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Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:28 pm

I am guessing this image will not load, but it's worth a shot.
Nope, like I thought. No uploads at all any more.

Here is the image:
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... pid=585742
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by xr_a_y » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:34 am

Well TCEC is using more and more some big hardware, and this leads to the used of massively threaded engines and used of a huge hash table.
This is making some debugging (mainly hash table collision things) and tuning (mainly multi-threading stuff) necessary and TCEC crew is very helpful on those subjects, allowing for many test runs before and between real tournaments. A lot of engines were debugged collectively and this seems very good to me. Developers kindly helping each other all day long on december 31th is a good sign of a healthy community to me.

All of those downloadable little tourney are the results of all those testing session, and are probably some useful input for developers and some good games to view for everybody. Maybe a better display, putting test session apart from "real" tourney might be helpful.
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:54 am

I think it would be nice if they at least gave a description of what those files are.
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by xr_a_y » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:39 pm

After I reported your suggestion using the TCEC discord channel, a little sorting has been done to clarify things.
Feel free to discus with Aloril or Kan about this subject, they often react very quickly.

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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Jouni » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:32 am

Why are they now playing 100 long games with LCZeroCPU v0.24-n591215? Makes no sense at all. When is Premium league going to start?
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Branko Radovanovic » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:16 am

Jouni wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:32 am
Why are they now playing 100 long games with LCZeroCPU v0.24-n591215? Makes no sense at all. When is Premium league going to start?
Because things are not ready yet for the PD. It is supposed to start today (17 March).

Normally, when there is something unclear, unplanned or out of the ordinary, people ask about it in the chat. Trouble is, it tends to be the case almost all the time, and non-chatters are left frustrated because they don't understand what's going on or why. I'm sure chatters are a bit frustrated too, because the same questions repeat over and over again.

I wish there was a dedicated section named "News" on tcec-chess.com. A single sentence would suffice as a news item: e.g. "no, there will be no GPU League this season, contrary to announcements, because there are not enough engines" (another thing people are confused about and ask over and over).

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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Dann Corbit » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:54 pm

I am not able to use the chat.
I see an empty box where the chat should be.
I guess it is a firewall rule, but I am not sure about it
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by Jouni » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:36 pm

Finally it started, but: Game scheduling will be a modified format to minimize the costs associated with GPU leasing; All CPU/CPU games will be played first followed by the CPU/GPU, GPU/GPU games. BTW they should use SF11, because there is no progress in 2 months :) .
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Re: Speaking of TCEC, what is all this then?

Post by ernest » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:00 am

Jouni wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:36 pm
BTW they should use SF11
SF11 has bugs... (corrected in later devs)

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