Court case victory to Chessbase

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Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:08 am

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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by kinderchocolate » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:53 am

Chessbase must be Vasik Rajlich's best friend, no wonder they can sell a Fruit's derivative illegally.

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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Albert Silver » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:29 pm

kinderchocolate wrote:Chessbase must be Vasik Rajlich's best friend, no wonder they can sell a Fruit's derivative illegally.
What on earth does Vasik have to do with it??
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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by ernest » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:03 pm

Albert Silver wrote:What on earth does Vasik have to do with it??
Some people here go bezerk as soon as they see the name ChessBase... :P

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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Albert Silver » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:42 pm

ernest wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:What on earth does Vasik have to do with it??
Some people here go bezerk as soon as they see the name ChessBase... :P
In all honesty, Chessbase did chess in general a great service standing up against this nonsense. If game scores were ever genuinely copyrighted it would be the death of chess as we know it.
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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Dirt » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:40 pm

Albert Silver wrote:If game scores were ever genuinely copyrighted it would be the death of chess as we know it.
I think the stronger argument was the unfair competition one. If Chessbase had won on that the games still could not be copyrighted, but only not be relayed "live".

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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Albert Silver » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:44 pm

Dirt wrote:
Albert Silver wrote:If game scores were ever genuinely copyrighted it would be the death of chess as we know it.
I think the stronger argument was the unfair competition one. If Chessbase had won on that the games still could not be copyrighted, but only not be relayed "live".
I guess I am missing something. IF Chessbase won on that?
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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by stevenaaus » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:22 pm

Nice to see this legal result. I can understand the Bulgarian Chess Federation's beef - lining up sponsors on the strength of exclusivity, but the fact is chess games are not copyrightable and hopefully it'll stay this way :wink:

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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by Graham Banks » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:29 pm

stevenaaus wrote:.......chess games are not copyrightable and hopefully it'll stay this way :wink:
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Re: Court case victory to Chessbase

Post by bob » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:38 pm

Albert Silver wrote:
kinderchocolate wrote:Chessbase must be Vasik Rajlich's best friend, no wonder they can sell a Fruit's derivative illegally.
What on earth does Vasik have to do with it??
I'm not a chessbase fan, but this case was ridiculous. A "chess game" is "a database", where the entries in the database are "the moves." Talk about a wild stretch. Many courts have already ruled that you can _not_ copyright a chess game, because chess games are "enumerable" and one can write a program which, given enough time, can enumerate every possible game of chess that can be played. In this case, a "bravo" for ChessBase and the courts over there...

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