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I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 pm

I got a TR3970x which will be delivered in a few days.
Only 2 2080 supers, but the price was so good, I could not hold off (about $7000 after tax and shipping).
I think I will wait for the 7nm+ TR to get the next one, probably late 2020 or early 2021.

I got one of those stupid fast AORUS PCIE 4 m.2 drives for my system disk.

I will probably be sorry I did not wait for the 3990x in about 5 months, but then it would have been harder to get a 4990x.
:wink:
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by MOBMAT » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:56 pm

Gee, Dad, can I have your hand me downs? LOL
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:14 pm

Well, I am about to retire Ezekiel (my 64 core box that does about 47M NPS on the Asmfish bench).
This new box will do more than twice the NPS at 1/3 of the power.
If you want to pay for crating and shipping, I would send you that machine (but keep the sound proof box).
Warning, it weighs 100KG, so the shipping would be rather high.
And the 4 1200 watt power supplies suck juice with a slurp and a burp.
These are two recent messages from my power company:

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Billing period Nov 16, 2019 – Dec 15, 2019 

Compared to this time last year, your electricity use is projected to be 36% higher. 

 That’s 1,166 kWh more than the same time last year. 

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You used 83% more than your neighbors.
Efficient Neighbors 	 	 	1,240 kWh	 
All Neighbors 	 	 	1,678 kWh	 
You 	 	 	3,077 kWh	 

Oct 18, 2019 - Nov 15, 2019 
This is based on 95 similar homes an average of 1 mi from you. Efficient neighbors are the most efficient 20% of this group. 
Learn more. 
In the winter, when I run it like gangbusters, I get electric bills of $600 to $700 per month.
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:29 pm

If you should plan to run it inside of an ordinary house, a sound proof box is necessary.
When the squirrel cage blowers hit full bore it sounds like a jet airplane taking off.
You can't watch TV in the same room with it, and conversations are difficult.
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by MOBMAT » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:38 am

I was just joking. I live in an old condo which only has 100amp service. I think it would fry my circuits! On the up side, I don't pay for electricity, though.

It "sounds" like a real beast!

Oops, clicked submit before preview.

I'm using a hand me down from my son who bought a new gaming PC.
This one is only 4-core, but as mentioned, I can't put too much on any one circuit.
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by MikeB » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:35 am

Dann Corbit wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 pm
I got a TR3970x which will be delivered in a few days.
Only 2 2080 supers, but the price was so good, I could not hold off (about $7000 after tax and shipping).
I think I will wait for the 7nm+ TR to get the next one, probably late 2020 or early 2021.

I got one of those stupid fast AORUS PCIE 4 m.2 drives for my system disk.

I will probably be sorry I did not wait for the 3990x in about 5 months, but then it would have been harder to get a 4990x.
:wink:
haha I also joined the TR3970x club, but went just one lowly 2060 Super for now, Special , no tax, no shipping fees , about $5K total

including a Crucial P1 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD (rated 2000/1750 MBs), delivery around 12/25 ( didn't pull the string until Monday) - how about that for timing?
dually 2080 Supers , would have raise the total cost to $6500.

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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by MikeB » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:36 am

MikeB wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:35 am
Dann Corbit wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:14 pm
I got a TR3970x which will be delivered in a few days.
Only 2 2080 supers, but the price was so good, I could not hold off (about $7000 after tax and shipping).
I think I will wait for the 7nm+ TR to get the next one, probably late 2020 or early 2021.

I got one of those stupid fast AORUS PCIE 4 m.2 drives for my system disk.

I will probably be sorry I did not wait for the 3990x in about 5 months, but then it would have been harder to get a 4990x.
:wink:
haha I also joined the TR3970x club, but went just one lowly 2060 Super for now, Special , no tax, no shipping fees , about $5K total

including a Crucial P1 1TB PCIe M.2 SSD (rated 2000/1750 MBs), delivery around 12/25 ( didn't pull the string until Monday) - how about that for timing?
dually 2080 Supers , would have raise the total cost to $6500.
here's a link for anyone who wants to price out a TR system - free shipping in the US till the end of the week ...

www.velocitymicro.com

before you buy, pm me first ... as a member in their affiliate program, I may be able to get you a slightly better price ( a few bucks, nothing earth shattering)

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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by smcracraft » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:51 am

Dann, that's a monster - what kind of R&D do you plan with it?

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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:20 am

It will be doing projects around the clock
Sometimes analyzing openings
Sometimes analyzing ancient or modern games (especially correspondence)
Sometimes working on special chess problem sets
I plan to modernize my systems to get the electric company to leave me alone

The 3970 system is about as powerful as 2/3 of the systems I have at home.
I have other equipment not at home.
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Re: I bought a stop-gap machine

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:51 am

I bought this:

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Item Description 	Unit Price × Qty 	Total

AMD Threadripper Xtreme (NO MONITOR)

    *BASE_PRICE: [+3075]
    CABLE: None
    CARE1: CPU Thermal Compound - Our Cooler Master MASTERGEL High Performance Thermal Compound can improve cooling performance as well as prolong the life of your CPU. [+10]
    CAS: EVGA DG-8 E-ATX Full-Tower Ultimate Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window [+83] (EVGA DG-85 K-Boost)
    CASUPGRADE: None
    CC: None
    CD: None
    CPU: AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper 3970X 3.7GHz [4.5GHz Turbo] 32Core 64Threads 144MB L3 Cache 280W Processor (Ship On or After Dec 6 2019) [+620]
    CS_FAN: Default case fans
    ENGRAVING: None
    EVGA_POWER: None
    FA_HDD: None
    FAN: Asetek 690LS 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate - Extreme Performance [+22] (3 x Standard 120MM Fans)
    HDD: 1TB GIGABYTE AORUS (PCIe Gen4) NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 5000/4400 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 750/700k [+93] (Single Drive)
    HDD2: 8TB (8TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+260] (8TB x 2 (16TB Capacity) RAID 0 Super Performance [+260])
    HEADSET: None
    IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    KEYBOARD: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
    MEMORY: 64GB (16GBx4) DDR4/3200MHz Quad Channel Memory [+246] (Performance Memory by Major Brands)
    MICROPHONE: None
    MONITOR: None
    MOPAD: None
    MOTHERBOARD: ASUS ROG Zenith II Extreme E-ATX w/ WiFi 6, RGB, Dual LAN, 4 PCIe x16, 8 SATA3, 5 M.2 SATA/PCIe [+525]
    MOUSE: CyberPowerPC Standard 4000 DPI with Weight System Optical Gaming Mouse
    NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    OS: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
    OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
    POWERSUPPLY: 1,600 Watts - LEPA G1600-MA 80 Plus Gold Certified Modular Power Supply [-13]
    PRO_WIRING: None
    PROJECTOR: None
    RUSH: Standard processing time: Guaranteed Delivery Before Christmas
    SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
    SLI_BRIDGE: EVGA GeForce RTX NVLink SLI Bridge [+91]
    SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    SPEAKERS: None
    USBHD: None
    USBX: None
    VIDEO: EVGA GeForce® RTX 2080 SUPER™ BLACK Gaming 8GB GDDR6 (Turing) [VR Ready] [+260] (Dual Card (SLI) [+858])
    WARRANTY: PREMIUM WARRANTY: Standard 1 Year Parts WARRANTY + ONE (1) YEAR SHIPPING [+19]
    WNC: None
    WTV: None
    _PRICE: (+6428)

	$6,428.00 × 1 	$6,428.00
Subtotal: $6,428.00
Sales Tax: 10%$650.30
Shipping UPS Ground: $75.00
Grand Total: $7,153.30

Note: Your order will be shipped the next day after the production is completed.
I also ordered another big fast Nvme drive for swap.
I wanted 128 GB ram, but they only sold it with 64. I can retrofit it later
it only comes with Windows, but that is easy to fix. i put Ubuntu on a 1 GB ssd and boot from that,
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