mmt Vs. Ovyron (G4 D5 BG2)

[Zenmastur]

Do you know what that means? It means Ovyron will spend weeks trying to find it!

No, remember what my point was: fastest mates are useless, once the game is decided you have no reason to shorten the game.

Yes, I remember your point.

Do you remember mine?

[Ovyron]

Nf2

35 3:53 -7.78 58...Ng6 59.Ned3 Nf4 60.Nxf4 Qxf4 61.Qe2 Re3 62.Qh5 Kf8 63.Qh8+ Kf7 64.Qa8 Rf3 65.Qa2+ Kg6 66.Qe2 Re3 67.Qc2 Kh7 68.Qd2 Qf3 69.Qc2 Kg8 70.Qd1 Qd5 71.Qh5 Kf8 (587.452.731) 2516 TB:678.571

1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 Bxg4 3. c4 c6 4. Qb3 e6 5. Qxb7 Nd7 6. Nc3 Ne7 7. cxd5 exd5 8. d4 Rb8 9. Qa6 Rb6 10. Qd3 Ng6 11. h3 Be6 12. Nf3 Bd6 13. h4 h5 14. b3 Nf6 15. Bg5 O-O 16. e3 Re8 17. Kf1 Bg4 18. Ne1 Bb4 19. Na4 Rb8 20. Nc2 Be7 21. f3 Be6 22. Nc5 Bc8 23. Kf2 Nd7 24. Ne6 Qa5 25. Bxe7 Rxe7 26. b4 Qb6 27. Ng5 Ba6 28. Qa3 Rbe8 29. Bf1 Bxf1 30. Raxf1 Qc7 31. Qd3 a5 32. a3 axb4 33. axb4 Qd6 34. Rfg1 Nb6 35. Qf5 Nf8 36. Re1 Nc4 37. Nh3 Ra7 38. Qxh5 Ra2 39. Re2 Qe7 40. e4 dxe4 41. fxe4 Qd7 42. Ng5 f6 43. Nf3 Nd6 44. Nfe1 Rxe4 45. Qf3 Qe6 46. Rxe4 Nxe4+ 47. Kg1 Rb2 48. Rh2 Rb3 49. Nd3 f5 50. Qf1 Ng3 51. Qd1 Qc4 52. Nce1 Ne4 53. Ne5 Qc3 54. Rg2 Qe3+ 55. Kf1 Ng3+ 56. Rxg3 Qxg3 57. N5d3 Rc3 58. Nf2 Ng6

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[Ovyron]

Yes, I remember your point.

Do you remember mine?

Not really, did it have something to do with me getting faster hardware? I think you'll have to remind me your point when we play an actual game against each other and you can't play it at a higher level than me

[Zenmastur]

Yes, I remember your point.

Do you remember mine?

Not really, did it have something to do with me getting faster hardware?

Just what I thought. You don't have a clue what my point was!

I think you'll have to remind me your point when we play an actual game against each other and you can't play it at a higher level than me

Well, if all your opponents have to play 1.g4 I guess we'll never find out, will we?

So, let's play an "real" game and find out.

[Ovyron]

So, let's play an "real" game and find out.

I was thinking about some hardware challenge, you get the white pieces, and if you beat me, I'll upgrade my damn hardware (because you'd have shown that it isn't enough to draw you.) I'd try my best to get the game into positions where my depth and methods suffice for a draw, you'd try to get the game into ones where they don't.

How does that sound? When do we start?

[Zenmastur]

So, let's play an "real" game and find out.

I was thinking about some hardware challenge, you get the white pieces, and if you beat me, I'll upgrade my damn hardware (because you'd have shown that it isn't enough to draw you.) I'd try my best to get the game into positions where my depth and methods suffice for a draw, you'd try to get the game into ones where they don't.

How does that sound? When do we start?

It's not going to make any difference to me if you upgrade your hardware or not. It doesn't cost me any time if you have slow hardware.

But, the truth is, you could do so much more with even a "cheap" modern system compared to what you have know. You're just TOO stubborn for your own good. Try it! You might EVEN like it.

What opening do you want to play?

If you do decide to upgrade and need help with anything ... I know a little about building PCs and EVEN how to build them for cheap if you're on a tight budget. Just PM me.

[Ovyron]

What opening do you want to play?

In real games we play move by move, you have to make a choice on the opening position about what is the first move that you can make that'd maximize the chances of achieving your objective, without having any idea of what defense I'm going to play against it. Then I make a choice about my defensive move, without having any idea about what attack you're going to play against it. And so on.

After the dust settles we get to see what opening we reached, instead of arranging to play an opening before the game starts. Let me know if you want me to create the game thread.

[Zenmastur]

What opening do you want to play?

In real games we play move by move, you have to make a choice on the opening position about what is the first move that you can make that'd maximize the chances of achieving your objective, without having any idea of what defense I'm going to play against it. Then I make a choice about my defensive move, without having any idea about what attack you're going to play against it. And so on.

After the dust settles we get to see what opening we reached, instead of arranging to play an opening before the game starts. Let me know if you want me to create the game thread.

OK, I'll start one.

[jp]

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Komodo 13.2, depth 29: -4.48.

[mmt]

1. g4 d5 2. Bg2 Bxg4 3. c4 c6 4. Qb3 e6 5. Qxb7 Nd7 6. Nc3 Ne7 7. cxd5 exd5 8. d4 Rb8 9. Qa6 Rb6 10. Qd3 Ng6 11. h3 Be6 12. Nf3 Bd6 13. h4 h5 14. b3 Nf6 15. Bg5 O-O 16. e3 Re8 17. Kf1 Bg4 18. Ne1 Bb4 19. Na4 Rb8 20. Nc2 Be7 21. f3 Be6 22. Nc5 Bc8 23. Kf2 Nd7 24. Ne6 Qa5 25. Bxe7 Rxe7 26. b4 Qb6 27. Ng5 Ba6 28. Qa3 Rbe8 29. Bf1 Bxf1 30. Raxf1 Qc7 31. Qd3 a5 32. a3 axb4 33. axb4 Qd6 34. Rfg1 Nb6 35. Qf5 Nf8 36. Re1 Nc4 37. Nh3 Ra7 38. Qxh5 Ra2 39. Re2 Qe7 40. e4 dxe4 41. fxe4 Qd7 42. Ng5 f6 43. Nf3 Nd6 44. Nfe1 Rxe4 45. Qf3 Qe6 46. Rxe4 Nxe4+ 47. Kg1 Rb2 48. Rh2 Rb3 49. Nd3 f5 50. Qf1 Ng3 51. Qd1 Qc4 52. Nce1 Ne4 53. Ne5 Qc3 54. Rg2 Qe3+ 55. Kf1 Ng3+ 56. Rxg3 Qxg3 57. N5d3 Rc3 58. Nf2 Ng6 59. d5

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