invitation to a new deterministic no opening tournament

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Uri Blass
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Re: invitation to a new deterministic no opening tournament

Post by Uri Blass »

RubiChess wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:43 pm What's that? You promised that "it [RubiChess] is too slow to participate in my tournament".
Unfortunately I did not find faster candidates to win against stockfish 3M nodes per move or berserk 5M nodes per move but maybe I did not make enough tries.

I may try later stockfish developement version but unfortunately it has no contempt and I will not be surprised if it get only draws even with 100M nodes per move.
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Re: invitation to a new deterministic no opening tournament

Post by Uri Blass »

stockfish developement version could win with 100M nodes per move

[pgn][Event "Computer event"] [Site "Somewhere on Earth"] [Date "2024.02.22"] [Time "13:37:33"] [Round "1"] [Board "1"] [White "Stockfish dev-20240217-fc41f64d"] [Black "Stockfish 15"] [Result "1-0"] [Termination "mate"] [ECO "E04"] [Opening "Catalan"] [TimeControl "nodes: 100000;nodes: 10000000"] [PlyCount "135"] 1.d4 {+0.2/38 129415 100000522} Nf6 {+0.4/25 2600 3000087} 2.c4 {+0.2/39 127651 100000520} e6 {+0.3/24 2652 3000396} 3.g3 {+0.1/42 124719 100000191} d5 {+0.5/23 2633 3001148} 4.Bg2 {+0.1/41 121893 100000473} dxc4 {+0.4/24 2606 3000988; E01: Catalan, closed} 5.Nf3 {+0.2/38 126609 100000468} a6 {+0.4/25 2610 3001437; E04: Catalan, open, 5.Nf3} 6.O-O {+0.3/39 121861 100000310} Nc6 {+0.2/25 2520 3000855} 7.e3 {+0.3/39 119798 100000558} Bd7 {+0.2/25 2434 3001242} 8.Qe2 {+0.3/40 119837 100000268} b5 {+0.3/25 2434 3000878} 9.Rd1 {+0.4/35 119794 100000021} Bd6 {+0.1/24 2455 3000958} 10.e4 {+0.2/38 116304 100000556} Be7 {+0.4/23 2465 3000688} 11.b3 {+0.3/36 118933 100000676} cxb3 {+0.3/23 2516 3001257} 12.axb3 {+0.3/38 114513 100000630} O-O {+0.4/24 2460 3000055} 13.Nc3 {+0.3/39 116520 100000248} h6 {+0.4/23 2459 3001267} 14.h3 {+0.4/35 116339 100000226} Re8 {+0.2/22 2535 3000493} 15.Kh2 {+0.4/37 120079 100000660} Bb4 {+0.1/22 2559 3001648} 16.Bb2 {+0.5/37 119697 100000032} Be7 {+0.2/22 2551 3000960} 17.Rac1 {+0.4/36 113093 100000743} Qc8 {+0.6/22 2538 3000507} 18.e5 {+0.7/37 113370 100000106} Nd5 {+0.4/25 2463 3000168} 19.Nxd5 {+0.6/41 109641 100000264} exd5 {+0.4/25 2431 3000706} 20.Nh4 {+0.6/42 105412 100000061} Bxh4 {+0.4/25 2373 3000002} 21.Bxd5 {+0.5/43 104669 100000514} Ne7 {+0.3/25 2348 3001072} 22.Bh1 {+1.3/35 108194 100000024} Be6 {+0.5/21 2473 3001111} 23.d5 {+1.4/36 108168 100000639} Nxd5 {+0.5/23 2388 3000546} 24.gxh4 {+1.3/36 105052 100000178} Ne7 {+0.6/22 2365 3000676} 25.Rg1 {+1.3/39 107680 100000454} Kh8 {+0.9/21 2374 3000042} 26.Be4 {+1.3/44 103854 100000118} Rg8 {+1.0/20 2267 3000855} 27.Rc3 {+1.3/39 103623 100000812} c5 {+1.2/19 2280 3001087} 28.Rcg3 {+3.5/35 104985 100000343} Qf8 {+1.7/23 2327 3000885} 29.Qd2 {+3.7/37 96129 100000426} Rd8 {+3.4/21 2403 3000376} 30.Rxg7 {+3.8/37 93281 100000133} Qxg7 {+3.4/22 2382 3000308} 31.Rxg7 {+3.8/37 91472 100000544} Kxg7 {+3.6/23 2411 3001171} 32.Qf4 {+4.0/36 88975 100000044} Nd5 {+4.0/21 2312 3001488} 33.Qf3 {+4.0/37 86693 100000629} Rh8 {+4.4/22 2279 3000172} 34.Bc1 {+4.2/35 93207 100000148} Kf8 {+4.3/23 2264 3001213} 35.Qh5 {+4.4/34 88508 100000782} Ne7 {+5.0/21 2374 3000285} 36.f4 {+4.7/35 79434 100000072} Bd5 {+4.9/19 2435 3000463} 37.Bxd5 {+4.8/35 68738 100001049} Rxd5 {+5.7/19 2314 3000950} 38.Qf3 {+5.0/35 69832 100000741} Rd8 {+6.0/19 2259 3001242} 39.f5 {+5.1/37 76453 100000115} Nd5 {+6.4/20 2264 3001327} 40.Qh5 {+5.4/37 70124 100000066} Ke8 {+6.0/20 2488 3000246} 41.e6 {+5.7/35 64348 100000238} Rh7 {+6.1/20 2252 3000286} 42.Bxh6 {+5.8/37 63851 100000223} Rc8 {+6.6/19 2153 3000781} 43.Qg5 {+6.0/34 70724 100000360} Ne7 {+7.1/21 2339 3001552} 44.f6 {+6.0/37 70832 100000238} fxe6 {+7.2/21 2385 3001215} 45.fxe7 {+6.1/36 69266 100000251} Rxe7 {+7.4/21 2253 3000470} 46.h5 {+6.2/34 68605 100000506} Kd7 {+7.1/20 2271 3000004} 47.Bg7 {+6.4/33 67240 100000298} Rf7 {+7.9/19 2443 3001185} 48.h6 {+6.6/32 64916 100000647} Rf2+ {+8.4/17 2316 3000582} 49.Kg3 {+6.8/32 59893 100000100} Rf5 {+8.3/20 2178 3000977} 50.Qe3 {+7.2/34 54240 100000619} Ke7 {+8.9/19 2045 3000660} 51.Be5 {+7.9/34 49739 100000684} Kf7 {+9.2/17 1976 3001129} 52.Kh4 {+9.1/35 44769 100000896} a5 {+10.8/17 1917 3000190} 53.Qe4 {M+41/40 46929 100000501} Rxe5 {+11.9/18 1848 3000114} 54.Qxe5 {M+23/41 46247 100000611} Ke7 {+13.3/19 1675 3001710} 55.h7 {M+21/44 46481 100000045} Kd7 {+14.7/19 1563 3001075} 56.h8=Q {M+18/47 44228 100000380} Rxh8+ {+16.9/16 1648 3001822} 57.Qxh8 {M+16/51 37322 100000268} Kd6 {+17.9/17 1430 3000674} 58.Qb8+ {M+15/50 44180 100000187} Kd5 {+20.3/21 1503 3000623} 59.Qxb5 {M+13/52 32664 100000142} e5 {+24.8/22 1387 3001537} 60.Kg4 {M+10/57 42373 100000431} Kd6 {+56.8/21 1294 3000461} 61.Kf5 {M+8/65 40140 100000052} e4 {M-11/26 1470 3001527} 62.Kxe4 {M+7/90 29857 100000460} a4 {M-7/30 1712 3000462} 63.Qb6+ {M+6/147 22972 100000290} Ke7 {M-5/46 1315 3000337} 64.Ke5 {M+5/245 4467 21458587} Kf7 {M-4/245 480 2932784} 65.Kf5 {M+4/245 35 105371} axb3 {M-3/245 49 156575} 66.Qc7+ {M+3/245 25 21260} Kg8 {M-2/245 29 8606} 67.Kf6 {M+2/245 21 8286} b2 {M-1/245 22 1239} 68.Qg7# {M+1/245 25 6376} 1-0 [/pgn]
Uri Blass
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Re: invitation to a new deterministic no opening tournament

Post by Uri Blass »

stockfish developement drew the second game with black.


[pgn][Event "Computer event"] [Site "Somewhere on Earth"] [Date "2024.02.22"] [Time "18:11:16"] [Round "1"] [Board "1"] [White "Stockfish 15"] [Black "Stockfish dev-20240217-fc41f64d"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [Termination "fifty moves"] [ECO "C67"] [Opening "Ruy Lopez"] [TimeControl "nodes: 10000000;nodes: 5000000"] [PlyCount "232"] 1.e4 {+0.4/23 2747 3001194} e5 {+0.2/39 133863 100000172} 2.Nf3 {+0.4/27 2840 3000509} Nc6 {+0.2/40 130785 100000271} 3.Bb5 {+0.4/28 2640 3000493} Nf6 {+0.2/41 126439 100000196} 4.O-O {+0.3/28 2545 3000130} Nxe4 {+0.1/44 130753 100000329} 5.Re1 {+0.4/30 2800 3000094; C67: Ruy Lopez, Berlin defence, open variation} Nd6 {+0.1/45 140414 100000200} 6.Nxe5 {+0.3/32 3216 3001005} Be7 {+0.1/45 133058 100000317} 7.Bf1 {+0.3/30 2662 3000261} Nxe5 {+0.1/44 136061 100000495} 8.Rxe5 {+0.2/30 2609 3000634} O-O {+0.1/43 135895 100000052} 9.d4 {+0.2/28 2512 3000934} Bf6 {+0.1/44 133122 100000007} 10.Re1 {+0.2/29 2429 3000823} Re8 {+0.1/46 133753 100000375} 11.c3 {+0.2/28 2521 3001410} Rxe1 {+0.1/42 136269 100000039} 12.Qxe1 {+0.3/27 2583 3000840} Ne8 {+0.2/43 131455 100000580} 13.Bf4 {+0.3/28 2530 3000333} d5 {+0.1/44 130676 100000531} 14.Nd2 {+0.4/25 2474 3000424} Bf5 {+0.1/40 134505 100000152} 15.Qe3 {+0.2/26 3093 3000315} c6 {+0.1/40 142808 100000723} 16.Re1 {+0.2/25 2797 3000449} Nd6 {+0.1/39 146161 100000368} 17.Qg3 {+0.4/23 2827 3001366} Ne4 {+0.1/41 147987 100000077} 18.Nxe4 {+0.3/23 2806 3000963} Bxe4 {+0.1/43 146822 100000351} 19.Be2 {+0.2/21 2819 3001314} Bh4 {+0.1/40 148164 100000504} 20.Qg4 {+0.3/23 2789 3000631} Be7 {+0.1/43 146859 100000315} 21.Bd1 {+0.3/26 2961 3000136} a5 {+0.1/44 144052 100000270} 22.a4 {+0.2/24 2856 3000784} Bd6 {+0.0/44 142605 100000691} 23.h4 {+0.1/22 2808 3000198} Qc7 {+0.0/45 143132 100000015} 24.Bxd6 {+0.1/26 2859 3001034} Qxd6 {+0.0/44 132776 100000380} 25.Qe2 {+0.2/26 2824 3000391} h6 {+0.0/50 123383 100000265} 26.Qd2 {+0.2/25 2478 3000047} Qd8 {+0.1/45 127145 100000612} 27.f3 {+0.2/24 2610 3000404} Bg6 {+0.0/51 127790 100000620} 28.g3 {+0.2/26 2611 3000625} Qd7 {+0.0/54 117550 100000636} 29.g4 {+0.0/27 2593 3000986} Re8 {+0.0/57 116294 100000012} 30.h5 {+0.0/28 2695 3000855} Bh7 {+0.0/55 122220 100000256} 31.Rxe8+ {+0.0/30 2899 3001298} Qxe8 {+0.0/61 126532 100000514} 32.Kf2 {+0.0/32 2626 3000046} Qe7 {+0.0/59 120269 100000326} 33.Qf4 {+0.0/33 2695 3000327} Bb1 {+0.0/60 110544 100000069} 34.Qe5 {+0.0/35 2370 3000691} Qg5 {+0.0/53 110176 100000326} 35.Qxg5 {+0.0/31 1967 3001045} hxg5 {+0.0/61 86441 100000163} 36.Ke3 {+0.0/32 1893 3000219} Kf8 {+0.0/64 75181 100000557} 37.Kd2 {+0.0/35 1894 3000349} Bh7 {+0.0/64 67167 100000587} 38.Bc2 {+0.0/31 1636 3000987} Bxc2 {+0.0/64 66559 100000037} 39.Kxc2 {+0.0/34 1941 3000822} Ke7 {+0.0/66 68260 100000156} 40.b3 {+0.0/35 1755 3000992} Kd6 {+0.0/65 66549 100000093} 41.b4 {+0.0/35 1625 3000449} b6 {+0.0/69 54476 100000201} 42.bxa5 {+0.0/36 1382 3000709} bxa5 {+0.0/73 38580 100000478} 43.Kd3 {+0.0/40 1294 3001035} Ke7 {+0.0/75 39741 100000062} 44.c4 {+0.0/39 1296 3000626} dxc4+ {+0.0/69 60317 100000643} 45.Kxc4 {+0.0/36 1809 3000334} Kd6 {+0.0/73 55721 100000527} 46.Kd3 {+0.0/38 2007 3000404} Kd5 {+0.0/72 51966 100000115} 47.Kc3 {+0.0/40 1850 3000798} Ke6 {+0.0/72 55550 100000531} 48.Kc4 {+0.0/43 1592 3000526} Kd6 {+0.0/76 42136 100000552} 49.Kd3 {+0.0/44 1670 3000494} Kd5 {+0.0/76 45396 100000636} 50.f4 {+0.0/43 1621 3000278} gxf4 {+0.0/75 53628 100000476} 51.g5 {+0.0/46 1366 3001243} Ke6 {+0.0/79 37293 100000589} 52.Ke4 {+0.0/48 1370 3000768} f3 {+0.0/79 42269 100000732} 53.Kxf3 {+0.0/49 1366 3000776} Kf5 {+0.0/79 32843 100000319} 54.h6 {+0.0/50 1311 3001136} gxh6 {+0.0/78 29219 100000179} 55.gxh6 {+0.0/50 1418 3000817} Kg6 {+0.0/76 26127 100000138} 56.Kf4 {+0.0/50 1202 3000372} Kxh6 {+0.0/76 28449 100000851} 57.Kf5 {+0.0/49 1268 3000241} Kh5 {+0.0/72 35031 100000280} 58.Ke5 {+0.0/48 1433 3000464} Kg4 {+0.0/75 37147 100000146} 59.Kd6 {+0.0/48 1269 3000487} f5 {+0.0/77 41554 100000988} 60.Kxc6 {+0.0/49 1212 3000820} f4 {+0.0/77 37007 100000663} 61.d5 {+0.0/48 1259 3000777} f3 {+0.0/75 40768 100000245} 62.d6 {+0.0/48 1257 3000327} f2 {+0.0/76 41335 100000019} 63.d7 {+0.0/49 1154 3001535} f1=Q {+0.0/75 33847 100000191} 64.d8=Q {+0.0/49 1156 3000236} Qc4+ {+0.0/75 41126 100000718} 65.Kb6 {+0.0/47 1212 3000198} Qb4+ {+0.0/71 36424 100000278} 66.Ka6 {+0.0/41 1121 3000315} Qxa4 {+0.0/65 31268 100000442} 67.Ka7 {+0.0/37 1236 3001407} Qb4 {+0.0/64 39779 100000701} 68.Qd1+ {+0.0/40 1244 3001149} Kf4 {+0.0/67 41906 100000578} 69.Qc1+ {+0.0/41 1422 3000566} Kf3 {+0.0/70 42463 100000506} 70.Qf1+ {+0.0/41 1249 3001061} Kg3 {+0.0/72 40221 100000341} 71.Qg1+ {+0.0/43 1303 3000409} Kf4 {+0.0/74 45474 100000087} 72.Qf1+ {+0.0/41 1368 3001621} Kg5 {+0.0/70 47409 100000660} 73.Qg2+ {+0.0/42 1363 3000634} Kf4 {+0.0/71 40987 100000284} 74.Qf2+ {+0.0/39 1503 3000251} Kg5 {+0.0/71 40356 100000198} 75.Qe3+ {+0.0/38 1307 3000370} Kg4 {+0.0/73 38380 100000073} 76.Qe2+ {+0.0/43 1697 3000922} Kg3 {+0.0/70 42836 100000607} 77.Qe3+ {+0.0/42 1495 3000167} Kg2 {+0.0/71 43323 100000710} 78.Qe2+ {+0.0/40 1684 3000952} Kg3 {+0.0/72 40702 100000520} 79.Qe3+ {+0.0/44 1423 3000038} Kg2 {+0.0/77 37784 100000731} 80.Qe2+ {+0.0/44 1372 3000750} Kg1 {+0.0/75 37424 100000026} 81.Qd1+ {+0.0/42 1323 3000971} Kf2 {+0.0/73 38756 100000687} 82.Qc2+ {+0.0/42 1307 3000808} Kf3 {+0.0/74 35392 100000610} 83.Qf5+ {+0.0/38 1604 3000546} Ke3 {+0.0/75 37465 100000209} 84.Qe5+ {+0.0/38 1342 3000555} Kf3 {+0.0/71 35412 100000652} 85.Qh5+ {+0.0/39 1420 3001019} Ke3 {+0.0/71 32506 100000975} 86.Qh3+ {+0.0/42 1375 3000349} Ke2 {+0.0/74 34591 100000695} 87.Qg2+ {+0.0/40 1484 3000503} Ke3 {+0.0/76 44573 100000837} 88.Qg1+ {+0.0/42 1436 3001004} Kd2 {+0.0/75 42131 100000667} 89.Qg2+ {+0.0/43 1741 3000159} Ke3 {+0.0/74 41333 100000471} 90.Qg1+ {+0.0/43 1487 3000368} Kd3 {+0.0/73 34721 100000214} 91.Qf1+ {+0.0/43 1430 3001075} Kc2 {+0.0/72 37445 100000288} 92.Qe2+ {+0.0/45 1696 3001735} Kc1 {+0.0/71 33750 100000001} 93.Qf1+ {+0.0/46 1609 3001588} Kd2 {+0.0/73 41082 100000949} 94.Qf2+ {+0.0/45 1615 3001155} Kd3 {+0.0/76 49775 100000401} 95.Qf3+ {+0.0/45 2706 3001130} Kc2 {+0.0/76 83648 100000471} 96.Qe2+ {+0.0/44 2685 3000366} Kb3 {+0.0/76 85516 100000354} 97.Qd1+ {+0.0/45 3131 3001365} Kc3 {+0.0/76 87768 100000318} 98.Qc1+ {+0.0/44 3368 3000417} Kb3 {+0.0/76 89269 100000652} 99.Qb1+ {+0.0/44 1852 3000240} Kc4 {+0.0/74 69864 100000787} 100.Qe4+ {+0.0/44 3051 3000032} Kb3 {+0.0/72 58452 100001176} 101.Qb1+ {+0.0/45 3172 3001394} Ka4 {+0.0/74 65666 100000562} 102.Qa1+ {+0.0/45 3088 3000369} Kb5 {+0.0/74 62366 100000047} 103.Qf1+ {+0.0/43 3471 3000965} Ka4 {+0.0/71 63375 100000961} 104.Qa1+ {+0.0/44 2857 3000989} Kb5 {+0.0/70 63831 100000404} 105.Qf1+ {+0.0/43 3155 3001249} Kc6 {+0.0/68 68133 100000420} 106.Qf3+ {+0.0/42 2789 3001048} Kc7 {+0.0/68 69413 100000471} 107.Qg3+ {+0.0/41 2819 3000493} Kc6 {+0.0/66 72238 100000173} 108.Qg2+ {+0.0/39 2794 3000800} Kc5 {+0.0/66 65115 100000354} 109.Qc2+ {+0.0/38 2884 3000823} Qc4 {+0.0/66 74726 100000336} 110.Qf5+ {+0.0/39 3270 3001013} Kb4 {+0.0/73 73278 100000182} 111.Qb1+ {+0.0/43 3060 3000058} Qb3 {+0.0/72 60768 100000054} 112.Qe4+ {+0.0/46 2403 3000326} Qc4 {+0.0/69 48577 100001351} 113.Qe1+ {+0.0/48 2815 3000216} Qc3 {+0.0/75 61462 100000022} 114.Qb1+ {+0.0/48 2775 3001095} Qb3 {+0.0/77 49439 100000181} 115.Qe1+ {+0.0/52 3227 3000862} Ka4 {+0.0/126 99249 100000079} 116.Qa1+ {+0.0/131 3631 3000535} Qa2 {+0.0/245 96 980} 1/2-1/2 [/pgn]
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Re: invitation to a new deterministic no opening tournament

Post by Uri Blass »

I added some engines.

Results so far:
standing

1)Stockfish15 10M 25.5
2)RubiChess contempt50 100M 25
3-4)stockfish16.1 30M 24.5
3-4)stockfish16.1 3M 24.5
5-6)stockfish16.1 1M 23.5
5-6)stockfish16.1 10M 23.5
7)Stockfish15 30M 22.5
8)Stockfish15 3M 21.5
9)Stockfish15 1M 21
10)stockfish16.1 300k 20
11)stockfish15 300k 18
12-13)stockfish15 100k 12.5
12-13)stockfish16.1 100k 12.5
14)berserk12 100k 10
15)stockfish16.1 30k 8.5
16)stockfish15 30k 6
17)stockfish16.1 10k 4.5
18)Stockfish15 10k 2.5

stockfish15 100M played 8 games against places 15-18 and got 2 out of 2 against 10k but only 1.5 out of 2 against 30k.

Interesting games
stockfish 100M failed to win against 30k
https://lichess.org/MkOxTlJe#188

Rubichess lost because of a bug by a stupid blunder.
It seems it had Nd5 in the hash for some reason when in the previous move it planned a different move based on the pv.
https://lichess.org/ayI4swFQ