8f6
Lc0 seems to have a problem with "go movetime" with input redirection so I was not able to automate the process.

Full log is attached.

Daniel
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Re: Need Lc0 help

Post by Dann Corbit »

zullil wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:06 pm I assume that for each of your 18 positions, he's given you best move and evaluation (= 100 * probability of win??) from two different nets.
No.

For each of the moves in the list, the computer evaluation and the actual outcomes from real games disagree.
When the move played by the computer is performed, the outcomes are not as good as when the best move (as a functionality of the probability of winning) is played.

This is actually a very rare occurrence when the depths are greater than 36 plies.

For twenty years now, I have been refining my database by looking for positions with the above metric, and then searching deeper.
Almost invariably, the correct move gets found. This particular batch had already survived many cycles.
I think we may be arriving at a point where my technique no longer works as reliably as it used to.

I think it is still a good idea, especially when the searches are shallow (less than 36 ply). But a high percentage of the "obviously wrong" positions have already been corrected, so of those that remain, maybe they are not really obviously wrong.
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