Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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My Question is can Komodo 13 on a Samsung Galaxy 8+ beat Shredder 8 on my Computer ? Based on this old rating that I found on Chessbase Shredder 7 was rated 2768 and Shredder 8 probably around 2800. What would Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy 8+ approximately be? https://en.chessbase.com/post/shredder- ... r-rankings
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Yes, easily.
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Easy win for Komodo I'd have thought.
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Werewolf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:55 pm Easy win for Komodo I'd have thought.

[pgn]
[Event "Blitz:25'"]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "4/21/20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Shredder 8"]
[Black "Komodo 13 Samsung Galaxy S8+"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "97"]


{880MB, Shredder8.ctg} 1. g3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:18]} 2. c4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 3. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bc5 {
[%emt 0:00:36]} 4. Bg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:35]} 5. e3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 6. Nge2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {
[%emt 0:00:36]} 7. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bg4 {[%emt 0:00:45]} 8. h3 {
[%emt 0:00:28]} Bxe2 {[%emt 0:01:13]} 9. Nxe2 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Re8 {
[%emt 0:00:36]} 10. d4 {[%emt 0:00:07]} Bb6 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 11. dxe5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} dxe5 {[%emt 0:00:40]} 12. a3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxd1 {
[%emt 0:00:36]} 13. Rxd1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Na5 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 14. c5 {
[%emt 0:00:06]} Bxc5 {[%emt 0:01:04]} 15. b4 {[%emt 0:00:13]} Nb3 {
[%emt 0:00:39]} 16. Rb1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxc1 {[%emt 0:01:01]} 17. Rbxc1 {
[%emt 0:00:01]} Bb6 {[%emt 0:00:54]} 18. Bxb7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rad8 {
[%emt 0:00:41]} 19. Bc6 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Rxd1+ {[%emt 0:00:38]} 20. Rxd1 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Rb8 {[%emt 0:00:44]} 21. Rc1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rd8 {
[%emt 0:00:54]} 22. a4 {[%emt 0:00:35]} Rd2 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 23. Kf1 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} a5 {[%emt 0:00:42]} 24. bxa5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxa5 {
[%emt 0:00:08]} 25. Rb1 {[%emt 0:00:40]} Bb6 {[%emt 0:01:06]} 26. a5 {
[%emt 0:00:12]} Bc5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 27. Rb8+ {[%emt 0:00:25]} Bf8 {
[%emt 0:00:11]} 28. a6 {[%emt 0:00:10]} Ra2 {[%emt 0:00:55]} 29. Ra8 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} g5 {[%emt 0:00:44]} 30. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:27]} Ra1+ {
[%emt 0:00:37]} 31. Kg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} g4 {[%emt 0:00:36]} 32. Na4 {
[%emt 0:00:50]} Nd5 {[%emt 0:00:43]} 33. Rb8 {[%emt 0:00:25]} Ra2 {
[%emt 0:00:36]} 34. a7 {[%emt 0:00:42]} Nxe3+ {[%emt 0:00:37]} 35. Kg1 {
[%emt 0:00:30]} Ra1+ {[%emt 0:00:41]} 36. Kh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Ra2 {
[%emt 0:00:39]} 37. hxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxg4+ {[%emt 0:00:37]} 38. Kg1 {
[%emt 0:00:20]} Nxf2 {[%emt 0:00:38]} 39. a8=Q {[%emt 0:00:31]} Nh3+ {
[%emt 0:00:37]} 40. Kf1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:36]} 41. Rxf8 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} Rd2 {[%emt 0:00:52]} 42. Nc5 {[%emt 0:00:59]} Rd1+ {
[%emt 0:00:40]} 43. Ke2 {[%emt 0:00:28]} Rd4 {[%emt 0:00:37]} 44. Rg8+ {
[%emt 0:00:05]} Kf6 {[%emt 0:00:06]} 45. Ne4+ {[%emt 0:00:06]} Rxe4+ {
[%emt 0:00:05]} 46. Bxe4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Ng1+ {[%emt 0:00:05]} 47. Kd1 {
[%emt 0:00:05]} h5 {[%emt 0:00:05]} 48. Qd8+ {[%emt 0:00:05]} Ke6 {
[%emt 0:00:07]} 49. Re8# {[%emt 0:00:07]} 1-0[/pgn]
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Try with pawn odds.
Or play 40'+10" Shredder vs 10"+1" Komodo
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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yurikvelo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:57 pm Try with pawn odds.
Or play 40'+10" Shredder vs 10"+1" Komodo
You got it all wrong Shredder 8 on my system is much much stronger than Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy S8+, Check how deep my Dell All in One Computer can calculate, whereas Komodo does NOT even calculate half af much on my Android. Komodo 13 is the one that needs a pawn odds from Shredder 8. Which for the Next match I will remove the b2 pawn from shredder 8:

Check how deep Shredder 8 can analyze any position :
[Event "Computer chess game"]



Komodo-10-64bit:
1 00:00 30 30k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+
2 00:00 75 75k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8
3 00:00 242 242k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+
4 00:00 430 430k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8
5 00:00 677 677k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7
6 00:00 1k 1,045k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4
7 00:00 2k 1,549k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 a5xb4
8- 00:00 2k 2,457k -0.42 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8- 00:00 3k 2,571k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8 00:00 3k 3,045k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2
9+ 00:00 4k 3,700k -3.62 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 4k 4,221k -3.55 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 6k 119k -3.08 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9 00:00 6k 134k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4
10 00:00 8k 154k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4 Qd6xf4 Qh4xf4 Kd7-d8
11- 00:00 9k 174k -3.13 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 10k 186k -3.21 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 11k 201k -3.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11 00:00 16k 291k -3.66 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Ra8-a4 Qg2-d2 Bc8-d7 Qd2xd3 Ra4-a2
12+ 00:00 24k 349k -3.59 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 30k 354k -3.52 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 44k 380k -3.27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12 00:00 46k 399k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Bc8-d7 Qg2-d2 Nf8-g6 Qh8-h7 Re8-g8 Qd2xd3 e6-e5
13- 00:00 60k 410k -35.74 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
13+ 00:00 66k 428k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
13 00:00 83k 488k -4.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 a5xb4 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 d5xe4 Bd3xe4 b4xc3 Qg8-g7+ Bc8-d7
14- 00:00 164k 472k -4.37 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 164k 473k -4.44 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 166k 467k -6.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14 00:00 347k 547k -36.26 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 Bd6-c5 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 b4xc5 Qc7-d6 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Qh8xh4+ Re8-e7 Qg8xf8+ Kd8-c7 c5xd6+ Kc7-b6 d6xe7 e4xd3
15- 00:00 362k 553k -36.33 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
15 00:01 1,131k 676k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
16 00:04 3,421k 746k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
17 00:07 5,718k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+
18 00:17 13,704k 793k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+
19 00:53 40,900k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+
20 01:42 74,314k 722k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+ Ke7-f8 Qe6-f5+
21+ 03:12 139,212k 724k -M27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 04:12 182,830k 724k -M30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 06:03 265,906k 732k -M43 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Chessqueen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:30 pm
yurikvelo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:57 pm Try with pawn odds.
Or play 40'+10" Shredder vs 10"+1" Komodo
You got it all wrong Shredder 8 on my system is much much stronger than Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy S8+, Check how deep my Dell All in One Computer can calculate, whereas Komodo does NOT even calculate half af much on my Android. Komodo 13 is the one that needs a pawn odds from Shredder 8. Which for the Next match I will remove the b2 pawn from shredder 8:

Check how deep Shredder 8 can analyze any position :
[Event "Computer chess game"]



Komodo-10-64bit:
1 00:00 30 30k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+
2 00:00 75 75k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8
3 00:00 242 242k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+
4 00:00 430 430k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8
5 00:00 677 677k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7
6 00:00 1k 1,045k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4
7 00:00 2k 1,549k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 a5xb4
8- 00:00 2k 2,457k -0.42 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8- 00:00 3k 2,571k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8 00:00 3k 3,045k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2
9+ 00:00 4k 3,700k -3.62 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 4k 4,221k -3.55 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 6k 119k -3.08 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9 00:00 6k 134k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4
10 00:00 8k 154k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4 Qd6xf4 Qh4xf4 Kd7-d8
11- 00:00 9k 174k -3.13 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 10k 186k -3.21 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 11k 201k -3.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11 00:00 16k 291k -3.66 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Ra8-a4 Qg2-d2 Bc8-d7 Qd2xd3 Ra4-a2
12+ 00:00 24k 349k -3.59 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 30k 354k -3.52 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 44k 380k -3.27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12 00:00 46k 399k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Bc8-d7 Qg2-d2 Nf8-g6 Qh8-h7 Re8-g8 Qd2xd3 e6-e5
13- 00:00 60k 410k -35.74 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
13+ 00:00 66k 428k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
13 00:00 83k 488k -4.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 a5xb4 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 d5xe4 Bd3xe4 b4xc3 Qg8-g7+ Bc8-d7
14- 00:00 164k 472k -4.37 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 164k 473k -4.44 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 166k 467k -6.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14 00:00 347k 547k -36.26 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 Bd6-c5 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 b4xc5 Qc7-d6 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Qh8xh4+ Re8-e7 Qg8xf8+ Kd8-c7 c5xd6+ Kc7-b6 d6xe7 e4xd3
15- 00:00 362k 553k -36.33 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
15 00:01 1,131k 676k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
16 00:04 3,421k 746k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
17 00:07 5,718k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+
18 00:17 13,704k 793k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+
19 00:53 40,900k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+
20 01:42 74,314k 722k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+ Ke7-f8 Qe6-f5+
21+ 03:12 139,212k 724k -M27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 04:12 182,830k 724k -M30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 06:03 265,906k 732k -M43 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
Your printout shows Komodo 10 and not 13. You quite output from the wrong engine, and do not show the position involved. And I find your result lacking in data like how many games did you play and why setting you used.
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

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Chessqueen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:30 pm
yurikvelo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:57 pm Try with pawn odds.
Or play 40'+10" Shredder vs 10"+1" Komodo
You got it all wrong Shredder 8 on my system is much much stronger than Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy S8+, Check how deep my Dell All in One Computer can calculate, whereas Komodo does NOT even calculate half af much on my Android. Komodo 13 is the one that needs a pawn odds from Shredder 8. Which for the Next match I will remove the b2 pawn from shredder 8:

Check how deep Shredder 8 can analyze any position :
[Event "Computer chess game"]



Komodo-10-64bit:
1 00:00 30 30k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+
2 00:00 75 75k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8
3 00:00 242 242k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+
4 00:00 430 430k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8
5 00:00 677 677k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7
6 00:00 1k 1,045k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4
7 00:00 2k 1,549k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 a5xb4
8- 00:00 2k 2,457k -0.42 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8- 00:00 3k 2,571k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8 00:00 3k 3,045k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2
9+ 00:00 4k 3,700k -3.62 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 4k 4,221k -3.55 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 6k 119k -3.08 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9 00:00 6k 134k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4
10 00:00 8k 154k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4 Qd6xf4 Qh4xf4 Kd7-d8
11- 00:00 9k 174k -3.13 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 10k 186k -3.21 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 11k 201k -3.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11 00:00 16k 291k -3.66 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Ra8-a4 Qg2-d2 Bc8-d7 Qd2xd3 Ra4-a2
12+ 00:00 24k 349k -3.59 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 30k 354k -3.52 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 44k 380k -3.27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12 00:00 46k 399k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Bc8-d7 Qg2-d2 Nf8-g6 Qh8-h7 Re8-g8 Qd2xd3 e6-e5
13- 00:00 60k 410k -35.74 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
13+ 00:00 66k 428k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
13 00:00 83k 488k -4.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 a5xb4 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 d5xe4 Bd3xe4 b4xc3 Qg8-g7+ Bc8-d7
14- 00:00 164k 472k -4.37 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 164k 473k -4.44 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 166k 467k -6.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14 00:00 347k 547k -36.26 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 Bd6-c5 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 b4xc5 Qc7-d6 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Qh8xh4+ Re8-e7 Qg8xf8+ Kd8-c7 c5xd6+ Kc7-b6 d6xe7 e4xd3
15- 00:00 362k 553k -36.33 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
15 00:01 1,131k 676k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
16 00:04 3,421k 746k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
17 00:07 5,718k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+
18 00:17 13,704k 793k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+
19 00:53 40,900k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+
20 01:42 74,314k 722k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+ Ke7-f8 Qe6-f5+
21+ 03:12 139,212k 724k -M27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 04:12 182,830k 724k -M30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 06:03 265,906k 732k -M43 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
I used a previous Komodo 10 Vs Shredder 8 test position only to test the analysis depth of Shredder 8 but the last game that I posted was versus Komodo 13 NOT 10 here is a snapshot Give me your email and I will send you a snapshot of Komodo 13 with my Samsung Galaxy S8+
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Raphexon
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

Post by Raphexon »

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:30 pm
yurikvelo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:57 pm Try with pawn odds.
Or play 40'+10" Shredder vs 10"+1" Komodo
You got it all wrong Shredder 8 on my system is much much stronger than Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy S8+, Check how deep my Dell All in One Computer can calculate, whereas Komodo does NOT even calculate half af much on my Android. Komodo 13 is the one that needs a pawn odds from Shredder 8. Which for the Next match I will remove the b2 pawn from shredder 8:

Check how deep Shredder 8 can analyze any position :
[Event "Computer chess game"]



Komodo-10-64bit:
1 00:00 30 30k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+
2 00:00 75 75k +1.63 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8
3 00:00 242 242k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+
4 00:00 430 430k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8
5 00:00 677 677k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7
6 00:00 1k 1,045k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4
7 00:00 2k 1,549k -0.34 e5-e4 g7xf8Q+ Kg8xf8 Qg5-h6+ Kf8-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 a5xb4
8- 00:00 2k 2,457k -0.42 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8- 00:00 3k 2,571k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
8 00:00 3k 3,045k -3.69 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2
9+ 00:00 4k 3,700k -3.62 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 4k 4,221k -3.55 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9+ 00:00 6k 119k -3.08 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
9 00:00 6k 134k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4
10 00:00 8k 154k -3.05 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Qh8xh4+ Ke7-d7 Rg1-g7+ Bd6-e7 Qg8xf8 Qc7-d6 Qf8xf4 Qd6xf4 Qh4xf4 Kd7-d8
11- 00:00 9k 174k -3.13 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 10k 186k -3.21 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11- 00:00 11k 201k -3.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
11 00:00 16k 291k -3.66 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Ra8-a4 Qg2-d2 Bc8-d7 Qd2xd3 Ra4-a2
12+ 00:00 24k 349k -3.59 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 30k 354k -3.52 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12+ 00:00 44k 380k -3.27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
12 00:00 46k 399k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 Qg8-g2 a5xb4 a3xb4 Bc8-d7 Qg2-d2 Nf8-g6 Qh8-h7 Re8-g8 Qd2xd3 e6-e5
13- 00:00 60k 410k -35.74 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
13+ 00:00 66k 428k -3.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e4xd3
13 00:00 83k 488k -4.30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 a5xb4 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Rg7xc7 Kd8xc7 f3xe4 d5xe4 Bd3xe4 b4xc3 Qg8-g7+ Bc8-d7
14- 00:00 164k 472k -4.37 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 164k 473k -4.44 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14- 00:00 166k 467k -6.46 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
14 00:00 347k 547k -36.26 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 Bd6-c5 Qh5-h8+ Kg8-f7 g7-g8Q+ Kf7-e7 b4xc5 Qc7-d6 Rg1-g7+ Ke7-d8 Qh8xh4+ Re8-e7 Qg8xf8+ Kd8-c7 c5xd6+ Kc7-b6 d6xe7 e4xd3
15- 00:00 362k 553k -36.33 e5-e4 Qg5-h5
15 00:01 1,131k 676k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
16 00:04 3,421k 746k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+
17 00:07 5,718k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+
18 00:17 13,704k 793k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+
19 00:53 40,900k 772k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+
20 01:42 74,314k 722k -M23 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5 Qh5xe8 Qc7xg7 Rg1xg7+ Kg8xg7 Re1-g1+ Bc8-g4 Rg1xg4+ Kg7-f6 d4xe5+ Bd6xe5 Qe8xa8 Nf8-g6 f3xe4 Kf6-f7 Rg4xg6 Kf7xg6 e4xd5+ Kg6-f7 Qa8xb7+ Kf7-f6 Qb7xc6+ Kf6-e7 Qc6-e6+ Ke7-f8 Qe6-f5+
21+ 03:12 139,212k 724k -M27 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 04:12 182,830k 724k -M30 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
21+ 06:03 265,906k 732k -M43 e5-e4 Qg5-h5 e6-e5
Why are you only using 1 thread when your phone has 8?
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Re: Can Komodo 13. for Android beat Shredder 8 on a P.C ?

Post by yurikvelo »

Chessqueen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:30 pm You got it all wrong Shredder 8 on my system is much much stronger than Komodo 13 on my Samsung Galaxy S8+, Check how deep my Dell All in One Computer can calculate, whereas Komodo does NOT even calculate half af much on my Android.
in CCRL 40/15 Shredder 9 = 2726 elo, Komodo 13 = 3423 elo

about 700 elo difference. that's >100x time odd or pawn odd

Snapdragon 835 is quite strong CPU, similar to laptop i7 quad core CPU
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