Goodbye Talkchess

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swami
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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by swami » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:30 am

bob wrote:I'm off to check out the new forum as anything has to be better than the current mess left here.

Open Chess is a nice forum created by him, Bob, and it is nice to see many people joining up. 8-)

I hope you will become an active member there.

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by NJDenson » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:34 am

Well, i been around for some time. Even to a point of selling dedicated computers for ICD. I even did some tourny's while living in the state of FL. I always like the open dialog that were allowed here that seems free of censoring. Its sad to see where things are going. If the same was done to Rybka during its early development I guess there would be no Rybka 4 today. I want to see the development of chess in a whole and recent events has helped developers in a whole. When do you give back to those that pioneered this age of programs. I guess its all coming down to commercialization. When new forum opens please send me the link or post here. Hopefully it is not deleted. Its all about the Money !!! and nothing to do with the development of Computer Chess.

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by bob » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:34 am

swami wrote:
bob wrote:I'm off to check out the new forum as anything has to be better than the current mess left here.

Open Chess is a nice forum created by him, Bob, and it is nice to see many people joining up. 8-)

I hope you will become an active member there.
waiting on the registration confirmation, then that's where I will post from here on...

I've had more than enough of the moderation nonsense here. Let Graham and Sam enjoy moderating each other when this finally falls apart... This started going to hell in a handbasket when Steve decided to retire... Really enjoyed working with him for years.

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by BTO7 » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:42 am

Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by gaard » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:46 am

Already registered and posting. Though I haven't been a member here long, I've stalked the forums for a long time and I saw this coming quite a while ago... glad to see you spearhead this. Thanks.

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:47 am

BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... ;)

Greets, Thomas

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by bob » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:01 am

Thomas Mayer wrote:
BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... ;)

Greets, Thomas
There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by Thomas Mayer » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:06 am

bob wrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:
BTO7 wrote:Great move ...we will all support you there. This is crazy around here....obviously biased. We play chess....we love engines ...dont need the hand cuffs on for sure. Short time i have been here it looks to me Banks is the underlying reason too.

Catch you there
BT
That looks great, all the trolls are leaving... well, some collateral damage, but time will heal wounds... ;)

Greets, Thomas
There are more than "trolls" leaving. But I suppose you won't understand that at all...
Well, you didn't get me, Bob. The others are the collateral damage.
I mean if Rolf turns up he might follow as well. ;)

Greets, Thomas

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by Albert Silver » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:09 am

zamar wrote:I hate cloning and have been personally convinced so far that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, but as a writer of open source program and supporter of the right to free speech
No offense, but I think your arguments are odd. The announcement I read asked to be less lenient about posting announcements in the General Topics subforum, essentially promoting the clones, and to move them to the CEO.

If you think they are clones of Rybka, and thus that a professional colleague's work is being distributed via these forums, how do you reconcile allowing them? If you had stated you were not convinced they were clones, I might have understood, but instead you are professing that his work should be stolen and disseminated here in the name of free speech??
"Tactics are the bricks and sticks that make up a game, but positional play is the architectural blueprint."

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Re: Goodbye Talkchess

Post by Zach Wegner » Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:16 am

Albert Silver wrote:
zamar wrote:I hate cloning and have been personally convinced so far that Ippolit is a clone of Rybka, but as a writer of open source program and supporter of the right to free speech
No offense, but I think your arguments are odd. The announcement I read asked to be less lenient about posting announcements in the General Topics subforum, essentially promoting the clones, and to move them to the CEO.

If you think they are clones of Rybka, and thus that a professional colleague's work is being distributed via these forums, how do you reconcile allowing them? If you had stated you were not convinced they were clones, I might have understood, but instead you are professing that his work should be stolen and disseminated here in the name of free speech??
Reread this part:
The moderation team was informed yesterday by the site administrator, Sam Hull, that the site owners, Your Move Chess & Games/ICD, want the moderation team to aggressively remove links and any posts which could be seen as "encouragement to acquire software of questionable legitimacy". "Software of questionable legitimacy" obviously refers to the engines derived from the source code known as I--- (I censor myself here to avoid being banned to the CEO forum by Graham), and the request was justified by the various commercial partnerships which YMC&G/ICD maintains.
This is obviously against the charter.

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