Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

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Laskos
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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by Laskos » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:17 pm
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Laskos wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:32 pm
What is so bad about openings and humans? Most of opening theory to our days is built by humans, engines' contribution is small and mostly came with "tricks", and often in messy positions. I think you just imply that we can throw away all opening theory and replace it with Stockfish analysis. That is, with the Cerebellum book. Good luck with that!
How do you measure that most of opening theory is built by humans?

It is possible that humans played many moves based on analysis by engines so the fact that they were the first to play a move does not prove that engines did not practically built it.

You can say only about old theory that it is built by humans and it is not clear about novelties in the last 20 years.
Engines started to play _reasonable_ (not good) openings starting with Rybka late incarnations some 10 years ago, due to much handcrafted knowledge introduced in it. In the early 2000s there was a joke --- "engines play excellent chess, but...let them play White, they will start with Nf3, reply with d5, and they will play...Nc3!!!". I don't think that engines until recently were more than a side-tool for OTB GM games in the openings, some sort of sanity check in preparations. And the trend is obvious: From Fritz 7 to Stockfish_dev, it is the engines playing more human-like openings, not the humans playing more engine-like openings.

Do you have examples of large chunks of opening theory built with a substantial engine contribution (not blunder check or sanity check or tactical tricks contributions, that is irrelevant to the point of positional play)?
I think that it may be interesting if somebody throw away all opening theory and replace it with stockfish analysis with a lot of computer time and see if other books can beat this book.
Yes, I maybe will do such a thing in 2 LTC games. Lc0 with "bignet", which seems to agree by far the most with the human opening theory against SF_dev from the standard opening position, side and reversed. I am curious how Lc0 "bignet" will evaluate SF_dev opening moves and quiet midgame moves.

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by zullil » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm

Well, for the first position on Dann's list, it seems that Cfish-dev and Lc0 (42850) both prefer Rac1. I'm curious to try an Lc0 "bignet". What is that and where can I obtain one?

Here's Lc0 after 250M nodes:

info depth 30 seldepth 82 time 4483899 nodes 131704920 score cp 87 hashfull 620 nps 29372 tbhits 0 pv a1c1 b8d6 d2c4 d6f8 f1g2 f8g7 c2b3 f5f4 e3f4 e8e1 c1e1 g5f4 c4e5 g4h5 a3a4 d5e7 b3c4 b7b5 c4c3 b5a4 c5a4 h5g6 a4c5 c8c7 c5a6 c7b6 a6c5 e7f5 e5c6 f5d4 c6e7 g8f8 c3c4 b6b5 c4b5 d4b5 g2c6 g7c3 e7g6 h7g6 e1b1 b5a7 c6a4 f4g3 h2g3 f8g7 c5d7 d8c8 b4b5 c8c4 d7b6 c4d4 b1c1 c3d2 c1d1 d2c3 b6d5 d4a4 d5c3 a4b4 d1d5 a7c8 g1f1 b4b2 f1e1 c8b6 d5c5 b6d7 c5c7 d7e5 f2f4 e5f3 e1d1 f3d4 c7c5 d4f5 d1c1 b2b4 c3d5
bestmove a1c1 ponder b8d6

Here is additional information from the lc0 log file:

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0813 10:18:26.126346 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:290] === Move stats:
0813 10:18:26.126358 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2e4  (266 ) N:     637 (+ 0) (P:  0.35%) (Q: -0.99035) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30292) (Q+U:  0.31256) (V: -0.9976) 
0813 10:18:26.126364 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1b5  (141 ) N:     676 (+ 0) (P:  0.37%) (Q: -0.99575) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30823) (Q+U:  0.31248) (V: -0.9951) 
0813 10:18:26.126369 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2f5  (268 ) N:     699 (+ 0) (P:  0.39%) (Q: -0.99530) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30910) (Q+U:  0.31380) (V: -0.9990) 
0813 10:18:26.126374 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1a6  (143 ) N:     830 (+ 0) (P:  0.43%) (Q: -0.91995) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.23232) (Q+U:  0.31237) (V:  0.0972) 
0813 10:18:26.126379 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e6  (975 ) N:     840 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.98595) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29928) (Q+U:  0.31333) (V: -0.9922) 
0813 10:18:26.126384 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d7  (979 ) N:     845 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.98124) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29427) (Q+U:  0.31303) (V: -0.9927) 
0813 10:18:26.126389 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e4  (963 ) N:     903 (+ 0) (P:  0.49%) (Q: -0.98244) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29564) (Q+U:  0.31320) (V: -0.9961) 
0813 10:18:26.126394 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c3  (259 ) N:     924 (+ 0) (P:  0.51%) (Q: -0.98125) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29454) (Q+U:  0.31329) (V: -0.9937) 
0813 10:18:26.126410 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2e4  (294 ) N:     963 (+ 0) (P:  0.52%) (Q: -0.97404) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.28760) (Q+U:  0.31356) (V: -0.9941) 
0813 10:18:26.126414 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1h3  (138 ) N:     991 (+ 0) (P:  0.54%) (Q: -0.96868) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.28221) (Q+U:  0.31352) (V: -0.9282) 
0813 10:18:26.126419 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2f3  (290 ) N:    1050 (+ 0) (P:  0.56%) (Q: -0.95555) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.26866) (Q+U:  0.31310) (V: -0.9307) 
0813 10:18:26.126423 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f4  (351 ) N:    1276 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.89142) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.20360) (Q+U:  0.31218) (V: -0.6934) 
0813 10:18:26.126428 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a6  (971 ) N:    1311 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.86750) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.17975) (Q+U:  0.31225) (V: -0.1421) 
0813 10:18:26.126442 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d1  (248 ) N:    1411 (+ 0) (P:  0.77%) (Q: -0.98590) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29926) (Q+U:  0.31336) (V: -0.9971) 
0813 10:18:26.126447 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h4  (403 ) N:    1608 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.78927) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.10005) (Q+U:  0.31078) (V: -0.7119) 
0813 10:18:26.126451 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1e2  (106 ) N:    1626 (+ 0) (P:  0.53%) (Q: -0.46484) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.77123) (Q+U:  0.30639) (V: -0.8408) 
0813 10:18:26.126455 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1d1  (100 ) N:    1909 (+ 0) (P:  0.55%) (Q: -0.37367) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67894) (Q+U:  0.30528) (V: -0.7339) 
0813 10:18:26.126459 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1d1  (2   ) N:    2716 (+ 0) (P:  0.78%) (Q: -0.37262) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67787) (Q+U:  0.30525) (V: -0.4390) 
0813 10:18:26.126464 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b7  (977 ) N:    3330 (+ 0) (P:  1.10%) (Q: -0.47516) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.78187) (Q+U:  0.30671) (V:  0.1328) 
0813 10:18:26.126468 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] b4b5  (695 ) N:    3481 (+ 0) (P:  0.73%) (Q: -0.19095) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.49380) (Q+U:  0.30285) (V: -0.1758) 
0813 10:18:26.126472 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1b1  (98  ) N:    3628 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.16621) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.46870) (Q+U:  0.30249) (V: -0.1896) 
0813 10:18:26.126477 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a4  (959 ) N:    5028 (+ 0) (P:  0.85%) (Q: -0.09749) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.39900) (Q+U:  0.30151) (V: -0.1006) 
0813 10:18:26.126481 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a3a4  (425 ) N:    5302 (+ 0) (P:  1.08%) (Q: -0.17835) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.48107) (Q+U:  0.30272) (V: -0.0344) 
0813 10:18:26.126485 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d3  (957 ) N:    6845 (+ 0) (P:  1.11%) (Q: -0.08182) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.38320) (Q+U:  0.30138) (V: -0.1106) 
0813 10:18:26.126489 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b1  (274 ) N:    6951 (+ 0) (P:  0.93%) (Q: -0.01482) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.31526) (Q+U:  0.30044) (V: -0.1206) 
0813 10:18:26.126494 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1g2  (156 ) N:    7731 (+ 0) (P:  0.93%) (Q:  0.01459) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.28544) (Q+U:  0.30003) (V: -0.1053) 
0813 10:18:26.126498 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1c1  (99  ) N:    7740 (+ 0) (P:  1.00%) (Q: -0.00522) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.30553) (Q+U:  0.30031) (V: -0.1247) 
0813 10:18:26.126502 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b3  (955 ) N:    8035 (+ 0) (P:  0.88%) (Q:  0.04097) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.25869) (Q+U:  0.29966) (V: -0.0432) 
0813 10:18:26.126506 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1a2  (7   ) N:    8674 (+ 0) (P:  0.99%) (Q:  0.03079) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.26899) (Q+U:  0.29978) (V: -0.1000) 
0813 10:18:26.126510 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a4  (262 ) N:    9218 (+ 0) (P:  1.05%) (Q:  0.02974) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.27006) (Q+U:  0.29980) (V: -0.1327) 
0813 10:18:26.126515 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1e2  (130 ) N:   10064 (+ 0) (P:  1.37%) (Q: -0.02170) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.32219) (Q+U:  0.30049) (V: -0.0825) 
0813 10:18:26.126519 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1h1  (153 ) N:   11205 (+ 0) (P:  1.23%) (Q:  0.03907) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.26062) (Q+U:  0.29969) (V: -0.0555) 
0813 10:18:26.126523 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c4  (264 ) N:   11246 (+ 0) (P:  0.84%) (Q:  0.12138) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17713) (Q+U:  0.29851) (V:  0.0055) 
0813 10:18:26.126527 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a2  (250 ) N:   11329 (+ 0) (P:  1.14%) (Q:  0.06200) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.23736) (Q+U:  0.29936) (V: -0.0047) 
0813 10:18:26.126532 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f3  (346 ) N:   12175 (+ 0) (P:  1.59%) (Q: -0.00848) (D:  0.008) (U: 0.30883) (Q+U:  0.30035) (V:  0.0448) 
0813 10:18:26.126536 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b3  (286 ) N:   14618 (+ 0) (P:  1.42%) (Q:  0.07008) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.22918) (Q+U:  0.29925) (V:  0.0074) 
0813 10:18:26.126543 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b1  (246 ) N:   15946 (+ 0) (P:  1.20%) (Q:  0.12059) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17793) (Q+U:  0.29852) (V: -0.0950) 
0813 10:18:26.126547 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c1  (247 ) N:   16177 (+ 0) (P:  1.23%) (Q:  0.11866) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17991) (Q+U:  0.29857) (V:  0.0155) 
0813 10:18:26.126552 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1b1  (0   ) N:   22567 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q:  0.12513) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17334) (Q+U:  0.29848) (V:  0.0317) 
0813 10:18:26.126556 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b3  (258 ) N:   23296 (+ 0) (P:  1.57%) (Q:  0.13912) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.15916) (Q+U:  0.29828) (V:  0.0797) 
0813 10:18:26.126560 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1c4  (139 ) N:   24439 (+ 0) (P:  2.50%) (Q:  0.05710) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.24232) (Q+U:  0.29942) (V:  0.0104) 
0813 10:18:26.126564 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d3  (260 ) N:   34320 (+ 0) (P:  2.49%) (Q:  0.12659) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17187) (Q+U:  0.29846) (V:  0.0150) 
0813 10:18:26.126569 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e3e4  (551 ) N:   60426 (+ 0) (P:  7.19%) (Q:  0.01839) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.28155) (Q+U:  0.29995) (V:  0.2113) 
0813 10:18:26.126573 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1d3  (134 ) N:   70077 (+ 0) (P:  7.63%) (Q:  0.04199) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.25762) (Q+U:  0.29962) (V:  0.0586) 
0813 10:18:26.126577 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h3  (400 ) N:   86491 (+ 0) (P:  8.98%) (Q:  0.05379) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.24565) (Q+U:  0.29944) (V:  0.0882) 
0813 10:18:26.126581 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2c4  (292 ) N:  271511 (+ 0) (P:  8.26%) (Q:  0.22507) (D:  0.002) (U: 0.07197) (Q+U:  0.29705) (V:  0.0591) 
0813 10:18:26.126586 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1g2  (132 ) N:  548366 (+ 0) (P: 15.95%) (Q:  0.22811) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.06885) (Q+U:  0.29696) (V:  0.0526) 
0813 10:18:26.126590 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b2  (251 ) N: 6033620 (+ 0) (P:  1.28%) (Q:  0.25846) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00050) (Q+U:  0.25896) (V:  0.1095) 
0813 10:18:26.126594 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1c1  (1   ) N: 124329868 (+196) (P: 11.38%) (Q:  0.29588) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00022) (Q+U:  0.29610) (V:  0.0692) 
0813 10:18:26.126598 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:294] --- Opponent moves after: a1c1
0813 10:18:26.126793 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e3  (119 ) N:    1596 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.96680) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65903) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.8257) 
0813 10:18:26.126800 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e5  (115 ) N:    1708 (+ 0) (P:  0.50%) (Q: -0.97239) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66459) (Q+U: -0.30780) (V: -0.9912) 
0813 10:18:26.126805 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4e2  (1109) N:    1768 (+ 0) (P:  0.53%) (Q: -0.99104) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.68322) (Q+U: -0.30781) (V: -0.9966) 
0813 10:18:26.126809 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8e6  (63  ) N:    1951 (+ 0) (P:  0.57%) (Q: -0.97123) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66319) (Q+U: -0.30804) (V: -0.9897) 
0813 10:18:26.126813 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4d1  (1113) N:    2032 (+ 0) (P:  0.61%) (Q: -0.99195) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.68397) (Q+U: -0.30798) (V: -0.9878) 
0813 10:18:26.126817 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e4  (118 ) N:    2072 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.96705) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65920) (Q+U: -0.30785) (V: -0.9331) 
0813 10:18:26.126822 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4f3  (1106) N:    2087 (+ 0) (P:  0.61%) (Q: -0.97773) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66971) (Q+U: -0.30802) (V: -0.9951) 
0813 10:18:26.126826 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c3  (765 ) N:    2124 (+ 0) (P:  0.62%) (Q: -0.97293) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66503) (Q+U: -0.30790) (V: -0.9927) 
0813 10:18:26.126830 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8g3  (43  ) N:    2186 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.93809) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.63022) (Q+U: -0.30787) (V: -0.8506) 
0813 10:18:26.126839 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f4  (763 ) N:    2232 (+ 0) (P:  0.64%) (Q: -0.96504) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65709) (Q+U: -0.30796) (V: -0.9731) 
0813 10:18:26.126844 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e6  (111 ) N:    2259 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.91466) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.60678) (Q+U: -0.30788) (V: -0.9248) 
0813 10:18:26.126848 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8e5  (39  ) N:    2311 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.97438) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66633) (Q+U: -0.30805) (V: -0.9883) 
0813 10:18:26.126852 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8f4  (41  ) N:    2346 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.97136) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66345) (Q+U: -0.30790) (V: -0.9917) 
0813 10:18:26.126856 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b4  (759 ) N:    2356 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.96722) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65934) (Q+U: -0.30788) (V: -0.8667) 
0813 10:18:26.126861 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e3  (767 ) N:    2374 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.95648) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.64865) (Q+U: -0.30783) (V: -0.7241) 
0813 10:18:26.126865 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h3  (1108) N:    2384 (+ 0) (P:  0.70%) (Q: -0.97512) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66715) (Q+U: -0.30798) (V: -0.9795) 
0813 10:18:26.126869 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d7  (81  ) N:    2793 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.89725) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.58931) (Q+U: -0.30794) (V: -0.9258) 
0813 10:18:26.126873 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8d7  (57  ) N:    2856 (+ 0) (P:  0.84%) (Q: -0.97860) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67082) (Q+U: -0.30778) (V: -0.9937) 
0813 10:18:26.126878 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b6  (230 ) N:    4620 (+ 0) (P:  0.99%) (Q: -0.79805) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.49025) (Q+U: -0.30780) (V: -0.4446) 
0813 10:18:26.126882 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] a6a5  (425 ) N:    5936 (+ 0) (P:  1.04%) (Q: -0.70719) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.39936) (Q+U: -0.30782) (V: -0.5625) 
0813 10:18:26.126886 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b5  (234 ) N:   13326 (+ 0) (P:  0.87%) (Q: -0.45741) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.14963) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.3381) 
0813 10:18:26.126890 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h5  (403 ) N:   22093 (+ 0) (P:  2.46%) (Q: -0.56190) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.25411) (Q+U: -0.30778) (V: -0.2681) 
0813 10:18:26.126895 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8f8  (101 ) N:   25056 (+ 0) (P:  1.22%) (Q: -0.42537) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.11172) (Q+U: -0.31366) (V: -0.2925) 
0813 10:18:26.126899 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8c7  (56  ) N:   34297 (+ 0) (P:  1.32%) (Q: -0.40574) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.08833) (Q+U: -0.31741) (V: -0.3564) 
0813 10:18:26.126903 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c7  (743 ) N:   40865 (+ 0) (P:  1.18%) (Q: -0.38691) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.06592) (Q+U: -0.32099) (V: -0.2744) 
0813 10:18:26.126908 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b6  (747 ) N:   44353 (+ 0) (P:  1.15%) (Q: -0.38148) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05946) (Q+U: -0.32203) (V: -0.3113) 
0813 10:18:26.126912 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e7  (745 ) N:   57493 (+ 0) (P:  1.32%) (Q: -0.37564) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05248) (Q+U: -0.32316) (V: -0.2115) 
0813 10:18:26.126916 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8f8  (152 ) N:   73382 (+ 0) (P:  1.76%) (Q: -0.37766) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05490) (Q+U: -0.32276) (V: -0.2238) 
0813 10:18:26.126920 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d6  (86  ) N:  100437 (+ 0) (P:  1.74%) (Q: -0.36488) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.03967) (Q+U: -0.32521) (V: -0.2018) 
0813 10:18:26.126925 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8h8  (153 ) N:  269210 (+ 0) (P:  2.43%) (Q: -0.34890) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.02063) (Q+U: -0.32827) (V: -0.1587) 
0813 10:18:26.126929 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8a7  (30  ) N:  281809 (+ 0) (P:  2.07%) (Q: -0.34570) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.01681) (Q+U: -0.32888) (V: -0.1934) 
0813 10:18:26.126933 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8c7  (32  ) N:  358303 (+ 0) (P:  1.66%) (Q: -0.34050) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.01061) (Q+U: -0.32988) (V: -0.1835) 
0813 10:18:26.126943 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f5f4  (830 ) N:  520810 (+ 0) (P: 17.18%) (Q: -0.39490) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.07544) (Q+U: -0.31946) (V: -0.1472) 
0813 10:18:26.126948 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f7f6  (346 ) N:  531984 (+ 0) (P:  1.35%) (Q: -0.33648) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00582) (Q+U: -0.33066) (V: -0.2040) 
0813 10:18:26.126952 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e7  (106 ) N: 2284670 (+ 0) (P: 13.04%) (Q: -0.34254) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.01306) (Q+U: -0.32949) (V: -0.1177) 
0813 10:18:26.126956 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h6  (400 ) N: 3326270 (+ 0) (P:  9.99%) (Q: -0.33735) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00686) (Q+U: -0.33049) (V: -0.1132) 
0813 10:18:26.126960 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f6  (751 ) N: 4182416 (+ 0) (P:  4.80%) (Q: -0.33380) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00263) (Q+U: -0.33117) (V: -0.1835) 
0813 10:18:26.126965 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8g7  (156 ) N: 7562589 (+ 0) (P: 11.41%) (Q: -0.33449) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00345) (Q+U: -0.33104) (V: -0.0909) 
0813 10:18:26.126969 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h5  (1097) N: 28509731 (+ 0) (P:  8.11%) (Q: -0.33214) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00065) (Q+U: -0.33149) (V: -0.2085) 
0813 10:18:26.126973 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8d6  (37  ) N: 76040782 (+196) (P:  1.60%) (Q: -0.30781) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00005) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.2009) 

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by Laskos » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 pm

zullil wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Well, for the first position on Dann's list, it seems that Cfish-dev and Lc0 (42850) both prefer Rac1. I'm curious to try an Lc0 "bignet". What is that and where can I obtain one?

Here's Lc0 after 250M nodes:

info depth 30 seldepth 82 time 4483899 nodes 131704920 score cp 87 hashfull 620 nps 29372 tbhits 0 pv a1c1 b8d6 d2c4 d6f8 f1g2 f8g7 c2b3 f5f4 e3f4 e8e1 c1e1 g5f4 c4e5 g4h5 a3a4 d5e7 b3c4 b7b5 c4c3 b5a4 c5a4 h5g6 a4c5 c8c7 c5a6 c7b6 a6c5 e7f5 e5c6 f5d4 c6e7 g8f8 c3c4 b6b5 c4b5 d4b5 g2c6 g7c3 e7g6 h7g6 e1b1 b5a7 c6a4 f4g3 h2g3 f8g7 c5d7 d8c8 b4b5 c8c4 d7b6 c4d4 b1c1 c3d2 c1d1 d2c3 b6d5 d4a4 d5c3 a4b4 d1d5 a7c8 g1f1 b4b2 f1e1 c8b6 d5c5 b6d7 c5c7 d7e5 f2f4 e5f3 e1d1 f3d4 c7c5 d4f5 d1c1 b2b4 c3d5
bestmove a1c1 ponder b8d6

Here is additional information from the lc0 log file:

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0813 10:18:26.126346 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:290] === Move stats:
0813 10:18:26.126358 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2e4  (266 ) N:     637 (+ 0) (P:  0.35%) (Q: -0.99035) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30292) (Q+U:  0.31256) (V: -0.9976) 
0813 10:18:26.126364 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1b5  (141 ) N:     676 (+ 0) (P:  0.37%) (Q: -0.99575) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30823) (Q+U:  0.31248) (V: -0.9951) 
0813 10:18:26.126369 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2f5  (268 ) N:     699 (+ 0) (P:  0.39%) (Q: -0.99530) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.30910) (Q+U:  0.31380) (V: -0.9990) 
0813 10:18:26.126374 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1a6  (143 ) N:     830 (+ 0) (P:  0.43%) (Q: -0.91995) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.23232) (Q+U:  0.31237) (V:  0.0972) 
0813 10:18:26.126379 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e6  (975 ) N:     840 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.98595) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29928) (Q+U:  0.31333) (V: -0.9922) 
0813 10:18:26.126384 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d7  (979 ) N:     845 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.98124) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29427) (Q+U:  0.31303) (V: -0.9927) 
0813 10:18:26.126389 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e4  (963 ) N:     903 (+ 0) (P:  0.49%) (Q: -0.98244) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29564) (Q+U:  0.31320) (V: -0.9961) 
0813 10:18:26.126394 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c3  (259 ) N:     924 (+ 0) (P:  0.51%) (Q: -0.98125) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29454) (Q+U:  0.31329) (V: -0.9937) 
0813 10:18:26.126410 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2e4  (294 ) N:     963 (+ 0) (P:  0.52%) (Q: -0.97404) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.28760) (Q+U:  0.31356) (V: -0.9941) 
0813 10:18:26.126414 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1h3  (138 ) N:     991 (+ 0) (P:  0.54%) (Q: -0.96868) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.28221) (Q+U:  0.31352) (V: -0.9282) 
0813 10:18:26.126419 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2f3  (290 ) N:    1050 (+ 0) (P:  0.56%) (Q: -0.95555) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.26866) (Q+U:  0.31310) (V: -0.9307) 
0813 10:18:26.126423 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f4  (351 ) N:    1276 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.89142) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.20360) (Q+U:  0.31218) (V: -0.6934) 
0813 10:18:26.126428 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a6  (971 ) N:    1311 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.86750) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.17975) (Q+U:  0.31225) (V: -0.1421) 
0813 10:18:26.126442 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d1  (248 ) N:    1411 (+ 0) (P:  0.77%) (Q: -0.98590) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.29926) (Q+U:  0.31336) (V: -0.9971) 
0813 10:18:26.126447 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h4  (403 ) N:    1608 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.78927) (D:  0.000) (U: 1.10005) (Q+U:  0.31078) (V: -0.7119) 
0813 10:18:26.126451 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1e2  (106 ) N:    1626 (+ 0) (P:  0.53%) (Q: -0.46484) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.77123) (Q+U:  0.30639) (V: -0.8408) 
0813 10:18:26.126455 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1d1  (100 ) N:    1909 (+ 0) (P:  0.55%) (Q: -0.37367) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67894) (Q+U:  0.30528) (V: -0.7339) 
0813 10:18:26.126459 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1d1  (2   ) N:    2716 (+ 0) (P:  0.78%) (Q: -0.37262) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67787) (Q+U:  0.30525) (V: -0.4390) 
0813 10:18:26.126464 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b7  (977 ) N:    3330 (+ 0) (P:  1.10%) (Q: -0.47516) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.78187) (Q+U:  0.30671) (V:  0.1328) 
0813 10:18:26.126468 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] b4b5  (695 ) N:    3481 (+ 0) (P:  0.73%) (Q: -0.19095) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.49380) (Q+U:  0.30285) (V: -0.1758) 
0813 10:18:26.126472 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1b1  (98  ) N:    3628 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.16621) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.46870) (Q+U:  0.30249) (V: -0.1896) 
0813 10:18:26.126477 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a4  (959 ) N:    5028 (+ 0) (P:  0.85%) (Q: -0.09749) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.39900) (Q+U:  0.30151) (V: -0.1006) 
0813 10:18:26.126481 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a3a4  (425 ) N:    5302 (+ 0) (P:  1.08%) (Q: -0.17835) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.48107) (Q+U:  0.30272) (V: -0.0344) 
0813 10:18:26.126485 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d3  (957 ) N:    6845 (+ 0) (P:  1.11%) (Q: -0.08182) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.38320) (Q+U:  0.30138) (V: -0.1106) 
0813 10:18:26.126489 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b1  (274 ) N:    6951 (+ 0) (P:  0.93%) (Q: -0.01482) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.31526) (Q+U:  0.30044) (V: -0.1206) 
0813 10:18:26.126494 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1g2  (156 ) N:    7731 (+ 0) (P:  0.93%) (Q:  0.01459) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.28544) (Q+U:  0.30003) (V: -0.1053) 
0813 10:18:26.126498 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1c1  (99  ) N:    7740 (+ 0) (P:  1.00%) (Q: -0.00522) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.30553) (Q+U:  0.30031) (V: -0.1247) 
0813 10:18:26.126502 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b3  (955 ) N:    8035 (+ 0) (P:  0.88%) (Q:  0.04097) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.25869) (Q+U:  0.29966) (V: -0.0432) 
0813 10:18:26.126506 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1a2  (7   ) N:    8674 (+ 0) (P:  0.99%) (Q:  0.03079) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.26899) (Q+U:  0.29978) (V: -0.1000) 
0813 10:18:26.126510 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a4  (262 ) N:    9218 (+ 0) (P:  1.05%) (Q:  0.02974) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.27006) (Q+U:  0.29980) (V: -0.1327) 
0813 10:18:26.126515 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1e2  (130 ) N:   10064 (+ 0) (P:  1.37%) (Q: -0.02170) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.32219) (Q+U:  0.30049) (V: -0.0825) 
0813 10:18:26.126519 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1h1  (153 ) N:   11205 (+ 0) (P:  1.23%) (Q:  0.03907) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.26062) (Q+U:  0.29969) (V: -0.0555) 
0813 10:18:26.126523 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c4  (264 ) N:   11246 (+ 0) (P:  0.84%) (Q:  0.12138) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17713) (Q+U:  0.29851) (V:  0.0055) 
0813 10:18:26.126527 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a2  (250 ) N:   11329 (+ 0) (P:  1.14%) (Q:  0.06200) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.23736) (Q+U:  0.29936) (V: -0.0047) 
0813 10:18:26.126532 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f3  (346 ) N:   12175 (+ 0) (P:  1.59%) (Q: -0.00848) (D:  0.008) (U: 0.30883) (Q+U:  0.30035) (V:  0.0448) 
0813 10:18:26.126536 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b3  (286 ) N:   14618 (+ 0) (P:  1.42%) (Q:  0.07008) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.22918) (Q+U:  0.29925) (V:  0.0074) 
0813 10:18:26.126543 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b1  (246 ) N:   15946 (+ 0) (P:  1.20%) (Q:  0.12059) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17793) (Q+U:  0.29852) (V: -0.0950) 
0813 10:18:26.126547 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c1  (247 ) N:   16177 (+ 0) (P:  1.23%) (Q:  0.11866) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17991) (Q+U:  0.29857) (V:  0.0155) 
0813 10:18:26.126552 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1b1  (0   ) N:   22567 (+ 0) (P:  1.65%) (Q:  0.12513) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17334) (Q+U:  0.29848) (V:  0.0317) 
0813 10:18:26.126556 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b3  (258 ) N:   23296 (+ 0) (P:  1.57%) (Q:  0.13912) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.15916) (Q+U:  0.29828) (V:  0.0797) 
0813 10:18:26.126560 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1c4  (139 ) N:   24439 (+ 0) (P:  2.50%) (Q:  0.05710) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.24232) (Q+U:  0.29942) (V:  0.0104) 
0813 10:18:26.126564 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d3  (260 ) N:   34320 (+ 0) (P:  2.49%) (Q:  0.12659) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.17187) (Q+U:  0.29846) (V:  0.0150) 
0813 10:18:26.126569 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e3e4  (551 ) N:   60426 (+ 0) (P:  7.19%) (Q:  0.01839) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.28155) (Q+U:  0.29995) (V:  0.2113) 
0813 10:18:26.126573 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1d3  (134 ) N:   70077 (+ 0) (P:  7.63%) (Q:  0.04199) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.25762) (Q+U:  0.29962) (V:  0.0586) 
0813 10:18:26.126577 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h3  (400 ) N:   86491 (+ 0) (P:  8.98%) (Q:  0.05379) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.24565) (Q+U:  0.29944) (V:  0.0882) 
0813 10:18:26.126581 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2c4  (292 ) N:  271511 (+ 0) (P:  8.26%) (Q:  0.22507) (D:  0.002) (U: 0.07197) (Q+U:  0.29705) (V:  0.0591) 
0813 10:18:26.126586 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1g2  (132 ) N:  548366 (+ 0) (P: 15.95%) (Q:  0.22811) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.06885) (Q+U:  0.29696) (V:  0.0526) 
0813 10:18:26.126590 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b2  (251 ) N: 6033620 (+ 0) (P:  1.28%) (Q:  0.25846) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00050) (Q+U:  0.25896) (V:  0.1095) 
0813 10:18:26.126594 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1c1  (1   ) N: 124329868 (+196) (P: 11.38%) (Q:  0.29588) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00022) (Q+U:  0.29610) (V:  0.0692) 
0813 10:18:26.126598 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:294] --- Opponent moves after: a1c1
0813 10:18:26.126793 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e3  (119 ) N:    1596 (+ 0) (P:  0.46%) (Q: -0.96680) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65903) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.8257) 
0813 10:18:26.126800 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e5  (115 ) N:    1708 (+ 0) (P:  0.50%) (Q: -0.97239) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66459) (Q+U: -0.30780) (V: -0.9912) 
0813 10:18:26.126805 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4e2  (1109) N:    1768 (+ 0) (P:  0.53%) (Q: -0.99104) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.68322) (Q+U: -0.30781) (V: -0.9966) 
0813 10:18:26.126809 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8e6  (63  ) N:    1951 (+ 0) (P:  0.57%) (Q: -0.97123) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66319) (Q+U: -0.30804) (V: -0.9897) 
0813 10:18:26.126813 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4d1  (1113) N:    2032 (+ 0) (P:  0.61%) (Q: -0.99195) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.68397) (Q+U: -0.30798) (V: -0.9878) 
0813 10:18:26.126817 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e4  (118 ) N:    2072 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.96705) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65920) (Q+U: -0.30785) (V: -0.9331) 
0813 10:18:26.126822 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4f3  (1106) N:    2087 (+ 0) (P:  0.61%) (Q: -0.97773) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66971) (Q+U: -0.30802) (V: -0.9951) 
0813 10:18:26.126826 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c3  (765 ) N:    2124 (+ 0) (P:  0.62%) (Q: -0.97293) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66503) (Q+U: -0.30790) (V: -0.9927) 
0813 10:18:26.126830 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8g3  (43  ) N:    2186 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.93809) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.63022) (Q+U: -0.30787) (V: -0.8506) 
0813 10:18:26.126839 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f4  (763 ) N:    2232 (+ 0) (P:  0.64%) (Q: -0.96504) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65709) (Q+U: -0.30796) (V: -0.9731) 
0813 10:18:26.126844 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e6  (111 ) N:    2259 (+ 0) (P:  0.60%) (Q: -0.91466) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.60678) (Q+U: -0.30788) (V: -0.9248) 
0813 10:18:26.126848 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8e5  (39  ) N:    2311 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.97438) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66633) (Q+U: -0.30805) (V: -0.9883) 
0813 10:18:26.126852 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8f4  (41  ) N:    2346 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.97136) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66345) (Q+U: -0.30790) (V: -0.9917) 
0813 10:18:26.126856 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b4  (759 ) N:    2356 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.96722) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.65934) (Q+U: -0.30788) (V: -0.8667) 
0813 10:18:26.126861 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e3  (767 ) N:    2374 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.95648) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.64865) (Q+U: -0.30783) (V: -0.7241) 
0813 10:18:26.126865 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h3  (1108) N:    2384 (+ 0) (P:  0.70%) (Q: -0.97512) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.66715) (Q+U: -0.30798) (V: -0.9795) 
0813 10:18:26.126869 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d7  (81  ) N:    2793 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.89725) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.58931) (Q+U: -0.30794) (V: -0.9258) 
0813 10:18:26.126873 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8d7  (57  ) N:    2856 (+ 0) (P:  0.84%) (Q: -0.97860) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.67082) (Q+U: -0.30778) (V: -0.9937) 
0813 10:18:26.126878 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b6  (230 ) N:    4620 (+ 0) (P:  0.99%) (Q: -0.79805) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.49025) (Q+U: -0.30780) (V: -0.4446) 
0813 10:18:26.126882 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] a6a5  (425 ) N:    5936 (+ 0) (P:  1.04%) (Q: -0.70719) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.39936) (Q+U: -0.30782) (V: -0.5625) 
0813 10:18:26.126886 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b5  (234 ) N:   13326 (+ 0) (P:  0.87%) (Q: -0.45741) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.14963) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.3381) 
0813 10:18:26.126890 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h5  (403 ) N:   22093 (+ 0) (P:  2.46%) (Q: -0.56190) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.25411) (Q+U: -0.30778) (V: -0.2681) 
0813 10:18:26.126895 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8f8  (101 ) N:   25056 (+ 0) (P:  1.22%) (Q: -0.42537) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.11172) (Q+U: -0.31366) (V: -0.2925) 
0813 10:18:26.126899 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8c7  (56  ) N:   34297 (+ 0) (P:  1.32%) (Q: -0.40574) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.08833) (Q+U: -0.31741) (V: -0.3564) 
0813 10:18:26.126903 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c7  (743 ) N:   40865 (+ 0) (P:  1.18%) (Q: -0.38691) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.06592) (Q+U: -0.32099) (V: -0.2744) 
0813 10:18:26.126908 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b6  (747 ) N:   44353 (+ 0) (P:  1.15%) (Q: -0.38148) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05946) (Q+U: -0.32203) (V: -0.3113) 
0813 10:18:26.126912 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e7  (745 ) N:   57493 (+ 0) (P:  1.32%) (Q: -0.37564) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05248) (Q+U: -0.32316) (V: -0.2115) 
0813 10:18:26.126916 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8f8  (152 ) N:   73382 (+ 0) (P:  1.76%) (Q: -0.37766) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.05490) (Q+U: -0.32276) (V: -0.2238) 
0813 10:18:26.126920 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d6  (86  ) N:  100437 (+ 0) (P:  1.74%) (Q: -0.36488) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.03967) (Q+U: -0.32521) (V: -0.2018) 
0813 10:18:26.126925 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8h8  (153 ) N:  269210 (+ 0) (P:  2.43%) (Q: -0.34890) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.02063) (Q+U: -0.32827) (V: -0.1587) 
0813 10:18:26.126929 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8a7  (30  ) N:  281809 (+ 0) (P:  2.07%) (Q: -0.34570) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.01681) (Q+U: -0.32888) (V: -0.1934) 
0813 10:18:26.126933 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8c7  (32  ) N:  358303 (+ 0) (P:  1.66%) (Q: -0.34050) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.01061) (Q+U: -0.32988) (V: -0.1835) 
0813 10:18:26.126943 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f5f4  (830 ) N:  520810 (+ 0) (P: 17.18%) (Q: -0.39490) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.07544) (Q+U: -0.31946) (V: -0.1472) 
0813 10:18:26.126948 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f7f6  (346 ) N:  531984 (+ 0) (P:  1.35%) (Q: -0.33648) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00582) (Q+U: -0.33066) (V: -0.2040) 
0813 10:18:26.126952 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e7  (106 ) N: 2284670 (+ 0) (P: 13.04%) (Q: -0.34254) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.01306) (Q+U: -0.32949) (V: -0.1177) 
0813 10:18:26.126956 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h6  (400 ) N: 3326270 (+ 0) (P:  9.99%) (Q: -0.33735) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00686) (Q+U: -0.33049) (V: -0.1132) 
0813 10:18:26.126960 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f6  (751 ) N: 4182416 (+ 0) (P:  4.80%) (Q: -0.33380) (D:  0.000) (U: 0.00263) (Q+U: -0.33117) (V: -0.1835) 
0813 10:18:26.126965 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8g7  (156 ) N: 7562589 (+ 0) (P: 11.41%) (Q: -0.33449) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00345) (Q+U: -0.33104) (V: -0.0909) 
0813 10:18:26.126969 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h5  (1097) N: 28509731 (+ 0) (P:  8.11%) (Q: -0.33214) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00065) (Q+U: -0.33149) (V: -0.2085) 
0813 10:18:26.126973 140500888676096 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8d6  (37  ) N: 76040782 (+196) (P:  1.60%) (Q: -0.30781) (D:  0.001) (U: 0.00005) (Q+U: -0.30777) (V: -0.2009) 
Here is the link,
https://github.com/jhorthos/lczero-trai ... a-Training

Download the 320x24b J13-410 net, at LTC it is probably the best net on an RTX GPU.

It is entirely possible that I assigned a wrong bm to the position you analyzed, I guess 10% or even more of solutions are wrong. Even so, with 10% wrong solutions, as long as the positional problems with correct bm are difficult enough, usually the positionally stronger engine will score better than the positionally weaker engine. It is bad when the upper flooring starts messing up the results.

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by zullil » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:46 pm

Laskos wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 pm

Here is the link,
https://github.com/jhorthos/lczero-trai ... a-Training

Download the 320x24b J13-410 net, at LTC it is probably the best net on an RTX GPU.
Thanks!

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by jp » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:51 pm

zullil wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Here is additional information from the lc0 log file:
What are N, P, Q, D, U, V?

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by Laskos » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:13 pm

Here are the results on these two suites at exactly 10s/position, Openings200revised (200 positions) and Midgames239 (239 positions) tested today. RTX 2070 GPU, 4 i7 3.8GHz cores.

Lc0 JH 320x24b-410 bignet
score=163/200 [averages on correct positions: depth=4.6 time=1.04 nodes=8212]
score=192/239 [averages on correct positions: depth=5.0 time=1.09 nodes=7988]
=======================================================
355 solved, 84 unsolved


Lc0 42850
score=161/200 [averages on correct positions: depth=5.0 time=0.97 nodes=17176]
score=190/239 [averages on correct positions: depth=5.5 time=0.90 nodes=14153]
=======================================================
351 solved, 88 unsolved


Lc0 32996
score=155/200 [averages on correct positions: depth=5.1 time=1.15 nodes=21711]
score=186/239 [averages on correct positions: depth=5.5 time=0.86 nodes=13693]
=======================================================
341 solved, 98 unsolved


SF_dev
score=138/200 [averages on correct positions: depth=17.3 time=2.58 nodes=13501202]
score=158/239 [averages on correct positions: depth=15.3 time=1.94 nodes=11016726]
=======================================================
296 solved, 143 unsolved


Andscacs_095
score=97/200 [averages on correct positions: depth=15.7 time=2.71 nodes=10958554]
score=143/239 [averages on correct positions: depth=13.0 time=1.27 nodes=5358639]
=======================================================
240 solved, 199 unsolved

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by zullil » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:15 pm

jp wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:51 pm
zullil wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Here is additional information from the lc0 log file:
What are N, P, Q, D, U, V?
They're mostly capital letters to me, but we'd likely both benefit from reading here: https://github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/w ... Chess-Zero

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by zullil » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:38 pm

Laskos wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:44 pm
zullil wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:35 pm
Well, for the first position on Dann's list, it seems that Cfish-dev and Lc0 (42850) both prefer Rac1. I'm curious to try an Lc0 "bignet". What is that and where can I obtain one?

Here's Lc0 after 250M nodes:

info depth 30 seldepth 82 time 4483899 nodes 131704920 score cp 87 hashfull 620 nps 29372 tbhits 0 pv a1c1 b8d6 d2c4 d6f8 f1g2 f8g7 c2b3 f5f4 e3f4 e8e1 c1e1 g5f4 c4e5 g4h5 a3a4 d5e7 b3c4 b7b5 c4c3 b5a4 c5a4 h5g6 a4c5 c8c7 c5a6 c7b6 a6c5 e7f5 e5c6 f5d4 c6e7 g8f8 c3c4 b6b5 c4b5 d4b5 g2c6 g7c3 e7g6 h7g6 e1b1 b5a7 c6a4 f4g3 h2g3 f8g7 c5d7 d8c8 b4b5 c8c4 d7b6 c4d4 b1c1 c3d2 c1d1 d2c3 b6d5 d4a4 d5c3 a4b4 d1d5 a7c8 g1f1 b4b2 f1e1 c8b6 d5c5 b6d7 c5c7 d7e5 f2f4 e5f3 e1d1 f3d4 c7c5 d4f5 d1c1 b2b4 c3d5
bestmove a1c1 ponder b8d6

Here is the link,
https://github.com/jhorthos/lczero-trai ... a-Training

Download the 320x24b J13-410 net, at LTC it is probably the best net on an RTX GPU.

It is entirely possible that I assigned a wrong bm to the position you analyzed, I guess 10% or even more of solutions are wrong. Even so, with 10% wrong solutions, as long as the positional problems with correct bm are difficult enough, usually the positionally stronger engine will score better than the positionally weaker engine. It is bad when the upper flooring starts messing up the results.
Here's Lc0 (320x24b J13-410 net) after about one hour searching the first position in Dann's list. Note that this Lc0 agrees with Cfish-dev as to what the position should be six plies in the future:

info depth 26 seldepth 84 time 3604808 nodes 74943920 score cp 88 hashfull 337 nps 20789 tbhits 0 pv a1c1 g4h5 f1g2 h5g6 d2c4 f7f6 c2b3 g6f7 b3b1 b8a7 e3e4 f5e4 g2e4 g8g7 e4h7 e8e1 c1e1 c8g4 c4e3 d5e3 f2e3 d8e8 h7f5 g4f3 f5e4 f3g4 e4f5 g4f3 f5e4 f3g4 e4g2 f7g6 b1b2 g4c8 e1f1 a7c5 b4c5 g6d3 f1e1 d3e4 a3a4 c8d7 a4a5 e8e7 b2f2 e4g2 g1g2 e7e4 h2h3 d7d5 g2h2 d5e6 g3g4 e6b3 f2d2 g7f7 h2g3 e4e8 g3f2 f7g7

(Cfish-dev suggested a1c1 g4h5 d2c4 h5g6 f1g2 f7f6 c2b2 b8a7 a3a4 g6f7 c5d3 c8d7 c4a5 d7c7 d3c5 d8b8 a5c4 b8d8 b2d2 d5e7 c4a5 d8b8 c1b1 g8g7 e1c1 e8c8 a5c4 c8d8 d2e2 h7h5 b4b5 a6b5 a4b5 a7c5 d4c5 f7c4 c1c4 c7e5 h2h4 g7g6 h4g5 f6g5 f2f4 g5f4 g3f4 e5e6 b5c6 e7c6 g2c6 b7c6 b1b8 d8b8 c4d4 g6g7 d4d6 b8b1 g1h2.)

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by Raphexon » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:07 pm

What is a good long think?

I'm going to test "1bqrr1k1/1p3p1p/p1p5/2Nn1pp1/1P1P2b1/P3P1P1/2QN1P1P/R3RBK1 w" overnight with my Raspberry Pi3B.

Maybe it will find Qb2.

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Re: Out of the Kai 450 positions, 99 not found by SF

Post by zullil » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:45 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:15 pm
Kai has published some very interesting test sets recently, I think probably based on the analysis of LC0.
These are the 99 positions out of Kai's 450 that Stockfish does not find, even after a good, long think.
The move suggested by Kai's tests is found in field c3.

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1bqrr1k1/1p3p1p/p1p5/2Nn1pp1/1P1P2b1/P3P1P1/2QN1P1P/R3RBK1 w - - acd 43; acs 6120; bm Rac1; c3 "Qb2"; cce 0; ce 81; id "midgames.151"; pm Rac1; pv Rac1 Bc7;
...


So according to Lc0 (320x24.J13-swa-410000):

info depth 29 seldepth 84 time 9781476 nodes 187912469 score cp 88 hashfull 786 nps 19211 tbhits 0 pv f1g2 h7h6 a1c1 f5f4 e3e4 d5e7 c2c3 b7b6 c5b3 c8e6 d2c4 g4h3 g2h1 b8a7 a3a4 b6b5 a4b5 a6b5 c4a5 e6d7 e1d1 h3g4 d1d2 g4e6 h1g2 a7b6 d2d1 e6g4 d1d3 g4e6 d3d2 e6h3 g2h1 h3e6 h1g2 b6a7 d2d3 a7b6 c3d2 e6b3 a5b3 e7g6 c1c3 d7d6 e4e5 d6b4 g2c6 e8f8 c6f3 g8g7 c3c6 b4d2 d3d2 d8b8 f3e4 f4g3 h2g3 g6e7 c6d6 f8d8 g1g2 g5g4 d2a2 d8d6 e5d6 e7g6 b3c5 g6f8 a2a6 b5b4 e4d5 h6h5 g2f1 g7f6 f1e2 b6c5 d4c5

At this point, my system became barely responsive and I forced Lc0 to abort the search. Although Lc0's log file indicated that my 128 GB of RAM should have sufficed for 324000000 nodes, and despite having set Lc0's RAMLimitMB to 96000, the engine had already used up all my RAM. Lesson learned---Lc0's memory handling isn't graceful.

So is the best move here Qb2, Rac1 or Bg2? Or maybe something else? My point is that naming a single "best" move in this position seems a bit problematic.

Here are the move stats from the log file at the end of the search:

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0813 15:12:25.253493 140293766631872 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:712] Stopping search due to `stop` uci command.
0813 15:12:25.316017 140293038008064 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << info depth 29 seldepth 84 time 9781476 nodes 187912469 score cp 88 hashfull 786 nps 19211 tbhits 0 pv f1g2 h7h6 a1c1 f5f4 e3e4 d5e7 c2c3 b7b6 c5b3 c8e6 d2c4 g4h3 g2h1 b8a7 a3a4 b6b5 a4b5 a6b5 c4a5 e6d7 e1d1 h3g4 d1d2 g4e6 h1g2 a7b6 d2d1 e6g4 d1d3 g4e6 d3d2 e6h3 g2h1 h3e6 h1g2 b6a7 d2d3 a7b6 c3d2 e6b3 a5b3 e7g6 c1c3 d7d6 e4e5 d6b4 g2c6 e8f8 c6f3 g8g7 c3c6 b4d2 d3d2 d8b8 f3e4 f4g3 h2g3 g6e7 c6d6 f8d8 g1g2 g5g4 d2a2 d8d6 e5d6 e7g6 b3c5 g6f8 a2a6 b5b4 e4d5 h6h5 g2f1 g7f6 f1e2 b6c5 d4c5
0813 15:12:25.492291 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:290] === Move stats:
0813 15:12:25.492641 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2e4  (266 ) N:     915 (+ 0) (P:  0.43%) (Q: -0.98883) (D:  0.007) (U: 1.38568) (Q+U:  0.39685) (V: -0.9944) 
0813 15:12:25.492651 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c3  (259 ) N:    1035 (+ 0) (P:  0.49%) (Q: -0.97355) (D:  0.016) (U: 1.36830) (Q+U:  0.39475) (V: -0.9859) 
0813 15:12:25.492657 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e6  (975 ) N:    1035 (+ 0) (P:  0.49%) (Q: -0.98061) (D:  0.013) (U: 1.37691) (Q+U:  0.39630) (V: -0.9969) 
0813 15:12:25.492663 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2e4  (294 ) N:    1094 (+ 0) (P:  0.51%) (Q: -0.97299) (D:  0.019) (U: 1.36839) (Q+U:  0.39540) (V: -0.9795) 
0813 15:12:25.492668 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2f5  (268 ) N:    1132 (+ 0) (P:  0.54%) (Q: -0.99699) (D:  0.002) (U: 1.39384) (Q+U:  0.39685) (V: -0.9974) 
0813 15:12:25.492680 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d7  (979 ) N:    1157 (+ 0) (P:  0.54%) (Q: -0.96678) (D:  0.020) (U: 1.36134) (Q+U:  0.39456) (V: -0.9947) 
0813 15:12:25.492686 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1b5  (141 ) N:    1218 (+ 0) (P:  0.58%) (Q: -0.98898) (D:  0.008) (U: 1.38513) (Q+U:  0.39615) (V: -0.9930) 
0813 15:12:25.492691 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1h3  (138 ) N:    1224 (+ 0) (P:  0.57%) (Q: -0.96771) (D:  0.018) (U: 1.36242) (Q+U:  0.39471) (V: -0.8971) 
0813 15:12:25.492696 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5e4  (963 ) N:    1227 (+ 0) (P:  0.57%) (Q: -0.96952) (D:  0.019) (U: 1.36409) (Q+U:  0.39457) (V: -0.9674) 
0813 15:12:25.492701 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a6  (971 ) N:    1292 (+ 0) (P:  0.55%) (Q: -0.86226) (D:  0.082) (U: 1.24981) (Q+U:  0.38755) (V: -0.0723) 
0813 15:12:25.492709 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d1  (248 ) N:    1439 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.97568) (D:  0.016) (U: 1.37075) (Q+U:  0.39508) (V: -0.9846) 
0813 15:12:25.492714 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h4  (403 ) N:    1554 (+ 0) (P:  0.63%) (Q: -0.79827) (D:  0.139) (U: 1.18083) (Q+U:  0.38257) (V: -0.6231) 
0813 15:12:25.492719 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1a6  (143 ) N:    1695 (+ 0) (P:  0.76%) (Q: -0.91954) (D:  0.029) (U: 1.31077) (Q+U:  0.39123) (V: -0.1201) 
0813 15:12:25.492724 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1d1  (100 ) N:    1768 (+ 0) (P:  0.44%) (Q: -0.37866) (D:  0.401) (U: 0.73138) (Q+U:  0.35272) (V: -0.6482) 
0813 15:12:25.492729 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f4  (351 ) N:    1796 (+ 0) (P:  0.81%) (Q: -0.92111) (D:  0.058) (U: 1.31278) (Q+U:  0.39167) (V: -0.8406) 
0813 15:12:25.492734 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2f3  (290 ) N:    1811 (+ 0) (P:  0.83%) (Q: -0.94963) (D:  0.030) (U: 1.34314) (Q+U:  0.39351) (V: -0.8737) 
0813 15:12:25.492739 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1e2  (106 ) N:    2349 (+ 0) (P:  0.64%) (Q: -0.43859) (D:  0.369) (U: 0.79559) (Q+U:  0.35700) (V: -0.7073) 
0813 15:12:25.492744 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1d1  (2   ) N:    2451 (+ 0) (P:  0.61%) (Q: -0.37685) (D:  0.403) (U: 0.72931) (Q+U:  0.35246) (V: -0.4745) 
0813 15:12:25.492749 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b7  (977 ) N:    3308 (+ 0) (P:  0.98%) (Q: -0.50270) (D:  0.318) (U: 0.86420) (Q+U:  0.36150) (V:  0.1978) 
0813 15:12:25.492754 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] b4b5  (695 ) N:    3868 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.20704) (D:  0.523) (U: 0.54735) (Q+U:  0.34032) (V: -0.1239) 
0813 15:12:25.492758 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1b1  (98  ) N:    4127 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.14539) (D:  0.486) (U: 0.48101) (Q+U:  0.33561) (V: -0.2469) 
0813 15:12:25.492763 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a3a4  (425 ) N:    6097 (+ 0) (P:  1.11%) (Q: -0.19099) (D:  0.513) (U: 0.53020) (Q+U:  0.33921) (V:  0.0022) 
0813 15:12:25.492768 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5a4  (959 ) N:    7278 (+ 0) (P:  0.94%) (Q: -0.04695) (D:  0.552) (U: 0.37571) (Q+U:  0.32876) (V: -0.1229) 
0813 15:12:25.492773 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b1  (274 ) N:    7525 (+ 0) (P:  0.86%) (Q: -0.00821) (D:  0.567) (U: 0.33420) (Q+U:  0.32599) (V: -0.1206) 
0813 15:12:25.492778 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e1c1  (99  ) N:    7765 (+ 0) (P:  0.88%) (Q: -0.00594) (D:  0.535) (U: 0.33176) (Q+U:  0.32582) (V: -0.1676) 
0813 15:12:25.492783 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a4  (262 ) N:    8513 (+ 0) (P:  0.87%) (Q:  0.02576) (D:  0.565) (U: 0.29777) (Q+U:  0.32353) (V: -0.1564) 
0813 15:12:25.492788 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1a2  (7   ) N:   10032 (+ 0) (P:  1.06%) (Q:  0.01578) (D:  0.562) (U: 0.30847) (Q+U:  0.32425) (V: -0.1519) 
0813 15:12:25.492793 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1g2  (156 ) N:   10257 (+ 0) (P:  1.14%) (Q:  0.00089) (D:  0.547) (U: 0.32442) (Q+U:  0.32531) (V: -0.2303) 
0813 15:12:25.492801 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5b3  (955 ) N:   11188 (+ 0) (P:  1.15%) (Q:  0.02357) (D:  0.569) (U: 0.30012) (Q+U:  0.32368) (V: -0.0298) 
0813 15:12:25.492807 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] g1h1  (153 ) N:   11715 (+ 0) (P:  1.23%) (Q:  0.01654) (D:  0.561) (U: 0.30765) (Q+U:  0.32419) (V: -0.0985) 
0813 15:12:25.492812 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2a2  (250 ) N:   11730 (+ 0) (P:  0.99%) (Q:  0.07258) (D:  0.519) (U: 0.24757) (Q+U:  0.32015) (V: -0.0303) 
0813 15:12:25.492817 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b1  (246 ) N:   14539 (+ 0) (P:  0.96%) (Q:  0.12397) (D:  0.541) (U: 0.19246) (Q+U:  0.31643) (V: -0.0847) 
0813 15:12:25.492822 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c5d3  (957 ) N:   16035 (+ 0) (P:  2.32%) (Q: -0.09078) (D:  0.580) (U: 0.42270) (Q+U:  0.33192) (V:  0.0021) 
0813 15:12:25.492827 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1e2  (130 ) N:   17758 (+ 0) (P:  2.18%) (Q: -0.03122) (D:  0.539) (U: 0.35884) (Q+U:  0.32762) (V:  0.0088) 
0813 15:12:25.492831 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c1  (247 ) N:   18180 (+ 0) (P:  1.20%) (Q:  0.12290) (D:  0.529) (U: 0.19359) (Q+U:  0.31649) (V:  0.0084) 
0813 15:12:25.492836 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2c4  (264 ) N:   18601 (+ 0) (P:  1.26%) (Q:  0.11912) (D:  0.567) (U: 0.19766) (Q+U:  0.31678) (V: -0.0481) 
0813 15:12:25.492841 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2b3  (286 ) N:   19327 (+ 0) (P:  1.32%) (Q:  0.11668) (D:  0.515) (U: 0.20027) (Q+U:  0.31695) (V:  0.0385) 
0813 15:12:25.492846 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f2f3  (346 ) N:   20115 (+ 0) (P:  1.75%) (Q:  0.06660) (D:  0.439) (U: 0.25394) (Q+U:  0.32055) (V:  0.0634) 
0813 15:12:25.492851 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1b1  (0   ) N:   24585 (+ 0) (P:  1.59%) (Q:  0.12710) (D:  0.545) (U: 0.18909) (Q+U:  0.31619) (V:  0.0081) 
0813 15:12:25.492856 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2d3  (260 ) N:   27219 (+ 0) (P:  1.82%) (Q:  0.12163) (D:  0.557) (U: 0.19496) (Q+U:  0.31659) (V:  0.0437) 
0813 15:12:25.492864 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1d3  (134 ) N:   30167 (+ 0) (P:  3.06%) (Q:  0.02705) (D:  0.552) (U: 0.29638) (Q+U:  0.32343) (V:  0.0396) 
0813 15:12:25.492869 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b3  (258 ) N:   37255 (+ 0) (P:  2.05%) (Q:  0.15341) (D:  0.544) (U: 0.16088) (Q+U:  0.31429) (V:  0.0594) 
0813 15:12:25.492874 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1c4  (139 ) N:   41276 (+ 0) (P:  3.82%) (Q:  0.05135) (D:  0.550) (U: 0.27031) (Q+U:  0.32166) (V: -0.0385) 
0813 15:12:25.492879 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] e3e4  (551 ) N:   73689 (+ 0) (P:  7.44%) (Q:  0.02811) (D:  0.622) (U: 0.29520) (Q+U:  0.32331) (V:  0.1867) 
0813 15:12:25.492884 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] h2h3  (400 ) N:  113789 (+ 0) (P: 11.32%) (Q:  0.03235) (D:  0.547) (U: 0.29064) (Q+U:  0.32299) (V:  0.0643) 
0813 15:12:25.492888 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] d2c4  (292 ) N:  218896 (+ 0) (P:  7.69%) (Q:  0.20766) (D:  0.503) (U: 0.10264) (Q+U:  0.31030) (V:  0.0786) 
0813 15:12:25.492893 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] c2b2  (251 ) N: 8789270 (+ 0) (P:  2.05%) (Q:  0.26788) (D:  0.500) (U: 0.00068) (Q+U:  0.26856) (V:  0.0841) 
0813 15:12:25.492898 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] a1c1  (1   ) N: 74358292 (+ 0) (P: 10.15%) (Q:  0.29084) (D:  0.433) (U: 0.00040) (Q+U:  0.29124) (V:  0.0846) 
0813 15:12:25.492903 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:291] f1g2  (132 ) N: 103943880 (+191) (P: 14.75%) (Q:  0.30155) (D:  0.434) (U: 0.00041) (Q+U:  0.30197) (V:  0.0754) 
0813 15:12:25.492908 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:294] --- Opponent moves after: f1g2
0813 15:12:25.494013 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4f3  (1106) N:    1743 (+ 0) (P:  0.59%) (Q: -0.99087) (D:  0.006) (U: 0.69361) (Q+U: -0.29726) (V: -0.9960) 
0813 15:12:25.494029 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4e2  (1109) N:    1895 (+ 0) (P:  0.63%) (Q: -0.97555) (D:  0.018) (U: 0.67848) (Q+U: -0.29707) (V: -0.9925) 
0813 15:12:25.494035 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4d1  (1113) N:    1906 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.99629) (D:  0.003) (U: 0.69921) (Q+U: -0.29708) (V: -0.9917) 
0813 15:12:25.494040 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b4  (759 ) N:    1984 (+ 0) (P:  0.65%) (Q: -0.97370) (D:  0.020) (U: 0.67647) (Q+U: -0.29722) (V: -0.8829) 
0813 15:12:25.494045 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f4  (763 ) N:    2010 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.97693) (D:  0.013) (U: 0.67960) (Q+U: -0.29733) (V: -0.9557) 
0813 15:12:25.494050 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8d7  (57  ) N:    2023 (+ 0) (P:  0.68%) (Q: -0.98586) (D:  0.010) (U: 0.68878) (Q+U: -0.29708) (V: -0.9898) 
0813 15:12:25.494055 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e5  (115 ) N:    2081 (+ 0) (P:  0.69%) (Q: -0.97709) (D:  0.016) (U: 0.67994) (Q+U: -0.29715) (V: -0.9942) 
0813 15:12:25.494060 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8g3  (43  ) N:    2137 (+ 0) (P:  0.67%) (Q: -0.94027) (D:  0.032) (U: 0.64308) (Q+U: -0.29719) (V: -0.5973) 
0813 15:12:25.494065 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c3  (765 ) N:    2144 (+ 0) (P:  0.71%) (Q: -0.97945) (D:  0.014) (U: 0.68224) (Q+U: -0.29721) (V: -0.9907) 
0813 15:12:25.494070 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8f4  (41  ) N:    2169 (+ 0) (P:  0.71%) (Q: -0.97150) (D:  0.018) (U: 0.67438) (Q+U: -0.29711) (V: -0.9948) 
0813 15:12:25.494075 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d7  (81  ) N:    2193 (+ 0) (P:  0.70%) (Q: -0.95128) (D:  0.036) (U: 0.65415) (Q+U: -0.29713) (V: -0.9492) 
0813 15:12:25.494080 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e4  (118 ) N:    2207 (+ 0) (P:  0.72%) (Q: -0.96799) (D:  0.023) (U: 0.67076) (Q+U: -0.29723) (V: -0.9849) 
0813 15:12:25.494085 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8e6  (63  ) N:    2234 (+ 0) (P:  0.74%) (Q: -0.97580) (D:  0.016) (U: 0.67860) (Q+U: -0.29720) (V: -0.9912) 
0813 15:12:25.494090 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8e5  (39  ) N:    2240 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.98010) (D:  0.014) (U: 0.68272) (Q+U: -0.29738) (V: -0.9937) 
0813 15:12:25.494095 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e3  (119 ) N:    2255 (+ 0) (P:  0.74%) (Q: -0.97310) (D:  0.014) (U: 0.67575) (Q+U: -0.29734) (V: -0.8549) 
0813 15:12:25.494100 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h3  (1108) N:    2307 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.96068) (D:  0.023) (U: 0.66358) (Q+U: -0.29710) (V: -0.6674) 
0813 15:12:25.494105 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e3  (767 ) N:    2442 (+ 0) (P:  0.79%) (Q: -0.95915) (D:  0.018) (U: 0.66202) (Q+U: -0.29713) (V: -0.7874) 
0813 15:12:25.494110 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e6  (111 ) N:    2497 (+ 0) (P:  0.75%) (Q: -0.91241) (D:  0.065) (U: 0.61530) (Q+U: -0.29711) (V: -0.9039) 
0813 15:12:25.494115 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] a6a5  (425 ) N:    5134 (+ 0) (P:  0.94%) (Q: -0.67295) (D:  0.242) (U: 0.37581) (Q+U: -0.29713) (V: -0.3559) 
0813 15:12:25.494120 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] c8c7  (56  ) N:    6659 (+ 0) (P:  1.55%) (Q: -0.77603) (D:  0.158) (U: 0.47886) (Q+U: -0.29717) (V: -0.2700) 
0813 15:12:25.494125 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d8d6  (86  ) N:   10605 (+ 0) (P:  1.34%) (Q: -0.55728) (D:  0.275) (U: 0.26016) (Q+U: -0.29712) (V: -0.2046) 
0813 15:12:25.494129 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h5  (403 ) N:   11468 (+ 0) (P:  2.73%) (Q: -0.78578) (D:  0.143) (U: 0.48867) (Q+U: -0.29711) (V: -0.1738) 
0813 15:12:25.494134 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b5  (234 ) N:   11723 (+ 0) (P:  1.02%) (Q: -0.47604) (D:  0.377) (U: 0.17897) (Q+U: -0.29708) (V: -0.3742) 
0813 15:12:25.494139 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5c7  (743 ) N:   23420 (+ 0) (P:  1.22%) (Q: -0.40790) (D:  0.413) (U: 0.10708) (Q+U: -0.30082) (V: -0.2279) 
0813 15:12:25.494148 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5b6  (747 ) N:   35960 (+ 0) (P:  1.24%) (Q: -0.37811) (D:  0.442) (U: 0.07070) (Q+U: -0.30741) (V: -0.2503) 
0813 15:12:25.494153 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8f8  (152 ) N:   45987 (+ 0) (P:  1.72%) (Q: -0.38296) (D:  0.424) (U: 0.07664) (Q+U: -0.30633) (V: -0.1929) 
0813 15:12:25.494158 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8f8  (101 ) N:   60725 (+ 0) (P:  1.34%) (Q: -0.35751) (D:  0.434) (U: 0.04544) (Q+U: -0.31207) (V: -0.2535) 
0813 15:12:25.494163 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f7f6  (346 ) N:   94477 (+ 0) (P:  1.38%) (Q: -0.34487) (D:  0.411) (U: 0.02993) (Q+U: -0.31493) (V: -0.1473) 
0813 15:12:25.494168 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8h8  (153 ) N:  148641 (+ 0) (P:  2.97%) (Q: -0.35393) (D:  0.436) (U: 0.04102) (Q+U: -0.31290) (V: -0.1244) 
0813 15:12:25.494173 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5e7  (745 ) N:  150224 (+ 0) (P:  1.42%) (Q: -0.33630) (D:  0.468) (U: 0.01943) (Q+U: -0.31687) (V: -0.1812) 
0813 15:12:25.494177 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8c7  (32  ) N:  179309 (+ 0) (P:  2.01%) (Q: -0.33917) (D:  0.448) (U: 0.02296) (Q+U: -0.31621) (V: -0.1534) 
0813 15:12:25.494182 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b7b6  (230 ) N:  220930 (+ 0) (P:  2.90%) (Q: -0.34242) (D:  0.416) (U: 0.02693) (Q+U: -0.31549) (V: -0.1907) 
0813 15:12:25.494187 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8a7  (30  ) N:  354937 (+ 0) (P:  1.77%) (Q: -0.32880) (D:  0.455) (U: 0.01024) (Q+U: -0.31856) (V: -0.1647) 
0813 15:12:25.494192 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] d5f6  (751 ) N: 2205827 (+ 0) (P:  2.71%) (Q: -0.32251) (D:  0.443) (U: 0.00253) (Q+U: -0.31998) (V: -0.1147) 
0813 15:12:25.494197 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g8g7  (156 ) N: 2235545 (+ 0) (P: 11.14%) (Q: -0.32879) (D:  0.436) (U: 0.01023) (Q+U: -0.31856) (V: -0.0820) 
0813 15:12:25.494202 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] f5f4  (830 ) N: 2528092 (+ 0) (P: 16.47%) (Q: -0.33136) (D:  0.435) (U: 0.01338) (Q+U: -0.31798) (V: -0.1165) 
0813 15:12:25.494207 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] e8e7  (106 ) N: 2606919 (+ 0) (P:  7.71%) (Q: -0.32540) (D:  0.457) (U: 0.00608) (Q+U: -0.31932) (V: -0.0695) 
0813 15:12:25.494212 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] g4h5  (1097) N: 6045467 (+ 0) (P: 12.10%) (Q: -0.32380) (D:  0.455) (U: 0.00411) (Q+U: -0.31969) (V: -0.1343) 
0813 15:12:25.494217 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] b8d6  (37  ) N: 12139690 (+ 0) (P:  1.61%) (Q: -0.32067) (D:  0.466) (U: 0.00027) (Q+U: -0.32039) (V: -0.1702) 
0813 15:12:25.494222 140293038008064 ../../src/mcts/search.cc:299] h7h6  (400 ) N: 74783673 (+191) (P: 10.12%) (Q: -0.29734) (D:  0.436) (U: 0.00028) (Q+U: -0.29707) (V: -0.0552) 
0813 15:12:25.494437 140293038008064 ../../src/chess/uciloop.cc:218] << bestmove f1g2 ponder h7h6

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