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Nay Lin Tun
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TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am

1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by CMCanavessi » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
Still 2100 elo engine :roll:
Follow my tournament and some Leela gauntlets live at http://twitch.tv/ccls

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by David Xu » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:26 am

CMCanavessi wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
Still 2100 elo engine :roll:
Lesson to be learned here: if you say a stupid thing once and later admit you were mistaken, no one will give you any trouble for it.

If you insist on repeating said stupid thing over and over again while refusing to engage with any semblance of counterargument, you will later (rightfully) be made fun of once it becomes clear that you're wrong. :roll:

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by noobpwnftw » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:06 am

David Xu wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:26 am
CMCanavessi wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
Still 2100 elo engine :roll:
Lesson to be learned here: if you say a stupid thing once and later admit you were mistaken, no one will give you any trouble for it.

If you insist on repeating said stupid thing over and over again while refusing to engage with any semblance of counterargument, you will later (rightfully) be made fun of once it becomes clear that you're wrong. :roll:
Or label any counterarguments as conspiracy plots then disappear when proven wrong. :roll:
6x64 net was nowhere near a plateau, over-fitting can be easily solved, A0 papers was very scientific and trivially reproducible, conventional engines are retiring, etc. None of them are true, mind you.

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by David Xu » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:12 am

noobpwnftw wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:06 am
David Xu wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:26 am
CMCanavessi wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 am


Still 2100 elo engine :roll:
Lesson to be learned here: if you say a stupid thing once and later admit you were mistaken, no one will give you any trouble for it.

If you insist on repeating said stupid thing over and over again while refusing to engage with any semblance of counterargument, you will later (rightfully) be made fun of once it becomes clear that you're wrong. :roll:
Or label any counterarguments as conspiracy plots then disappear when proven wrong. :roll:
I see the word "proof" has a different, somewhat weaker meaning to you than it does to me, as does the word "counterargument". But you're much mistaken if you think I consider it worth my effort to continue arguing with a troll, so I'll be bowing out for now. (You can feel free to continue thinking of it as "disappearing" if it makes you feel better. :roll: ) Have fun living in your world of delusions.

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by Uri Blass » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:27 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
I do not see 2.

http://tcec.chessdom.com/bonus/live.php

Defenchess 1.2 is leading 2-0 so far and the reported rating of Defenchess 1.2 is only 3076

I do not know what is the basis of 3041 for LCZero 010.390 when it only has 2 losses against Defenchess at this point of time(it has the advantage at game 3 but they did not finish game 3 at this point of time).

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:34 am

Uri Blass wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:27 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
I do not see 2.

http://tcec.chessdom.com/bonus/live.php

Defenchess 1.2 is leading 2-0 so far and the reported rating of Defenchess 1.2 is only 3076

I do not know what is the basis of 3041 for LCZero 010.390 when it only has 2 losses against Defenchess at this point of time(it has the advantage at game 3 but they did not finish game 3 at this point of time).
Oh, it was about 3+2 blitz gaunlet. She had 3200+ performance when I made that post.

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by Milos » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:34 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
1. Got 2 heads in a row when tossing a coin. (Full stop)
2. The Earth is flat. (Full stop) :lol: :lol: :lol:
I like the way you use that full stop in the brackets. I guess it is for ppl with impaired vision so that they know it's the end of a sentence. :wink:

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by Milos » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:36 am

CMCanavessi wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:59 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:37 am
1. Komodo won Premier Division with 0.5 score ahead of Stockfish, ( 31 points and 30.5 points ). (Full stop)
2. Leela on TCEC CPU (CPU) is performing 3200+ rating. (Full stop)
Still 2100 elo engine :roll:
On single core of your CPU that you use to run other engines when "testing" against LC0, it would be pretty close.

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Re: TCEC news, believe it or not (no ifs or buts)

Post by noobpwnftw » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 am

David Xu wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:12 am
I see the word "proof" has a different, somewhat weaker meaning to you than it does to me, as does the word "counterargument".
From your arguments, what do you know about "proof" anyway.

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