Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Rebel, chrisw

dkappe
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:52 pm
Full name: Dietrich Kappe

Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by dkappe »

I hope no one minds my appropriation of the Toga III aspirational name. This is the first version, trained on 22m or so Toga II 4.01 d8 positions.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/toga-iii-0-1-39703574

I called a TKO on the 1+1 test match (no tb, natch).

Code: Select all

Score of TogaIII-0.1 vs TogaII: 25 - 0 - 2  [0.963] 27
I wonder if it has Toga II’s style. Below, vs Ethereal 12.04, 1+1 with TB. Let me know what you think.

[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2020.07.25"]
[Round "3"]
[White "TogaIII-0.1"]
[Black "Ethereal12.04"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A48"]
[GameDuration "00:03:38"]
[GameEndTime "2020-07-25T11:56:22.241 CDT"]
[GameStartTime "2020-07-25T11:52:43.466 CDT"]
[Opening "King's Indian"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Torre attack"]

1. d4 {book} Nf6 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} g6 {book} 3. Bg5 {book} Bg7 {book}
4. e3 {+0.02/21 5.1s} c5 {+0.22/18 5.7s} 5. Nbd2 {0.00/19 0.86s}
b6 {+0.18/19 3.7s} 6. c3 {+0.05/20 4.3s} Bb7 {+0.25/18 1.8s}
7. Bc4 {+0.02/19 2.4s} d5 {+0.23/19 2.1s} 8. Bb3 {+0.01/20 2.3s}
O-O {+0.27/18 1.9s} 9. O-O {0.00/18 0.89s} Nbd7 {+0.24/19 1.6s}
10. h3 {+0.02/20 1.5s} Rc8 {+0.19/19 1.8s} 11. Re1 {0.00/19 1.4s}
h6 {+0.24/20 2.8s} 12. Bf4 {+0.06/21 1.9s} Ne4 {+0.19/19 1.9s}
13. Bh2 {+0.04/23 3.5s} Nd6 {+0.15/20 6.6s} 14. Bc2 {+0.04/22 1.9s}
Nf6 {+0.19/19 1.5s} 15. Qe2 {+0.08/22 2.1s} Qc7 {+0.22/19 1.7s}
16. Ne5 {+0.08/21 0.93s} Rfd8 {+0.18/20 1.7s} 17. f3 {+0.14/21 2.7s}
Nd7 {+0.25/18 2.7s} 18. f4 {+0.09/20 0.89s} Nf6 {+0.91/19 2.4s}
19. a4 {+0.07/22 3.0s} e6 {+0.71/20 3.8s} 20. h4 {0.00/21 4.4s}
cxd4 {+0.88/18 5.5s} 21. exd4 {+0.07/19 0.94s} Nf5 {+1.06/18 1.5s}
22. Ndf3 {+0.05/23 2.5s} Ne4 {+0.18/19 3.7s} 23. g4 {+0.11/23 1.3s}
Nfd6 {+0.71/19 1.7s} 24. Qg2 {+0.07/22 2.2s} Re8 {+0.48/17 1.5s}
25. Bd3 {+0.10/25 4.5s} Rf8 {+0.33/16 2.3s} 26. Qh3 {+0.14/22 3.0s}
Bxe5 {-0.34/20 4.0s} 27. Nxe5 {+0.41/21 0.98s} Qd8 {-1.13/21 8.5s}
28. Re2 {+0.62/23 5.0s} Bc6 {-1.18/18 3.4s} 29. Rg2 {+0.57/21 2.5s}
Bd7 {-1.60/18 5.5s} 30. Rf1 {+0.60/18 1.00s} Bxa4 {-1.79/18 3.4s}
31. f5 {+1.47/19 2.3s} Be8 {-2.14/17 2.2s} 32. Bf4 {+2.53/20 2.5s}
Kh7 {-3.37/16 1.0s} 33. Bxh6 {+3.00/19 1.1s} Kxh6 {-5.09/19 1.0s}
34. g5+ {+3.06/21 1.2s} Kh7 {-6.14/20 1.00s} 35. fxg6+ {+3.57/21 1.3s}
Kg7 {-6.70/21 1.0s} 36. h5 {+3.65/24 2.3s} fxg6 {-6.67/20 1.00s}
37. h6+ {+4.04/21 1.8s} Kh7 {-6.99/22 1.0s} 38. Rxf8 {+3.90/23 2.5s}
Qe7 {-7.21/19 1.0s} 39. Bxe4 {+3.78/20 2.0s} dxe4 {-7.55/18 1.00s}
40. Rf6 {+4.20/20 1.6s} Nf5 {-7.57/19 1.0s} 41. Ng4 {+4.23/20 2.4s}
Rc6 {-6.19/17 1.0s} 42. Qh2 {+5.29/22 1.2s} Rd6 {-7.93/16 1.0s}
43. Qe5 {+6.21/23 1.2s} Rd5 {-10.26/19 1.0s} 44. Qxe6 {+6.70/23 1.4s}
Rd7 {-11.24/19 1.0s} 45. Rxg6 {+8.09/23 0.99s} Qxe6 {-13.16/18 1.00s}
46. Rxe6 {+9.46/20 1.2s} Re7 {-15.37/17 1.0s} 47. Nf6+ {+10.99/24 1.2s}
Kg6 {-16.55/17 1.0s} 48. Rxe7 {+12.18/23 0.97s} Nxe7 {-19.86/18 1.0s}
49. h7 {+13.04/22 1.5s} Kg7 {-21.62/18 1.00s} 50. Rh2 {+13.48/22 1.5s}
Kh8 {-22.73/19 1.0s} 51. Nxe8 {+13.92/22 1.0s} b5 {-23.95/19 1.00s}
52. Nd6 {+M21/34 0.90s} Ng6 {-21.53/18 1.0s} 53. Rh6 {+M19/33 1.0s}
e3 {-22.67/18 1.0s} 54. Rxg6 {+M15/37 0.92s} Kxh7 {-31.03/18 1.0s}
55. Rf6 {+M13/39 0.92s} b4 {-M12/25 1.00s} 56. Nf5 {+M11/41 0.93s}
Kg8 {-M10/35 0.81s} 57. g6 {+M9/94 0.90s} e2 {-M8/38 0.81s}
58. Kf2 {+M7/245 0.15s} e1=N {-M6/40 1.4s} 59. Kxe1 {+M5/245 0.042s}
bxc3 {-M4/46 1.0s} 60. Rd6 {+M3/245 0.006s} cxb2 {-M2/47 0.86s}
61. Rd8# {+M1/245 0.002s, White mates} 1-0
[/pgn]
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".
Top
kranium
Posts: 2129
Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 10:43 am

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by kranium »

dkappe wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:01 pm I hope no one minds my appropriation of the Toga III aspirational name. This is the first version, trained on 22m or so Toga II 4.01 d8 positions.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/toga-iii-0-1-39703574

I called a TKO on the 1+1 test match (no tb, natch).

Code: Select all

Score of TogaIII-0.1 vs TogaII: 25 - 0 - 2  [0.963] 27
I wonder if it has Toga II’s style. Below, vs Ethereal 12.04, 1+1 with TB. Let me know what you think.
Nice!
My only observation would be..maybe
SF-NNUE-Toga describes it better.

(the score reminds us that it is actually Stockfish playing! :D)
Top
dkappe
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:52 pm
Full name: Dietrich Kappe

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by dkappe »

kranium wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:03 pm
Nice!
My only observation would be..maybe
SF-NNUE-Toga describes it better.

(the score reminds us that it is actually Stockfish playing! :D)
Which is more important, the eval or the search? I’ve had a chance to try it in another nnue enabled engine, and I’d say it plays about the same. So, I think the name is good as it stands.
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".
Top
User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Thanks ....

Sorry for the trivial question but how do you load this .bin file into Chessbase GUI for example ?

Cheers,
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
dkappe
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:52 pm
Full name: Dietrich Kappe

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by dkappe »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm Thanks ....

Sorry for the trivial question but how do you load this .bin file into Chessbase GUI for example ?

Cheers,
Dr.D
You need a stockfish-nnue executable first.
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".
Top
dkappe
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:52 pm
Full name: Dietrich Kappe

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by dkappe »

All in one binaries that will work in chessbase and Fritz can be found here. https://github.com/FireFather/sf-nnue/r ... 07-25-2020
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".
Top
User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

dkappe wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:49 pm
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:37 pm Thanks ....

Sorry for the trivial question but how do you load this .bin file into Chessbase GUI for example ?

Cheers,
Dr.D
You need a stockfish-nnue executable first.
Aha thanks ....
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

dkappe wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:00 pm All in one binaries that will work in chessbase and Fritz can be found here. https://github.com/FireFather/sf-nnue/r ... 07-25-2020
Thanks again much appreciated ....

Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
carldaman
Posts: 2283
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:13 am

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by carldaman »

dkappe wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:08 pm
kranium wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:03 pm
Nice!
My only observation would be..maybe
SF-NNUE-Toga describes it better.

(the score reminds us that it is actually Stockfish playing! :D)
Which is more important, the eval or the search? I’ve had a chance to try it in another nnue enabled engine, and I’d say it plays about the same. So, I think the name is good as it stands.
To be fair the name should credit the entities behind both the search and eval.
Top
dkappe
Posts: 1631
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:52 pm
Full name: Dietrich Kappe

Re: Toga III 0.1 NNUE released

Post by dkappe »

carldaman wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:35 pm
dkappe wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:08 pm
kranium wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:03 pm
Nice!
My only observation would be..maybe
SF-NNUE-Toga describes it better.

(the score reminds us that it is actually Stockfish playing! :D)
Which is more important, the eval or the search? I’ve had a chance to try it in another nnue enabled engine, and I’d say it plays about the same. So, I think the name is good as it stands.
To be fair the name should credit the entities behind both the search and eval.
So when it runs on stockfish it should be called toga stockfish, when it runs on Weiss it should be called toga Weiss, when it runs on Komodo it should be called toga Komodo? What a strange and wonderful world you live in. In the leela world we just refer to the network name.
Fat Titz by Stockfish, the engine with the bodaciously big net. Remember: size matters. If you want to learn more about this engine just google for "Fat Titz".
Top

Return to “Computer Chess Club: General Topics”