of players based on games.
If yes then
Is there some comparison to find which program is best for this target.
I think that it may be interesting to get an estimate for the rating of some players that played 100 or 200 years ago by some chess program based on the quality of their games.
For example I think that it may be interesting to have some estimate for the rating of
Louis Charles Mahe De Labourdonnais or Alexander McDonnell who played in 1834 based on the quality of their games.
Are there chess programs to evaluate chess rating
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Re: Are there chess programs to evaluate chess rating
I don't think that exists.
The closest thing I've seen are applications that try to calculate the Elo of a game (only one game and can be pgn format). These programs calculate the error in each move made by the user and an engine that normally has used some version of stockfish. These programs usually give the option to remove the moves from the opening and usually stop analyzing when there is already a significant difference in material, for example +5.´
In the forum we talked about one of these PC applications although I don't have the link (search ChessGameReport).
In Android, I know this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... eyourgames
I don't know if the app is in English (I have it in Spanish). The interesting thing that I have seen when I have analyzed some of my games, is that my force of game is very variable, there are games in which I have committed many errors even of material and I finish with a low Elo of 1300 and in some of my games that there are not errors of material I have arrived almost at the 2500. A good option of the program would be to be able to analyze several games at once and make the average.
The closest thing I've seen are applications that try to calculate the Elo of a game (only one game and can be pgn format). These programs calculate the error in each move made by the user and an engine that normally has used some version of stockfish. These programs usually give the option to remove the moves from the opening and usually stop analyzing when there is already a significant difference in material, for example +5.´
In the forum we talked about one of these PC applications although I don't have the link (search ChessGameReport).
In Android, I know this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... eyourgames
I don't know if the app is in English (I have it in Spanish). The interesting thing that I have seen when I have analyzed some of my games, is that my force of game is very variable, there are games in which I have committed many errors even of material and I finish with a low Elo of 1300 and in some of my games that there are not errors of material I have arrived almost at the 2500. A good option of the program would be to be able to analyze several games at once and make the average.
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Re: Are there chess programs to evaluate chess rating
I think that there are positions when it is easier not to make mistakes that lose material and players with style that go more to these type of positions should not get a higher estimate.pedrox wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:03 pm I don't think that exists.
The closest thing I've seen are applications that try to calculate the Elo of a game (only one game and can be pgn format). These programs calculate the error in each move made by the user and an engine that normally has used some version of stockfish. These programs usually give the option to remove the moves from the opening and usually stop analyzing when there is already a significant difference in material, for example +5.´
In the forum we talked about one of these PC applications although I don't have the link (search ChessGameReport).
In Android, I know this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... eyourgames
I don't know if the app is in English (I have it in Spanish). The interesting thing that I have seen when I have analyzed some of my games, is that my force of game is very variable, there are games in which I have committed many errors even of material and I finish with a low Elo of 1300 and in some of my games that there are not errors of material I have arrived almost at the 2500. A good option of the program would be to be able to analyze several games at once and make the average.
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Re: Are there chess programs to evaluate chess rating
Several years ago used ChessGameReport.exe and I was happy with it.
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?t=51865
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... #pid236452
It produces a report like this :
http://talkchess.com/forum3/viewtopic.php?t=51865
http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... #pid236452
It produces a report like this :
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CHESS GAME REPORT
Game scored at a 2000 Elo skill level.
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GAME ELO 2791 1953
AVERAGE ERROR FOR GAME Expected Actual Rating Expected Actual Rating
0,29 0,09 0,19 0,21 0,22 -0,01
MOVE RANKING Rank No. % Avg Err Rank No. % Avg Err
Best 18 53 0,00 Best 7 21 0,00
2nd 7 21 0,08 2nd 8 24 0,19
3rd 2 6 0,14 3rd 4 12 0,13
4th 0,00 4th 3 9 0,13
5th 2 6 0,40 5th 3 9 0,12
6th 2 6 0,22 6th 2 6 0,15
7th 1 3 0,10 7th 1 3 0,65
8th 0,00 8th 0,00
9th 0,00 9th 1 3 0,19
10+ 2 6 0,52 10+ 4 12 1,20
BEST MOVES Move Exp Act Rating Move Exp Act Rating
17. Qg3 1,26 0,00 1,26 29..Bxh6 1,06 0,00 1,06
34. Raxe1 0,71 0,00 0,71 32..Rg8 0,57 0,00 0,57
26. gxh6 0,62 0,00 0,62 13..Ne8 0,22 0,00 0,22
28. Rg1 0,62 0,00 0,62 17..g5 0,20 0,00 0,20
20. Bg2 0,82 0,25 0,46 4..Nd7 0,21 0,04 0,16
WORST MOVES Move Exp Act Rating Move Exp Act Rating
1. f4 0,18 0,77 -0,50 33..e1=N 0,55 4,55 -2,58
4. d3 0,11 0,25 -0,13 30..Nh7 0,13 0,85 -0,63
16. f5 0,21 0,31 -0,08 16..Bf8 0,48 1,19 -0,48
18. f6 0,54 0,59 -0,03 31..f6 0,25 0,65 -0,32
14. g4 0,16 0,19 -0,03 18..d4 0,35 0,65 -0,22
MOST CHALLENGING POSITIONS Move Exp Act Rating Move Exp Act Rating
17. 1,26 0,00 1,26 29... 1,06 0,00 1,06
20. 0,82 0,25 0,46 32... 0,57 0,00 0,57
32. 0,73 0,33 0,30 27... 0,55 0,52 0,02
34. 0,71 0,00 0,71 33... 0,55 4,55 -2,58
26. 0,62 0,00 0,62 16... 0,48 1,19 -0,48
White PS WP Exp Act Rating Elo Black PS WP Exp Act Rating Elo
1. f4 -0,27 44 0,18 0,77 -0,50 0 1..d5 0,20 54 0,12 0,06 0,06 2841
2. Nf3 -0,20 46 0,09 0,00 0,09 2841 2..Bg4 0,01 50 0,06 0,19 -0,12 402
3. Ne5 -0,01 50 0,11 0,00 0,11 2841 3..Bf5 -0,10 48 0,10 0,11 -0,01 1965
4. d3 -0,14 47 0,11 0,25 -0,13 1030 4..Nd7 0,10 52 0,21 0,04 0,16 2841
5. Nf3 -0,35 42 0,22 0,23 0,00 1904 5..Ngf6 0,33 57 0,11 0,02 0,10 2841
6. g3 -0,46 40 0,14 0,10 0,04 2281 6..e6 0,45 60 0,07 0,01 0,07 2841
7. Bg2 -0,45 40 0,15 0,00 0,15 2841 7..h6 0,35 58 0,07 0,07 0,00 1983
8. O-O -0,40 41 0,09 0,04 0,05 2841 8..Be7 0,11 52 0,20 0,26 -0,05 287
9. Nc3 -0,25 45 0,27 0,13 0,13 2827 9..O-O 0,19 54 0,11 0,05 0,06 2841
10. Qe1 -0,19 46 0,15 0,00 0,15 2841 10..Bh7 0,10 52 0,19 0,08 0,10 2595
11. Kh1 -0,17 46 0,14 0,06 0,07 2841 11..c5 0,09 52 0,15 0,07 0,07 2517
12. e4 -0,09 48 0,13 0,00 0,13 2841 12..Rb8 -0,10 48 0,22 0,20 0,02 2220
13. e5 0,10 52 0,13 0,00 0,13 2841 13..Ne8 -0,10 48 0,22 0,00 0,22 1961
14. g4 -0,08 48 0,16 0,19 -0,03 1467 14..Nc7 -0,01 50 0,09 0,09 0,00 2483
15. Bh3 0,01 50 0,27 0,00 0,27 2841 15..Re8 -0,06 49 0,09 0,05 0,04 2841
16. f5 -0,24 45 0,21 0,31 -0,08 1241 16..Bf8 -0,77 33 0,48 1,19 -0,48 48
17. Qg3 0,77 67 1,26 0,00 1,26 2800 17..g5 -0,77 33 0,20 0,00 0,20 2841
18. f6 0,11 52 0,54 0,59 -0,03 1937 18..d4 -0,83 32 0,35 0,65 -0,22 1645
19. Ne4 0,83 68 0,38 0,00 0,38 2801 19..Nd5 -1,01 29 0,24 0,10 0,13 2774
20. Bg2 0,61 63 0,82 0,25 0,46 2634 20..Qc7 -1,22 25 0,20 0,38 -0,15 1357
21. h4 1,20 74 0,32 0,01 0,31 2773 21..gxh4 -1,71 19 0,21 0,23 -0,02 1580
22. Qxh4 1,71 81 0,41 0,00 0,41 2182 22..Ne3 -1,71 19 0,06 0,00 0,06 1854
23. Bxe3 1,71 81 0,23 0,00 0,23 2824 23..dxe3 -1,71 19 0,13 0,00 0,13 769
24. g5 1,68 81 0,18 0,01 0,17 2841 24..Rbc8 -2,00 16 0,23 0,12 0,10 2731
25. Qg3 1,93 83 0,12 0,02 0,09 2841 25..Kh8 -2,50 12 0,08 0,19 -0,10 1394
26. gxh6 2,50 88 0,62 0,00 0,62 2841 26..Bxe4 -2,61 12 0,06 0,03 0,02 2841
27. dxe4 2,61 88 0,40 0,00 0,40 1864 27..e2 -4,50 5 0,55 0,52 0,02 2480
28. Rg1 4,50 95 0,62 0,00 0,62 2403 28..Nxf6 -4,50 5 0,14 0,00 0,14 2841
29. Bh3 4,23 94 0,31 0,05 0,25 2318 29..Bxh6 -4,23 6 1,06 0,00 1,06 2436
30. Qh4 4,23 94 0,09 0,00 0,09 969 30..Nh7 -8,70 2 0,13 0,85 -0,63 425
31. Qxh6 8,70 98 0,23 0,00 0,23 789 31..f6 -15,00 1 0,25 0,65 -0,32 469
32. exf6 11,05 99 0,73 0,33 0,30 2729 32..Rg8 -11,05 1 0,57 0,00 0,57 2841
33. Bxe6 11,05 99 0,24 0,00 0,24 2841 33..e1=N -65,85 0 0,55 4,55 -2,58 0
34. Raxe1 65,85 100 0,71 0,00 0,71 2491
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Re: Are there chess programs to evaluate chess rating
Sorry if I am misunderstanding but could you use Ordo?
https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
"Ordo is a program to calculate ratings of individual chess engines (or players) "
https://sites.google.com/site/gaviotachessengine/ordo
"Ordo is a program to calculate ratings of individual chess engines (or players) "