Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Discussion of computer chess matches and engine tournaments.

Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw

Zenmastur
Posts: 919
Joined: Sat May 31, 2014 8:28 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur »

Ovyron wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 2:35 am
Zenmastur wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 11:20 pm 8.Qxb5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4

[d]3rr3/5pk1/7p/1Q1P4/1P5q/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9.Qc5

[d]3rr3/5pk1/7p/2QP4/1P5q/8/5PB1/3R2K1 b - - 1 9
Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
User avatar
Ovyron
Posts: 4556
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron »

Zenmastur wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 5:59 pm 9.Qc5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6

[d]3r4/5pk1/4r2p/2QP4/1P5q/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
Zenmastur
Posts: 919
Joined: Sat May 31, 2014 8:28 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur »

Ovyron wrote: Mon May 25, 2020 11:03 am
Zenmastur wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 5:59 pm 9.Qc5
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6

[d]3r4/5pk1/4r2p/2QP4/1P5q/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10.Qc3+

[d]3r4/5pk1/4r2p/3P4/1P5q/2Q5/5PB1/3R2K1 b - - 3 10
Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
User avatar
Ovyron
Posts: 4556
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron »

Zenmastur wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:04 am 10.Qc3+
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P5q/2Q5/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
Zenmastur
Posts: 919
Joined: Sat May 31, 2014 8:28 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur »

Ovyron wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 12:02 pm
Zenmastur wrote: Tue May 26, 2020 5:04 am 10.Qc3+
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P5q/2Q5/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11.Qd4

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P1Q3q/8/5PB1/3R2K1 b - - 5 11
Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
User avatar
Ovyron
Posts: 4556
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron »

Zenmastur wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 3:54 pm 11.Qd4
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P1q4/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
Zenmastur
Posts: 919
Joined: Sat May 31, 2014 8:28 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Zenmastur »

Ovyron wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 8:46 am
Zenmastur wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 3:54 pm 11.Qd4
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P1q4/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rxd4

[d]3r4/5pk1/5r1p/3P4/1P1R4/8/5PB1/6K1 b - - 0 12
Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.
User avatar
Ovyron
Posts: 4556
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 am

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Ovyron »

Zenmastur wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 3:33 am 12.Rxd4
I'm playing this without much analysis (remaining) at all. I had expected 11.Rd2 Kh7 12.Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rd4 Kg7 13.x Kf8, but it seems I'm basically just a tempo ahead...

[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8

[d]3r1k2/5p2/5r1p/3P4/1P1R4/8/5PB1/6K1 w - -
zullil
Posts: 6442
Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:31 am
Location: PA USA
Full name: Louis Zulli

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by zullil »

Ovyron wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:00 am
Zenmastur wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 3:33 am 12.Rxd4
I'm playing this without much analysis (remaining) at all. I had expected 11.Rd2 Kh7 12.Qd4 Qxd4 12.Rd4 Kg7 13.x Kf8, but it seems I'm basically just a tempo ahead...

[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]

1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8

[d]3r1k2/5p2/5r1p/3P4/1P1R4/8/5PB1/6K1 w - -
My Stockfish-dev has been searching this position now for many days (with 6-man tables, and with some forward/backward guidance supplied by me). I'm happy to share the current numerical eval, but only if both players give consent.
Dann Corbit
Posts: 12538
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:57 pm
Location: Redmond, WA USA

Re: Zenmastur vs Ovyron No it's not another GROB II!

Post by Dann Corbit »

I am eager to see the reverse game when this one ends in a draw.
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.