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Re: Banksia GUI released..A Few Issues

Post by supersharp77 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 pm

Guenther wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:03 am
phhnguyen wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:32 am
...
supersharp77 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:16 pm
and lack of a adjudication button for the tourney games...
When creating a tournament, you can find Adjudication box (near the bottom of the dialog window). At the moment, users can turn on/off, adjudicate games by length (set 0 if you want to ignore) and by probing Syzygy.

If you need different functions, tell me :)

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At least adjudication by eval should be added. (with a condition)
Agreed......Also Need A box for each engines estimated rating strength when engine is added to the GUI...that way as tournament goes forward you can follow the ratings...Also unable to create opening book from a pgn file or a database file "create opening book for GUI"....

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Re: Banksia GUI released

Post by phhnguyen » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:46 am

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:30 am
phhnguyen wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:00 am
Ponti wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:33 am
Is there a chance to support DGT eletronic boards ?
Sorry, not for the coming time. I don't have those boards either.
Really impressed by this GUI, and the speed of your progress! I'll be willing to pay for it when it reaches official release stage. 8-)
Thank you :D
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:30 am
For now, could you make it possible to resize the engine name/clock area.

It seems to me that the clock/engine name is very small in relation to the board and other windows. :mrgreen:
I have added it to my TODO list. I will improve soon.
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:30 am

Another issue is that for engines with drop-down options (such as Komodo 13.2/ProDeo or Rodent 4's personality options) these do not appear, only an empty space. :cry:
Oops! Thanks for the report. It is a bug and will be fixed for the next release.
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Re: Banksia GUI released..A Few Issues

Post by phhnguyen » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:53 am

supersharp77 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 pm
Guenther wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:03 am
phhnguyen wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:32 am
...
supersharp77 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:16 pm
and lack of a adjudication button for the tourney games...
When creating a tournament, you can find Adjudication box (near the bottom of the dialog window). At the moment, users can turn on/off, adjudicate games by length (set 0 if you want to ignore) and by probing Syzygy.

If you need different functions, tell me :)

Image
...
At least adjudication by eval should be added. (with a condition)
Agreed......Also Need A box for each engines estimated rating strength when engine is added to the GUI...that way as tournament goes forward you can follow the ratings...
It is not hard for me to add simple boxes to show/maintain manually engines' ELOs. However, I don't know yet how to calculate/maintain them (ELOs) automatically. If you (and other users) think OK for that simple boxes (for manually entering), I may implement them soon.
supersharp77 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 pm
Also unable to create opening book from a pgn file or a database file "create opening book for GUI"....
Thanks for the idea. I have added it to my TODO list :D
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Re: Banksia GUI released..A Few Issues

Post by Gabor Szots » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:05 pm

phhnguyen wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:53 am
It is not hard for me to add simple boxes to show/maintain manually engines' ELOs. However, I don't know yet how to calculate/maintain them (ELOs) automatically. If you (and other users) think OK for that simple boxes (for manually entering), I may implement them soon.
If you ever implement this please spell the name 'Elo'.
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Re: Banksia GUI released..A Few Issues

Post by phhnguyen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:41 pm

Gabor Szots wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:05 pm
If you ever implement this please spell the name 'Elo'.
Thanks!
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Banksia GUI version 0.9

Post by phhnguyen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:46 pm

Version 0.9 released


1) Bugs fixed: BSG is fixed almost all known bugs so far, including:
- Mem leak (one of the hardest bugs)
- Cannot add new opening books for tournaments
- Standard time controller did not add time correctly after a lap

2) Multi small improvements/adjustments

3) New features
- Improve graphics: customization for pieces and panel background, workable for lower resolution screens
- Nesting docking. The below image illustrates a complicated way to dock.
- Pickup and view engine-logs


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Notes:
- BSG now use colors with alpha channel (transparency) for everything it needs. Thus some color settings from previous versions may become completely transparent (alpha = 0). Color boxes of the below image (WDL) are transparent. Check and increase alpha if you see that problem

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Re: Banksia GUI version 0.9

Post by Guenther » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:03 pm

phhnguyen wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:46 pm
Version 0.9 released


1) Bugs fixed: BSG is fixed almost all known bugs so far, including:
- Mem leak (one of the hardest bugs)
- Cannot add new opening books for tournaments
- Standard time controller did not add time correctly after a lap

2) Multi small improvements/adjustments

3) New features
- Improve graphics: customization for pieces and panel background, workable for lower resolution screens
- Nesting docking. The below image illustrates a complicated way to dock.
- Pickup and view engine-logs

Notes:
- BSG now use colors with alpha channel (transparency) for everything it needs. Thus some color settings from previous versions may become completely transparent (alpha = 0). Color boxes of the below image (WDL) are transparent. Check and increase alpha if you see that problem
Thanks for the new release and some bug fixes.

Is it possible that some popcount instructions are used when trying to adjudicate by syzygy?
Just an idea, because this would explain the crashing here.

BTW what is the condition for the introduded adjudication by score?
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Re: Banksia GUI version 0.9

Post by phhnguyen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:27 pm

Guenther wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:03 pm
Thanks for the new release and some bug fixes.

Is it possible that some popcount instructions are used when trying to adjudicate by syzygy?
Just an idea, because this would explain the crashing here.
Thanks for the idea!
I have been struggling with that issue. On one hand, I cannot reproduce the crash on my system. In another hand, I use Syzygy probe code from other programmers (from Fathom code) thus right now I don't know how to "enhancement" that code to get useful info/prevent it from crashing.

If you can please try some different configurations to help me to narrow the problem (check which configuration runs well, which one not)
1) Turn off adjudication
2) Remove completely Syzygy from tournaments (BSG and engines stop using it)
3) Fewer man, say 3-4 only
Guenther wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:03 pm
BTW what is the condition for the introduded adjudication by score?
At the moment BSG adjudicates a game as a loss for the last move engine if:
- Resign score > 0 (thus, set it to zero to ignore). The unit is centi pawn
- Both last two moves of that engine have negative scores with absolutely value >= resign score

I don't implement adjudications by draw scores (as some chess GUI did) since I don't know the logic (how to adjudicate?).
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Re: Banksia GUI version 0.9

Post by Guenther » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:25 pm

phhnguyen wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:27 pm

If you can please try some different configurations to help me to narrow the problem (check which configuration runs well, which one not)
1) Turn off adjudication
2) Remove completely Syzygy from tournaments (BSG and engines stop using it)
3) Fewer man, say 3-4 only
1) It does not crash with few men w/o Syzygy adjudication - engines still using Syzygy_5
3) It also crashes with Syzygy_4 men tables adjudication (created a new folder with 3-4 men only)

2) is obsolete because 1) already worked

Here Rubi tried to get ridd off its Q to reach a syzygy 4 men position, in the second attempt Ethereal took it
and Banksia crashed - nothing anymore in the log after Kxe4...




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4.18:11:48 RubiChess_13-64> bestmove e5e4
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64< position startpos moves b2b4 d7d5 c1b2 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 e2e3 g8f6 a2a3 a7a5 b4b5 c7c5 c2c4 b8d7 f1e2 d5c4 e2c4 a8c8 e1g1 f8e7 b1c3 e8g8 a1c1 d8c7 c3a4 e7d6 h2h3 h7h6 d2d3 f5g6 f3h4 g6h7 h4f3 f8d8 c4a2 f6d5 d3d4 d5b6 a4b6 d7b6 d4c5 d6c5 b2d4 c7b8 d1d2 b8a8 f3e5 h7e4 f2f3 e4f5 e5c6 b7c6 c1c5 b6a4 c5c4 c6b5 c4c8 d8c8 f1c1 c8c1 d2c1 a8f8 c1c6 f5d3 c6c7 f8e8 a2b3 e8f8 g1f2 g8h8 c7d7 h8h7 b3d1 f7f6 d1a4 b5a4 d4f6 f8f6 d7d3 h7g8 d3c2 f6h4 f2f1 g8f7 c2c7 f7e8 c7c6 e8e7 c6c7 e7e8 c7c8 e8e7 c8b7 e7f8 b7b5 f8e7 f3f4 h4f6 b5a4 f6c3 f1e2 g7g5 e2f3 g5f4 f3f4 c3d2 f4f3 d2d5 f3g3 d5d6 g3g4 d6d5 g4g3 d5d6 g3g4 d6c5 a4b3 h6h5 g4g3 c5e5 g3f2 e5f5 f2g1 f5c5 g1f2 c5f5 f2g1 f5e5 b3b7 e7f6 g1f2 f6g6 f2e2 e5f5 b7c6 g6h6 c6d6 h6g6 d6d4 h5h4 d4c4 f5h5 e2f2 h5f5 f2e1 f5b1 e1e2 b1f5 a3a4 f5h5 e2e1 g6f6 e1f2 f6e7 c4c7 e7f8 c7d6 f8f7 d6d7 f7f6 d7d8 f6f7 d8d6 h5f5 d6f4 f5f4 e3f4 f7f6 f2e2 f6f5 e2f3 f5g6 f3g4 g6f6 g4h4 f6f5 g2g4 f5f4 g4g5 f4f5 h4h5 e6e5 g5g6 f5e6 h5h6 e6d6 g6g7 d6c5 g7g8q e5e4 g8e6 c5d4 e6f6 d4c4 f6f5 e4e3 f5a5 c4d3 a5b6 e3e2 b6b5 d3c3 b5e2 c3d4 e2e5 d4d3 e5e4
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64< go wtime 17986 btime 10839 winc 0 binc 0 movestogo 17
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 1 seldepth 3 score cp -1747 time 0 nodes 59 nps 59000 tbhits 0 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 a4a5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 2 seldepth 5 score cp -1823 time 0 nodes 216 nps 216000 tbhits 2 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4d3 d2c1 a4a5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 3 seldepth 7 score cp -1876 time 0 nodes 707 nps 707000 tbhits 7 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4d3 d2c1 d3d2 c1b1 h6h5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 4 seldepth 9 score cp -1876 time 0 nodes 2511 nps 2511000 tbhits 16 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e2 d2c3 e2d3 c3b2 d3c2 b2a1 c2g2
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 5 seldepth 9 score cp -2877 time 0 nodes 3214 nps 3214000 tbhits 46 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e2 d2c3 e2d3 c3b2 a4a5 b2a1 d3b5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 6 seldepth 13 score cp -2877 time 0 nodes 4607 nps 4607000 tbhits 65 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e2 d2c3 e2d3 c3b2 d3e4 b2c3 e4e3 c3c2 e3d4
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 7 seldepth 15 score cp -2828 time 16 nodes 7661 nps 450000 tbhits 113 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e2 d2c3 e2d3 c3b2 d3d4 b2b1 h3h4 b1a2 a4a5 a2a3
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 8 seldepth 17 score cp -2828 time 16 nodes 12937 nps 761000 tbhits 266 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e3 d2c2 e3d4 c2b1 h3h4 b1a2 a4a5 a2a3 d4e5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 9 seldepth 17 score cp -2828 time 16 nodes 17873 nps 1051000 tbhits 389 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4e3 d2c2 e3d4 c2c1 d4b2 c1d1 b2e2 d1c1 e2d2 c1b1 a4a5 b1a1 d2d4
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 10 seldepth 20 score cp -2911 time 32 nodes 55845 nps 1692000 tbhits 3925 hashfull 661 pv d3d2 e4d3 d2c1 a4a5 c1b2 a5a6 b2c1 d3e2 c1b1 a6a7 b1c1 a7a8q
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 11 seldepth 23 score cp -2832 time 32 nodes 58774 nps 1781000 tbhits 3931 hashfull 661 pv d3c3 e4e2 c3d4 e2e5 d4d3 e5d6 d3e4 d6f4 e4d3 f4f3 d3d4 f3e2 d4d5 e2e4 d5d6 e4e5 d6d7 e5c7 d7e6 h6h5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 12 seldepth 27 score cp -2832 time 78 nodes 177617 nps 2248000 tbhits 7623 hashfull 661 pv d3c3 e4e2 c3d4 e2d3 d4e5 d3e4 e5d6 e4d5 d6e7 d5d7 e7f6 d7c7 f6e6 h6h5 e6f6 c7d6 f6f5 h5h6 f5e4 d6f4 e4d3 f4f3 d3d4 f3e2 d4d5
4.18:11:48 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 13 seldepth 29 score cp -2832 time 125 nodes 322583 nps 2560000 tbhits 14174 hashfull 661 pv d3c3 e4e2 c3d4 e2d3 d4e5 d3e4 e5d6 e4e5 d6d7 h6h7 d7c6 e5c5 c6d7 c5b6 d7e7 b6c7 e7f8 c7e5 f8f7 e5c5 f7e6 c5c6 e6e7 h7h6 e7d8 c6d5 d8e7
4.18:11:51 Ethereal_965-64> info depth 14 seldepth 38 score cp -2868 time 3167 nodes 9143004 nps 2886000 tbhits 347143 hashfull 661 pv d3e4 a4a5 e4d4 a5a6 d4c3 a6a7 c3b2 a7a8q b2c1 a8e4 c1d2 e4c2 d2e3 c2f2 e3e4 f2e3 e4d5 e3e5 d5c4 e5e4 c4b5 e4e5
4.18:11:51 Ethereal_965-64> bestmove d3e4
BTW swap sides seems not to work for my pgn file set as opening book?
Each position selected there should be played from both sides.
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Re: Banksia GUI released

Post by Steppenwolf » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:53 am

Thanks for your nice GUI with a lot of features!

Is it possible in your GUI under Mac to run two (or three) engines (SF and Komodo) simultanously at one position to compare the output of each engines?

Can you implement in your GUI to read and use the Chessbase Megabase Format CBH as well as the Fritz Powerbook CTG?

That is planned in the next HCE release: http://www.hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9768

That would be great for a free GUI for several platforms!

Keep going on with your nice tool!

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