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Zenmastur
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Post by Zenmastur Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:22 pm
Ovyron wrote: ↑ Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:51 am Zenmastur wrote: ↑ Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:16 pm I'd be happy if the evaluation was actually that good!
Now I'd be curious to know how alternatives to 3...f4?! compared
Also, after the discussions on another thread, I'm making my protest against the PGN standard and removing '[SetUp "1"]' from the game notation, because as Dann has pointed out, stating a FEN should be enough to declare that the game is being started from... the FEN.
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5
Ke7
[d]3r4/4kp2/5r1p/1P1P4/3R4/8/5PB1/6K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7
14.Rd1
[d]3r4/4kp2/5r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/3R2K1 b - - 2 14
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Ovyron
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Post by Ovyron Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:19 am
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1
Rb8
[d]1r6/4kp2/5r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
Zenmastur
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Post by Zenmastur Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:24 am
Ovyron wrote: ↑ Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:19 am
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1
Rb8
[d]1r6/4kp2/5r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/3R2K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1 Rb8
15.Rb1
[d]1r6/4kp2/5r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/1R4K1 b - - 4 15
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Ovyron
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Post by Ovyron Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:58 am
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1 Rb8 15. Rb1
Rbb6
[d]8/4kp2/1r3r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/1R4K1 w - -
jp
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Post by jp Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:17 pm
Ovyron wrote: ↑ Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:58 am
8/4kp2/1r3r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/1R4K1 w - -
Komodo 13.2, depth 30: -1.48.
Alayan
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Post by Alayan Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:35 am
My unassisted home SF with 5-men TB has a high evaluation for black but can't find a clear win, unchanged eval from depth 61 to 72. 6 and 7-men could help massively here I suspect.
Ovyron
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Post by Ovyron Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:44 pm
Alayan wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:35 am
6 and 7-men could help massively here I suspect.
I was able to find a clear win without those. Just play actual games and understand why some moves work and others don't, then you can win as black without engine assistance. I believe I can make an outstanding claim after I capture the d pawn.
jp
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Post by jp Mon Jun 08, 2020 4:35 am
Ovyron wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:44 pm
I believe I can make an outstanding claim after I capture the d pawn.
What do you mean by "outstanding claim"? Announce mate in N??
Zenmastur
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Post by Zenmastur Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:00 am
Ovyron wrote: ↑ Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:58 am
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1 Rb8 15. Rb1
Rbb6
[d]8/4kp2/1r3r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5PB1/1R4K1 w - -
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1 Rb8 15. Rb1 Rbb6
16.Bf1
[d]8/4kp2/1r3r1p/1P1P4/8/8/5P2/1R3BK1 b - - 6 16
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Ovyron
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Post by Ovyron Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:28 am
[FEN "4r3/5pk1/1q1r1p1p/1p1Pn2Q/1Pp4P/6P1/5PB1/R3R1K1 b - -"]
1... f5 2. Qd1 Rdd8 3. Re3 f4 4. gxf4 Nd3 5. Rxd3 cxd3 6. Qxd3 Qf6 7. Rd1 Qxf4 8. Qxb5 Qxh4 9. Qc5 Re6 10. Qc3+ Rf6 11. Qd4 Qxd4 12. Rxd4 Kf8 13. b5 Ke7 14. Rd1 Rb8 15. Rb1 Rbb6 16. Bf1
Rf5
[d]8/4kp2/1r5p/1P1P1r2/8/8/5P2/1R3BK1 w - -
