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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by Houdini » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:46 pm

marijan wrote:Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!
Dear Marijan Stipancic jr,

The games you published above strongly suggest that you are using Houdini 2.0c with a pirate license, resulting in a 150 Elo weaker engine.

Please purchase a Houdini 2 license so that you can enjoy the full strength of the engine, and no longer have "Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!".

Cheers,
Robert

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by marijan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:09 pm

Houdini wrote:
marijan wrote:Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!
Dear Marijan Stipancic jr,

The games you published above strongly suggest that you are using Houdini 2.0c with a pirate license, resulting in a 150 Elo weaker engine.

Please purchase a Houdini 2 license so that you can enjoy the full strength of the engine, and no longer have "Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!".

Cheers,
Robert

Wrong, Mr. Houdart... Got my Houdini as gift... I will prove you... This is my long time control rating list... Houdini s are still at the top... That s why I m surprised....

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PS Houdini 2.0 doesn t run at my tests any more...
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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by Houdini » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:45 pm

marijan wrote:Wrong, Mr. Houdart... Got my Houdini as gift... I will prove you... This is my long time control rating list... Houdini s are still at the top... That s why I m surprised....
Regards...
Your Houdini 2.0c definitely behaves like a pirated version.

For example, take a look at the position from the game against Naum above, after white move 25.
[D] 3nk2r/r4pq1/bn2p3/p2pP1Np/PppP3P/4N1P1/1PP1B1K1/R2Q1R2 b k -

The correct Houdini 2.0c analysis is as follows, with scores around +1.65.

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 17/49	 0:07 	+1.69 	25...Rh6 26.c3 bxc3 27.bxc3 Qh8 28.Rb1 Rb7 29.Bf3 Ke7 30.Rb2 Kd7 31.Qc2 Nc8 32.Rxb7+ Bxb7 33.Bd1 Qe8 34.Qb2 Bc6 35.Qa3 (15.689.732) 2121
 18/49	 0:11 	+1.65 	25...Rh6 26.c3 bxc3 27.bxc3 Qh8 28.Rb1 Rb7 29.Bf3 Kd7 30.Rf2 Kc7 31.Be2 Kb8 32.Rb2 Ka7 33.Kg1 Qe8 34.Bxh5 Nxa4 35.Rxb7+ Bxb7 36.Nxf7 Nxc3 37.Nxh6 Nxd1 38.Bxe8 Nxe3 (23.897.542) 2139
 19/49	 0:18 	+1.65 	25...Rh6 26.c3 bxc3 27.bxc3 Qh8 28.Rb1 Rb7 29.Bf3 Kd7 30.Rf2 Kc7 31.Be2 Kb8 32.Rb2 Ka7 33.Kg1 Qe8 34.Bxh5 Nxa4 35.Rxb7+ Bxb7 36.Nxf7 Nxc3 37.Nxh6 Nxd1 38.Bxe8 Nxe3 (40.032.268) 2163
The pirated Houdini 2.0c analysis is as follows, with scores around +0.9.

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 17/54	 0:14 	+0.88 	25...Rh6 26.b3 Qh8 27.Rf2 Rd7 28.Kh2 Rc7 29.Bf1 Qg7 30.Qf3 Bb7 31.Be2 Nd7 32.bxc4 dxc4 33.Qf4 f6 34.exf6 Nxf6 35.Nxc4 Rxc4 36.Bxc4 Ng4+ 37.Kg1 Nxf2 38.Qxf2 (31.582.443) 2172
 18/54	 0:18 	+0.86 	25...Rh6 26.b3 Qh8 27.Rf2 Rd7 28.Kh2 Nc6 29.Rf4 Rc7 30.Qg1 Nd8 31.Raf1 Bc8 32.R1f2 Ba6 33.Qf1 Qg7 34.Qd1 Qh8 35.Bf1 Bc8 36.bxc4 dxc4 (39.319.437) 2184
 19/64	 0:59 	+0.94 	25...Rh6 26.b3 Qh8 27.Rf2 Rc7 28.Qd2 Rg6 29.Raf1 Qg7 30.Nd1 Qh6 31.Qe3 Qh8 32.Qf4 Rg7 33.Qe3 Rg6 34.Qf4 (130.524.180) 2182
Your game shows a score of +0.91 [Rh6 {-0.91/19 46}].
Don't you think there's something wrong?

If you really have a valid license, please send it to houdini@cruxis.be so that we can verify together what went wrong with the installation.

Robert

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by Carlos Ylich » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:59 pm

Hello Robert;
It seems that the stolen things you know well is not my little thief. :lol:

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by bob » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:22 pm

Houdini wrote:
marijan wrote:Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!
Dear Marijan Stipancic jr,

The games you published above strongly suggest that you are using Houdini 2.0c with a pirate license, resulting in a 150 Elo weaker engine.

Please purchase a Houdini 2 license so that you can enjoy the full strength of the engine, and no longer have "Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!".

Cheers,
Robert
I can't get my head around THAT concept. A pirated license for a program that is a copy of another program?

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by Carlos Ylich » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:28 pm

Thief stealing thief .... :lol:

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by marijan » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:16 pm

Mr. Houdart, my deepest apologies... You were right when you said that is something wrong.... Arena seems doesent worked properly... Had that problem few days ago... Now its ok... Downloaded new one....

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Houdini s games will be repeated....

I apologize....


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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:46 pm

bob wrote:
Houdini wrote:
marijan wrote:Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!
Dear Marijan Stipancic jr,

The games you published above strongly suggest that you are using Houdini 2.0c with a pirate license, resulting in a 150 Elo weaker engine.

Please purchase a Houdini 2 license so that you can enjoy the full strength of the engine, and no longer have "Unbelieveble result for Houdini!!!".

Cheers,
Robert
I can't get my head around THAT concept. A pirated license for a program that is a copy of another program?
:lol:
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by marijan » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:39 pm

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completely different story....

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[Event "4th Mini tournament 70min 1core"]
[Site "i3 370 M 2.4 GHz"]
[Date "2012.02.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Houdini20c"]
[Black "RobboLito010SMP"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "3099"]
[ECO "B23"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[Time "05"]
[Variation "Closed, Grand Prix, Schofman Variation"]
[WhiteElo "2900"]
[TimeControl "30/3000"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "66"]

1. Nc3 c5 2. e4 Nc6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Bc4 Bg7 5. d3 d6 6. a3 Rb8 7. Ba2 b5 8. h3
Nf6 9. Bg5 {+0.18/21 186} O-O {-0.07/22 120} 10. Qd2 {+0.21/22 253} e6
{-0.12/21 180} 11. Qf4 {+0.17/22 110} Bb7 {-0.13/21 280} 12. Qh4 {+0.21/21
97} Ba8 {-0.26/21 295} 13. O-O {+0.32/20 99} Re8 {-0.27/20 207} 14. Nh2
{+0.43/21 139} h5 {-0.33/19 93} 15. Ne2 {+0.46/22 190} b4 {-0.43/21 317}
16. Bb3 {+0.56/20 149} Na5 {-0.51/20 108} 17. axb4 {+0.94/21 626} Nxb3
{-0.85/20 291} 18. cxb3 {+1.14/17 53} e5 {-0.82/21 260} 19. f4 {+1.53/19
73} cxb4 {-1.03/20 115} 20. Rf2 {+1.68/20 82} Rb6 {-1.07/21 125} 21. Rxa7
{+1.80/21 261} Bb7 {-1.24/20 81} 22. f5 {+2.09/20 64} Rf8 {-1.49/20 133}
23. g4 {+2.90/20 108} d5 {-2.13/17 105} 24. gxh5 {+2.90/18 0} gxh5
{-2.37/18 77} 25. Rg2 {+3.07/17 0} dxe4 {-2.27/16 0} 26. d4 {+4.48/18 122}
exd4 {-2.44/17 58} 27. Rxb7 {+7.05/17 80} d3 {-2.65/18 19} 28. Rd7
{+6.92/16 0} Qxd7 {-2.65/17 0} 29. Bxf6 {+7.34/16 4} Qxf5 {-3.00/19 48} 30.
Rxg7+ {+7.25/15 0} Kh8 {-2.65/17 0} 31. Bd4 {+7.03/14 0} f6 {-6.21/19 318}
32. Ng3 {+6.42/13 0} Qd5 {-6.11/17 2} 33. Nxh5 {+6.38/12 0} Qxd4+ {-6.34/17
55 Black resigns} 1-0

[Event "4th Mini tournament 70min 1core"]
[Site "i3 370 M 2.4 GHz"]
[Date "2012.02.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Critter14"]
[Black "Houdini20c"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "2900"]
[ECO "B13"]
[Opening "Caro-Kann"]
[Time "07:33:44"]
[Variation "Exchange, 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 g6"]
[WhiteElo "3073"]
[TimeControl "30/3000:1200"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "292"]

1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. c3 Bg4 6. h3 Bh5 7. Bf4 a6 8.
Nbd2 e6 9. Qb3 {+0.15/22 243} Qd7 {-0.13/22 149} 10. Bd3 {+0.22/21 133}
Nge7 {-0.07/23 128} 11. O-O {+0.19/21 131} Bg6 {-0.04/23 153} 12. c4
{+0.25/21 129} Na5 {-0.16/23 811} 13. Qc3 {+0.08/23 180} Bxd3 {-0.12/22
122} 14. Ne5 {+0.08/22 128} Qd8 {-0.15/22 101} 15. Qxd3 {+0.23/22 200} f6
{-0.06/23 111} 16. Nef3 {+0.23/21 123} dxc4 {-0.03/23 125} 17. Qe2
{+0.19/22 123} Qd7 {-0.02/22 72} 18. Ne4 {+0.10/21 123} Nd5 {-0.03/22 73}
19. Bd2 {+0.13/21 123} Nc6 {-0.03/22 139} 20. Qxc4 {+0.08/20 123} Be7
{-0.02/23 90} 21. Rfe1 {+0.05/22 242} Rc8 {-0.02/22 107} 22. Rac1 {+0.05/21
115} O-O {+0.01/21 87} 23. Nc3 {0.00/20 115} Rfe8 {+0.01/22 126} 24. Nxd5
{0.00/21 97} exd5 {+0.02/20 0} 25. Qb3 {0.00/24 110} Kh8 {+0.01/22 99} 26.
a3 {0.00/22 110} Bd6 {+0.01/22 170} 27. Qd3 {0.00/22 110} Kg8 {+0.05/21 92}
28. Nh4 {0.00/22 110} Bb8 {+0.07/20 66} 29. Rcd1 {-0.05/21 110} Ba7
{+0.07/21 88} 30. Nf3 {-0.05/21 110} g6 {+0.08/21 80} 31. b4 {0.00/21 42}
Rxe1+ {+0.10/21 29} 32. Rxe1 {0.00/21 41} Ne7 {+0.11/21 49} 33. g4
{-0.08/20 39} g5 {+0.13/20 30} 34. Qe2 {-0.08/20 39} Ng6 {+0.22/20 46} 35.
Qe6+ {-0.21/20 76} Qxe6 {+0.22/19 1} 36. Rxe6 {-0.21/18 0} Kf7 {+0.27/23
40} 37. Rd6 {-0.36/21 28} Ke7 {+0.27/24 16} 38. Rxd5 {-0.36/20 0} Ke6
{+0.39/24 85} 39. Ra5 {-0.41/23 31} Bb6 {+0.39/22 0} 40. Rf5 {-0.50/23 157}
Ne7 {+0.36/20 15} 41. d5+ {-0.50/21 0} Nxd5 {+0.39/20 0} 42. Bxg5 {-0.62/22
64} fxg5 {+0.41/21 20} 43. Nxg5+ {-0.62/20 0} Kd6 {+0.40/20 0} 44. Nxh7
{-0.64/21 27} Bd8 {+0.52/20 15} 45. Ng5 {-0.64/20 21} Bxg5 {+0.44/20 18}
46. Rxg5 {-0.64/18 0} Rc3 {+0.43/21 20} 47. h4 {-0.64/20 22} Rxa3 {+0.36/20
16} 48. h5 {-0.54/20 21} Rh3 {+0.33/21 17} 49. Rg7 {-0.54/22 54} b5
{+0.48/20 21} 50. f3 {-0.70/21 39} Rxf3 {+0.53/20 11} 51. h6 {-0.80/22 30}
Rh3 {+0.59/22 12} 52. Rg6+ {-0.83/22 36} Ke5 {+0.60/22 11} 53. Rxa6
{-0.83/19 0} Kf4 {+0.60/22 13} 54. g5 {-0.83/21 15} Rg3+ {+0.60/22 12} 55.
Kf2 {-0.84/22 14} Rxg5 {+0.60/21 10} 56. h7 {-0.84/22 14} Rh5 {+0.60/19 0}
57. Ra7 {-0.84/21 0} Rh2+ {+0.66/23 12} 58. Kg1 {-0.83/24 13} Rh6 {+0.61/24
11} 59. Rf7+ {-0.83/23 13} Kg3 {+0.61/25 11} 60. Rb7 {-0.83/21 12} Nc3
{+0.61/25 9} 61. Rf7 {-0.83/22 12} Ne4 {+0.61/24 10} 62. Rg7+ {-0.83/24 9}
Kf4 {+0.61/26 15} 63. Rb7 {-0.83/25 11} Nd6 {+0.61/24 14} 64. Rg7 {-0.83/25
10} Kf5 {+0.61/25 9} 65. Kg2 {-0.83/25 10} Kf6 {+0.61/26 10} 66. Rd7
{-0.83/26 10} Ke6 {+0.61/25 8} 67. Rc7 {-0.83/24 9} Rh5 {+0.61/25 14} 68.
Kf3 {-0.83/23 8} Rh4 {+0.52/24 36} 69. Kg3 {-0.83/24 9} Nf5+ {+0.52/24 9}
70. Kg2 {-0.83/24 8} Kf6 {+0.52/22 9} 71. Rb7 {-0.83/25 8} Nd6 {+0.52/25
18} 72. Rd7 {-0.83/25 7} Ke6 {+0.52/25 11} 73. Rc7 {-0.80/21 7} Kf5
{+0.52/24 7} 74. Kf3 {-0.70/22 7} Rh6 {+0.52/25 8} 75. Rd7 {-0.62/23 7} Ke6
{+0.36/25 75} 76. Rc7 {-0.62/22 7} Rh5 {+0.28/21 12} 77. Kg4 {-0.51/21 6}
Rh1 {+0.27/21 6} 78. Kg5 {-0.51/20 6} Nf7+ {+0.26/20 10} 79. Kg6 {-0.44/18
6} Rg1+ {+0.27/21 10} 80. Kh5 {-0.44/17 0} Ne5 {+0.27/21 9} 81. Rc5
{-0.43/18 6} Rh1+ {+0.26/20 20} 82. Kg5 {-0.43/16 0} Rxh7 {+0.26/16 4} 83.
Rxb5 {-0.43/17 5} Rh8 {+0.27/17 4} 84. Rb6+ {-0.43/18 5} Kd5 {+0.27/19 7}
85. b5 {-0.43/17 5} Nf7+ {+0.27/19 4} 86. Kg4 {-0.43/19 5} Nd6 {+0.27/20 8}
87. Kf3 {-0.43/18 5} Rd8 {+0.28/19 4} 88. Kf4 {-0.43/18 4} Rf8+ {+0.27/19
4} 89. Kg4 {-0.43/19 4} Ke5 {+0.27/19 4} 90. Kg3 {-0.43/18 4} Ne4+
{+0.27/18 5} 91. Kg4 {-0.43/18 4} Nf6+ {+0.28/18 3} 92. Kg3 {-0.43/19 4}
Nd5 {+0.28/19 3} 93. Rb7 {-0.43/19 4} Ke4 {+0.28/19 3} 94. Ra7 {-0.43/18 3}
Rb8 {+0.28/19 4} 95. Ra4+ {-0.43/18 3} Kd3 {+0.28/20 9} 96. b6 {-0.43/15 3}
Rxb6 {+0.28/20 5} 97. Kg4 {-0.43/16 3} Rb5 {+0.28/19 3} 98. Kg3 {-0.44/18
3} Ke3 {+0.30/21 4} 99. Ra1 {-0.44/18 2} Ke4 {+0.30/19 3} 100. Ra8
{-0.44/18 3} Nf6 {+0.30/20 4} 101. Ra4+ {-0.48/18 4} Kf5 {+0.31/20 4} 102.
Rf4+ {-0.48/18 3} Kg5 {+0.31/20 3} 103. Ra4 {-0.48/19 2} Rb3+ {+0.33/21 3}
104. Kf2 {-0.48/20 2} Kf5 {+0.33/21 3} 105. Ke2 {-0.49/19 4} Ne4 {+0.33/20
3} 106. Ra5+ {-0.49/18 2} Kf4 {+0.33/19 3} 107. Ra7 {-0.49/17 2} Re3+
{+0.33/17 4} 108. Kd1 {-0.49/18 2} Rd3+ {+0.33/18 2} 109. Kc2 {-0.49/18 1}
Rc3+ {+0.33/20 6} 110. Kb2 {-0.49/18 2} Rc8 {+0.33/20 4} 111. Ra1 {-0.49/15
2} Ke5 {+0.33/18 4} 112. Kb3 {-0.51/16 2} Nd2+ {+0.33/18 2} 113. Kb4
{-0.49/16 2} Kd4 {+0.33/18 2} 114. Kb5 {-0.50/17 1} Kd5 {+0.33/18 2} 115.
Kb4 {-0.50/17 1} Nb1 {+0.33/18 2} 116. Kb3 {-0.50/19 1} Nc3 {+0.35/16 0}
117. Rh1 {-0.50/19 1} Kd4 {+0.35/21 2} 118. Rh7 {-0.50/19 1} Ra8 {+0.35/21
3} 119. Rh1 {-0.51/20 1} Rb8+ {+0.35/21 10} 120. Kc2 {-0.51/19 1} Rc8
{+0.35/23 5} 121. Kb3 {-0.50/19 1} Rd8 {+0.34/22 3} 122. Rf1 {-0.50/17 1}
Rb8+ {+0.35/20 2} 123. Kc2 {-0.50/16 1} Rc8 {+0.34/18 2} 124. Kb3 {-0.50/17
1} Rg8 {+0.33/18 2} 125. Rh1 {-0.50/17 1} Nd5 {+0.29/18 8} 126. Rh4+
{-0.45/15 1} Kc5 {+0.29/19 3} 127. Kc2 {-0.46/15 1} Rg3 {+0.28/17 2} 128.
Rh5 {-0.43/16 1} Rf3 {+0.28/18 2} 129. Kd2 {-0.43/16 1} Kd4 {+0.28/17 1}
130. Rh4+ {-0.43/17 1} Ke5 {+0.28/18 4} 131. Rh5+ {-0.43/15 0} Ke4
{+0.27/18 4} 132. Kc2 {-0.43/15 1} Kd4 {+0.28/16 2} 133. Rh4+ {-0.43/14 0}
Nf4 {+0.27/16 1} 134. Rg4 {-0.43/16 1} Ke5 {+0.27/16 1} 135. Rg5+ {-0.42/14
0} Ke4 {+0.27/16 1} 136. Rg8 {-0.41/15 0} Nd5 {+0.27/16 1} 137. Ra8
{-0.41/14 0} Kd4 {+0.26/15 1} 138. Kb2 {-0.41/14 0} Rh3 {+0.26/15 2} 139.
Ra4+ {-0.37/13 0} Ke5 {+0.02/15 8} 140. Rg4 {-0.37/13 0} Nf6 {+0.02/14 5}
141. Rg5+ {0.00/12 0} Kd4 {-0.01/14 1} 142. Ra5 {0.00/19 0} Ne4 {-0.01/17
1} 143. Ra4+ {0.00/24 0} Kd5 {-0.01/22 1} 144. Ra5+ {0.00/28 0} Nc5
{-0.01/24 1} 145. Ra3 {0.00/29 0} Rb3+ {0.00/27 1} 146. Rxb3 {0.00/37 0}
Nxb3 {0.00/35 1 Insufficient material} 1/2-1/2

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Re: 4th Mini tour 70min 1core started...

Post by rvida » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:43 pm

marijan wrote:Mr. Houdart, my deepest apologies... You were right when you said that is something wrong.... Arena seems doesent worked properly... Had that problem few days ago... Now its ok... Downloaded new one....
Blaming Arena??? Nonsense... It has nothing to do with the GUI. Most probalby you have a pirated version with an improper crack. If I were you, I would hide in the woods instead of publishing on fora.

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