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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by Tibono » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:55 pm

P.S.: you would also need the back in time lczero.exe for NN compatibility.
Also name the NN as command line parameter: -w 0076
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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by dkappe » Thu Apr 09, 2020 5:52 pm

Rather than jumping through hoops with an old lczero engine, simply try the small nets: 11258-16x2 distilled and tiny gyal (also 16x2). They can be used with the latest lc0 on cpu (or android).

https://github.com/dkappe/leela-chess-w ... d-Networks
https://github.com/dkappe/leela-chess-w ... i/Bad-Gyal

There’s a ton of nets on both pages, so you’ll have to scroll to find them. Tiny Gyal is a bit weaker, so maybe more in your range.

The distilled 16x2 plays around lichess 2200 at 4000 nodes (which is rather quick). You can give it a go here: https://lichess.org/@/leela2200

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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by Alexander Schmidt » Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:39 pm

Amstaff wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:53 am
Hello I'm looking for engines that play around 1800-2200 ELO and are not "dumbed down" by making obvious poor moves. Thanks in advance,
Gerald
I like to play vs. Leela zero nets. With the option Slowmover=0 it plays immediately, and you play simply against the neural net without any calculating. It plays very human like and even makes tactical blunders. Just finishing a won endgame is a pain, but it is up to you to resign :-)

You can chose between all kind of nets, I use the latest 128x10 net 591228, it is somewhere between 1600-1800 ELO, the latest 256x20 net 42850 is between 1800-2000 ELO. The 320x24 are currently trained are between 2000-2200 ELO.

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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by odyn1982 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:00 pm

I can't find 128x10 net 591228. Can you share a link to it? And thanks for great tips.

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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by Alexander Schmidt » Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:13 am

odyn1982 wrote:
Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:00 pm
I can't find 128x10 net 591228. Can you share a link to it? And thanks for great tips.
Typo... It is 591226...

Here you can find all official nets:
http://training.lczero.org/networks/?show_all=1

Here are some links to other interesting nets:
http://lczero.org/play/bestnets/

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Re: Which engines play the most human like at lower levels?

Post by Tibono » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:22 am

Hi,
another suggestion: CDrill 1800 + Morphy personnality. Nice work authored by F. Mosca, worth a try :wink:

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