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SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by MOBMAT » Sat May 23, 2020 10:42 pm

I need a recommendation for an internal 2TB SATA SSD.

I'm trying to consolidate all my EGTBs which I currently have on a 256Mb USB3 flash drive. I can't fit the Nav 6 man files on it though, but in total, all the EGTBs I have take up about 1.2TB

I saw this unit on Amazon (cheapest)
Crucial BX500 2TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5-Inch Internal SSD - CT2000BX500SSD1

I don't have much experience with this type of device.
Any recommendations?
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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by jdart » Sat May 23, 2020 10:51 pm

Samsung 860 PRO and 860 EVO series are good in my experience. M.2 drives are faster though (Samsung 970 series).

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by MOBMAT » Sat May 23, 2020 11:13 pm

oh, the PCLe devices.
I do have a M.2 port for one of those, though it is directly next to the GPU which I would have to take out to see if an SSD would fit. The speed is very impressive but it appears the 970 series is very expensive (twice as much as a SATA drive).
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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by Zenmastur » Sun May 24, 2020 7:50 am

MOBMAT wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 11:13 pm
oh, the PCLe devices.
I do have a M.2 port for one of those, though it is directly next to the GPU which I would have to take out to see if an SSD would fit. The speed is very impressive but it appears the 970 series is very expensive (twice as much as a SATA drive).
If you have an M.2 slot in your motherboard it's better to use it than a sata drive. e.g.
Sabrent Rocket Q 2TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3200/2900 MB/s (SB-RKTQ-2TB) for $229 is MUCH MUCH faster than any SATA drive. The "2280" means is 22 mm wide by 80mm long, which is a "standard" size drive and should fit in almost all MB M.2 slots. You can either check your motherboard manual or measure the distance from the connectors to the retaining hole.

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by Dann Corbit » Sun May 24, 2020 6:11 pm

If you have a really fast CPU it matters a lot to use the m.2 drives.
My 3970x was definitely bottlenecked by using a 5MB/Sec thumb drive.
The 1 TB thumb drive would saturate at 100% and the NPS rate would go to 10% of the full NPS. Changing to ultra-fast m.2 SSDs I see no slowdown whatsoever and at over 100MB/sec in TB heavy positions, the drive is nowhere close to saturated.
I guess if you have a slower CPU you can buy a cheaper drive and it will not matter much.
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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by yurikvelo » Sun May 24, 2020 7:37 pm

If you have ATX (not laptop) PCI-E to NVME adapter cost $3 and you do not have to invest in outdated technologies
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PCI-E 3.0 x4 SSD are about 5x faster (seq read) than SATA-III

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by yurikvelo » Sun May 24, 2020 8:19 pm

2TB Intel 660P (SSDPEKNW020T8X1) is about +15% in price to Crucial SATA.
It has 1800/1800 MB/sec linear speeds and 220 000 IOPS (Crucial = 95 000 IOPS)

Samsung 970 is much more expensive, but much faster: linear speeds are 3500/3300 and 560 000 IOPS

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by Zenmastur » Mon May 25, 2020 5:55 am

Dann Corbit wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 6:11 pm
If you have a really fast CPU it matters a lot to use the m.2 drives.
My 3970x was definitely bottlenecked by using a 5MB/Sec thumb drive.
The 1 TB thumb drive would saturate at 100% and the NPS rate would go to 10% of the full NPS. Changing to ultra-fast m.2 SSDs I see no slowdown whatsoever and at over 100MB/sec in TB heavy positions, the drive is nowhere close to saturated.
I guess if you have a slower CPU you can buy a cheaper drive and it will not matter much.
I've seen my M.2 PCIe Ver.4 drive sustain 3.5Gb/sec for many minutes as a result of massive TB requests by the CPU. The drive is rated at 750,000 IOPS and 5Gb/sec. Even at this very fast pace it slows the NPS down by about 30% or so (90Mnps reduced to 60Mnps with heavy TB requests). The disk que was between 3 and 10 requests long (mostly around 5). In order to have as little effect as possible a 3 or 4 drive raid array with 10-15Gb/sec and ~3,000,000 IOPS sustained is likely needed. This is my next upgrade! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: SSD SATA Recommendation

Post by yurikvelo » Mon May 25, 2020 6:12 am

Zenmastur wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:55 am
a 3 or 4 drive raid array with 10-15Gb/sec and ~3,000,000 IOPS sustained is likely needed.
Does it really exist such kind of controller? Which interface bus will it use?

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