Tom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 amThe two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser
MRI - Match Result Inspector
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
It does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:22 pmTom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 amThe two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
It sounds convenient unless you have 500 files you want to process.Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:56 pmIt does easily with wb/banksia/cutechess/cute-cli/arena pgns with simple regex one second search+ replace.Dann Corbit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:22 pmTom's game analyzer does not work with as many formats. But the graph feature is nice,Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:27 amThe two points above exist already in Toms Game Analyser and it even has a GUI and eval graphs.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... er#p750330
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.p ... e+analyser
(only CB and probably ChessGUI pgn would require a little bit more work)
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
Does Score Drop detect drops in more than 1 ply? I wanted to be able to set the ply window to detect the drop.
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
UPDATE
Match SF11 vs Lc0 (various versions) taken from "fastgm" 16 cpu tournament, 2500 games.
http://rebel13.nl/output.htm
Main change, added EPD in html and in files.
PGN''s and EPD's attached.
I guess this addresses most of the raised issues for the moment.
Interesting to see Stockfish being superior in the mid-game while Lc0 is on par in the endgame, I expected it the other way around. Ha! what do I know about computer chess.
Match SF11 vs Lc0 (various versions) taken from "fastgm" 16 cpu tournament, 2500 games.
http://rebel13.nl/output.htm
Main change, added EPD in html and in files.
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Processed games : 2500 All.epd : 38
Suspect_openings.pgn : 1 Suspect_openings.epd : 1
Crazy_games.pgn : 9 Crazy_games.epd : 9
Possible_missed_wins.pgn: 20 Possible_missed_wins.epd: 20
Drop_in_score.pgn : 8 Drop_in_score.epd : 8
Lost_games.pgn : 0 Lost_games.epd : 0
I guess this addresses most of the raised issues for the moment.
Interesting to see Stockfish being superior in the mid-game while Lc0 is on par in the endgame, I expected it the other way around. Ha! what do I know about computer chess.
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
Even Stockfish has bugs.Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.Code: Select all
115... Nc2 +9.92/29
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
[Event "CCRL 40/15"]
[Site "CCRL"]
[Date "2020.01.19"]
[Round "703.2.691"]
[White "Komodo 13.2.5 MCTS 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 11 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Robatsch defence"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[WhiteElo "3282"]
[BlackElo "3432"]
1. e4 {+0.00/1 0s} g6 {+0.00/1 0s} 2. d4 {+0.00/1 0s} Bg7 {+0.00/1 0s} 3. Nc3
{+0.00/1 0s} c6 {+0.00/1 0s} 4. Be3 {+0.00/1 0s} Qb6 {+0.00/1 0s} 5. Qd2
{+0.73/13 34s} Qxb2 {(d6) -0.07/28 37s} 6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s} Qa3 {(Qa3)
+0.00/28 19s} 7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s} h5 {(Nf6) +0.10/27 44s} 8. e5 {(e5)
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Can someone tell me which interface produces this kind of PGN?
And about the move comment:
6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s}
7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s}
What does the move (Rb1 / Nf3) mean in the move comment?
[Site "CCRL"]
[Date "2020.01.19"]
[Round "703.2.691"]
[White "Komodo 13.2.5 MCTS 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 11 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B06"]
[Opening "Robatsch defence"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[WhiteElo "3282"]
[BlackElo "3432"]
1. e4 {+0.00/1 0s} g6 {+0.00/1 0s} 2. d4 {+0.00/1 0s} Bg7 {+0.00/1 0s} 3. Nc3
{+0.00/1 0s} c6 {+0.00/1 0s} 4. Be3 {+0.00/1 0s} Qb6 {+0.00/1 0s} 5. Qd2
{+0.73/13 34s} Qxb2 {(d6) -0.07/28 37s} 6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s} Qa3 {(Qa3)
+0.00/28 19s} 7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s} h5 {(Nf6) +0.10/27 44s} 8. e5 {(e5)
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Can someone tell me which interface produces this kind of PGN?
And about the move comment:
6. Rb1 {(Rb1) +0.28/11 24s}
7. h4 {(Nf3) +0.39/11 34s}
What does the move (Rb1 / Nf3) mean in the move comment?
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
Of course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:19 pmEven Stockfish has bugs.Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.Code: Select all
115... Nc2 +9.92/29
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
Anyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see ;-)
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Re: MRI - Match Result Inspector
The alternative would be cutechess, unlikely.Guenther wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:25 pmOf course, but we don't know, if it was an SF bug in this case.Rebel wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:19 pmEven Stockfish has bugs.Guenther wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:47 am [d]8/8/k7/1pK5/p1p5/B1P5/1P6/4n3 b - - 33 115It is impossible for me to reproduce that incredible score with SF8.Code: Select all
115... Nc2 +9.92/29
Neither with 5men Syzygy nor with no TBS at all. The score is always between 0.17 and 0.33 for all depths up to 60.
Sure, I asked for feedbackAnyhow, you adressed the point given and renamed that category to 'possible missed win' I see
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