Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
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Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Not a great game, played at 5/0.
Yes missed best move order but I am only human and didn't play some positional moves like a4 earlier on but I thought it fun, my opponent didn't.
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Be7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Be3 a6 7. Bd3 b5 8.
Qe2 Nb6 9. b3 Bd7 10. OO OO 11. Nd2 f6 12. f4 f5 13. Nf3 h6 14. Kh1 g5
15. fxg5 hxg5 16. Nxg5 Bxg5 17. Qh5 Bxe3 18. Qg6+ Kh8 19. Rf3 Bg5 20. Rh3+ Bh4 21. Qh5+ Kg7 22. Rxh4 Rh8 23. Rg4+ Kf8 24. Qxh8+ Ke7 25. Rg7# 10
[d]rn1q1rk1/2pbb3/pn2p3/1p1pPpp1/3P4/1PNBBN2/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 16
So, 16. a4 or my move, Nxg5!?
Cute finish.
[d]rn1q3r/2pb2k1/pn2p3/1p1pPp1Q/3P3R/1PNB4/P1P3PP/R6K w   1 23
Too bad I don't slap computers around like this anymore!
If my opponent sees this game my apologies....you don't give me these opportunities often as you play like a GM when on your game.
Yes missed best move order but I am only human and didn't play some positional moves like a4 earlier on but I thought it fun, my opponent didn't.
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Be7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. e5 Nfd7 6. Be3 a6 7. Bd3 b5 8.
Qe2 Nb6 9. b3 Bd7 10. OO OO 11. Nd2 f6 12. f4 f5 13. Nf3 h6 14. Kh1 g5
15. fxg5 hxg5 16. Nxg5 Bxg5 17. Qh5 Bxe3 18. Qg6+ Kh8 19. Rf3 Bg5 20. Rh3+ Bh4 21. Qh5+ Kg7 22. Rxh4 Rh8 23. Rg4+ Kf8 24. Qxh8+ Ke7 25. Rg7# 10
[d]rn1q1rk1/2pbb3/pn2p3/1p1pPpp1/3P4/1PNBBN2/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 16
So, 16. a4 or my move, Nxg5!?
Cute finish.
[d]rn1q3r/2pb2k1/pn2p3/1p1pPp1Q/3P3R/1PNB4/P1P3PP/R6K w   1 23
Too bad I don't slap computers around like this anymore!
If my opponent sees this game my apologies....you don't give me these opportunities often as you play like a GM when on your game.
Terry McCracken
Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
No, it is a great game! 16.Nxg5 is a good practical attempt to win a blitz game. I especially like 23.Rg4+!! which requires to see that 23...fxg4 loses.Terry McCracken wrote:Not a great game, played at 5/0.
[D]rn1q3r/2pb2k1/pn2p3/1p1pPp1Q/3P3R/1PNB4/P1P3PP/R6K w   0 23
(easy for engines)
Black's chance to draw was 19...Qh4!
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Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Thanks!Mike S. wrote:No, it is a great game! 16.Nxg5 is a good practical attempt to win a blitz game. I especially like 23.Rg4+!! which requires to see that 23...fxg4 loses.Terry McCracken wrote:Not a great game, played at 5/0.
[D]rn1q3r/2pb2k1/pn2p3/1p1pPp1Q/3P3R/1PNB4/P1P3PP/R6K w   0 23
(easy for engines)
Black's chance to draw was 19...Qh4!
Actually, according to Houdini 1.5 in Arena 3.0 running on a Sandy Bridge i7 four cores @3.5 Ghz 16GB RAM gives this analysis.
[d] rn1q1rk1/2pbb3/pn2p3/1p1pPpp1/3P4/1PNBBN2/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 16
Houdini_15a_x64:
4/14 00:00 1,479 0 +0.89 a2a4 b5b4 Nc3a2 Nb8c6 Bd3xa6
5/16 00:00 3,183 0 +0.61 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 Be7b4 Nc3a2
6/22 00:00 7,565 0 +0.54 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 b5b4 Nc3a2 Nb8c6 Bd3xa6
7/22 00:00 12,401 0 +0.53 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 b5b4 Nc3a2 Nb8c6 Bd3xa6 Be7g5
8/22 00:00 16,389 512,000 +0.53 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 b5b4 Nc3a2 Nb8c6 Bd3xa6 Be7g5
9/22 00:00 34,764 146,000 +0.59 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 b5b4 Nc3a2 Nb8c6 Bd3xa6 Bd7c8 Ba6b5
10/22 00:00 65,787 264,000 +0.52 a2a4 g5g4
10/22+ 00:00 142,163 534,000 +0.66 a2a4
10/27 00:00 173,518 628,000 +0.51 a2a4 g5g4 Nf3d2 b5xa4 Be3h6 Nb8c6 Bh6xf8 Qd8xf8 Nc3xa4 Nc6xd4 Qe2e3 Nb6xa4 Qe3xd4 Be7c5
11/27+ 00:00 284,806 952,000 +0.57 a2a4
11/27 00:00 334,520 1,082,000 +0.63 a2a4 g5g4 a4xb5 a6xb5 Ra1xa8 Nb6xa8 Nf3d2 b5b4 Nc3b5 Na8b6 Kh1g1 Nb8c6 Rf1a1 Be7g5
12/27 00:00 587,290 1,668,000 +0.56 a2a4 g5g4
12/27 00:00 834,180 2,138,000 +0.48 a2a4 b5xa4 b3xa4 a6a5 Nf3d2 Nb8c6 Qe2h5 Rf8f7 Nd2f3 Rf7h7 Qh5g6+ Rh7g7 Qg6h6 Ra8b8 Nc3b5
13/31+ 00:00 1,320,027 2,761,000 +0.54 a2a4
13/31 00:00 1,429,950 2,882,000 +0.51 a2a4 b5xa4 b3xa4 a6a5 Nc3b5 Nb8c6 c2c3 g5g4 Nf3d2 Ra8b8 Nd2b3 Bd7e8 Rf1b1 Be8f7 Ra1a2
14/31 00:00 2,156,409 3,661,000 +0.51 a2a4 b5xa4 b3xa4 a6a5 Nc3b5 Nb8c6 c2c3 g5g4 Nf3d2 Ra8b8 Nd2b3 Bd7e8 Rf1b1 Be8f7 Ra1a2
15/33 00:00 4,007,675 4,917,000 +0.54 a2a4 b5b4 Nc3d1 a6a5 h2h3 Nb8c6 Be3c1 Bd7e8 Nd1e3 Be8f7 Bc1b2 Qd8d7 Ra1d1 Ra8b8 Kh1g1
16/33 00:01 6,453,862 5,867,000 +0.53 a2a4 b5b4 Nc3d1 a6a5 h2h3 Nb8c6 Nd1f2 Qd8e8 Ra1d1 Qe8f7 Kh1g1 Ra8d8
17/40 00:01 14,249,602 7,204,000 +0.54 a2a4 b5b4 Nc3d1 a6a5 h2h3 Nb8c6 Nd1f2 Qd8e8 Kh1g1 Qe8f7 Ra1d1 Qf7h7 Be3c1 Ra8d8 Nf2g4 Qh7g7 Ng4e3
18/48 00:04 39,352,220 8,687,000 +0.47 a2a4 b5b4
18/48 00:09 93,521,190 9,403,000 +0.52 a2a4 b5xa4 b3xa4 a6a5 Nc3b5 Nb8c6 c2c3 g5g4 Nf3d2 Ra8b8 Bd3c2 Rf8f7 Ra1b1 Rf7h7 Kh1g1 Bd7e8 Be3f4 Be8f7 Qe2e3 Qd8d7
19/48 00:12 115,804,251 9,464,000 +0.52 a2a4 b5xa4 b3xa4 a6a5 Nc3b5 Nb8c6 c2c3 g5g4 Nf3d2 Ra8b8 Bd3c2 Rf8f7 Ra1b1 Rf7h7 Kh1g1 Bd7e8 Be3f4 Be8f7 Qe2e3 Qd8d7
20/48 00:20 202,021,288 9,865,000 +0.45 a2a4 b5xa4
20/48+ 00:42 421,079,321 9,996,000 +0.59 Qe2d2
20/56 00:46 469,361,940 9,991,000 +0.65 Qe2d2 g5g4 Nf3g5 Nb8c6 Nc3e2 Qd8e8 h2h4 Qe8h5 g2g3 Qh5h6 Kh1g1 Nc6b4 Ne2f4 Nb4c6 Ra1d1 Ra8c8 a2a4 b5xa4 Bd3xa6 Rc8e8 Nf4d3 a4xb3 c2xb3 Re8a8
21/56 00:53 540,830,161 10,020,000 +0.65 Qe2d2 g5g4 Nf3g5 Nb8c6 Nc3e2 Nc6b4 h2h4 Nb4xd3 c2xd3 a6a5 Kh1g1 Be7b4 Qd2c2 Bb4e7 Ne2f4 Be7xg5 h4xg5 Qd8xg5 Qc2xc7 Qg5d8 Qc7d6 Nb6c8 Qd6c5 Nc8e7 Ra1c1 Ra8c8 Qc5d6
22/56 01:11 730,240,813 10,205,000 +0.65 Qe2d2 g5g4 Nf3g5 Nb8c6 Nc3e2 Nc6b4 h2h4 a6a5 Kh1g1 Nb4xd3 c2xd3 Be7b4 Qd2c2 Bb4e7 Ne2f4 Be7xg5 h4xg5 Qd8xg5 Qc2xc7 Qg5d8 Qc7d6 Nb6c8 Qd6c5 Nc8e7 Ra1c1 Ra8c8 Qc5d6 Rc8xc1 Rf1xc1 Ne7c8 Nf4xe6 Nc8xd6 Ne6xd8 Rf8xd8 e5xd6
23/70+ 01:55 1,214,476,803 10,490,000 +0.75 Qe2d2
23/70 02:01 1,275,072,528 10,503,000 +0.71 Qe2d2 g5g4 Nf3g5 Nb8c6 Nc3e2 Nc6b4 h2h4 a6a5 Kh1g1 Nb4xd3 c2xd3 a5a4 b3b4 Qd8e8 Ra1c1 Be7d8 Ne2f4 a4a3 Qd2c3 Ra8a7 Be3f2 Ra7a8 Qc3b3 Ra8a7 Rf1e1 Bd8xg5 h4xg5
24/71 03:42 2,401,431,675 10,802,000 +0.76 Qe2d2 g5g4 Nf3g5 Nb8c6 Nc3e2 Nc6b4 h2h4 a6a5 Kh1g1 Nb4xd3 c2xd3 Qd8e8 Ne2f4 Be7d8 a2a3 a5a4 b3b4 Kg8g7 Qd2c2 Rf8h8 Be3f2 Kg7g8
25/71 05:39 3,728,773,457 10,990,000 +0.67 Qe2d2 g5g4
25/80+ 11:02 7,477,068,664 11,294,000 +0.86 Nf3xg5
25/80+ 15:41 10,621,544,648 11,281,000 +1.47 Nf3xg5
25/96 20:10 13,673,399,299 11,298,000 +1.86 Nf3xg5 Be7xg5 Rf1f3 Bg5h4 Ra1f1 Nb8c6 Rf3h3 Rf8f7 Be3h6 Rf7h7 Qe2h5 Qd8e7 Nc3e2 Kg8h8 Qh5xh4 Qe7xh4 Rh3xh4 Nb6c8 Rf1f4 Nc8e7 Bh6g5 Ne7g6 Bg5f6+ Kh8g8 Rh4xh7 Kg8xh7 Rf4f3 Kh7g8 Rf3h3 Bd7e8 c2c3 Nc6b8 Kh1g1 Nb8d7 Bf6g5 Be8f7
26/96+ 27:15 18,539,965,387 11,337,000 +1.99 Nf3xg5
26/96+ 34:53 23,761,989,336 11,352,000 +2.23 Nf3xg5
It had to search quite deep to see that 16. Nxg5!! is a forced win!
Definitely not easy for computers, I'm surprised!
A Blitz game and I pull off a bit of a brilliancy! This Old Lion feels very content after this meal! I think after my
16. Nxg5!! It's over for Black.
My move 23. Rg4+!! raises the beauty of the game even though it was easy.
Maybe others could test the top engines on fast hardware and give their results?
Sorry for tooting my own horn Regards,
Terry McCracken
Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Nice game, Terry, and you have the right to blown your horn. We are severely defeated so many times by machines that any victory must be tasted to the full.
hugs
Fern
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Fern

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Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Ha! Thanks, Fern.fern wrote:Nice game, Terry, and you have the right to blown your horn. We are severely defeated so many times by machines that any victory must be tasted to the full.
hugs
Fern
Actually, I wanted people to test this position and see how hard 16. Nxg5 actually is for modern hardware and engines. Houdini took over 10 minutes to find the move!
Start You Engines, Please
[d]rn1q1rk1/2pbb3/pn2p3/1p1pPpp1/3P4/1PNBBN2/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 16
Best Move, Nxg5
Terry McCracken
Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
It is hard even for humans, though a deeper view see that after the exchanges all is clear for massive attack. I did not analyze that far, but I see that after black queen takes in g5, the white rook goes I suppose. to a position in f column to threat everything from g3 ...after that, the fog of war but with many chances.
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Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
You sack the Night but you don't follow up taking the Bishop. Best would be 17. Rf3! I played 17. Qh5?! which spoiled my combination but still gave winning chances.fern wrote:It is hard even for humans, though a deeper view see that after the exchanges all is clear for massive attack. I did not analyze that far, but I see that after black queen takes in g5, the white rook goes I suppose. to a position in f column to threat everything from g3 ...after that, the fog of war but with many chances.
fern
I think I need to make a new thread to get the members to test the position on move 16.
Terry McCracken
Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Maybe is better to continue the exchanges in order to let the black queen compromised in a dangerous column.
Dunno.
Is what I would do after my half a minute analysis. I tend to play too fast and somewhat shallow for the same reason.
Dunno.
Is what I would do after my half a minute analysis. I tend to play too fast and somewhat shallow for the same reason.
Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
I guess this was a kind of psychological problem, because with two extra pieces in a blitz game, Black certainly wanted to win and most probably did not consider to return material.Mike S. wrote:Black's chance to draw was 19...Qh4!
[D]rn1q1r1k/2pb4/pn2p1Q1/1p1pPp2/3P4/1PNBbR2/P1P3PP/R6K b   0 19
Analysis by Houdini 1.5a w322def (at depth 22):
1. = (0.00): 19...Qh4 20.Rh3 Qxh3 21.gxh3 Nc6 22.Rg1 Bxg1 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Qg6+ Kh8 25.Qh6+
2. + (22.21): 19...Bf2 20.Rh3+ Qh4 21.Rxh4+ Bxh4 22.Rf1 Be8 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Rf4 Bh5 25.Qxh5 Rf7 26.Rxh4 Kf8 27.Qg5 Ke8 28.Rh8+ Kd7 29.Qg8 Rf8 30.Qxf8 Kc6 31.Qf7 Kb7 32.Qxe6 Nc6 33.Rxa8 Nxa8 34.Nxd5 Nd8 35.Qxf5 Nc6 36.Qf2 Nd8 37.h4 c6 38.Nf6 Nc7 39.h5 Nf7 40.Ne4 Nh6 41.Nd6+ Kb6 42.d5+ c5
3. + (#11): 19...Bg5 20.Rh3+ Bh4 21.g3 Rf7 22.Qxf7 Nc6 23.Rxh4+ Qxh4 24.gxh4 Nxe5 25.dxe5 Rg8 26.Qh5+ Kg7 27.Rg1+ Kf8 28.Qh6+ Rg7 29.Rxg7 Ke8 30.Qh8#
Houdini does not disagree with 17.Qh5:
[D]rn1q1rk1/2pb4/pn2p3/1p1pPpb1/3P4/1PNBB3/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 17
Analysis by Houdini 1.5a w322def:
1. = (0.00): 17.Qh5 Bxe3 18.Qg6+ Kh8 19.Rf3 Qh4 20.Rh3 Qxh3 21.gxh3 Nc6 22.Rg1 Bxg1 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Qg6+ Kh8 25.Qh6+
2. = (0.00): 17.Rf3 Bh4 18.Rh3 Kg7 19.g3 Bg5 20.Rh7+ Kxh7 21.Qh5+ Kg7 22.Bxg5 Qe8 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Bf6 Rxf6 25.exf6 Qf8 26.Qg6+ Kh8 27.Re1 Nc6 28.Qh5+ Kg8 29.Nxd5 exd5 30.Qg6+ Kh8 31.Qh5+ Kg8 32.Qg6+
3. /+ (0.98): 17.Bxg5 Qxg5 18.Rf3 Kf7 19.Rg3 Qh4 20.Rh3 Qg4 21.Qxg4 fxg4 22.Rf1+ Kg8 23.Rxf8+ Kxf8 24.Rh8+ Ke7 25.Rh7+ Ke8 26.Rg7 Nc6 27.Rxg4 Nb4 28.Bg6+ Ke7 29.Rh4 Rf8 30.Rh7+ Kd8
Regards, Mike

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Re: Once in Awhile the Old Lion Wakes Up!
Trust me...17. Qh5 is a mistake, Rf3!! and it's Curtains!Mike S. wrote:I guess this was a kind of psychological problem, because with two extra pieces in a blitz game, Black certainly wanted to win and most probably did not consider to return material.Mike S. wrote:Black's chance to draw was 19...Qh4!
[D]rn1q1r1k/2pb4/pn2p1Q1/1p1pPp2/3P4/1PNBbR2/P1P3PP/R6K b   0 19
Analysis by Houdini 1.5a w322def (at depth 22):
1. = (0.00): 19...Qh4 20.Rh3 Qxh3 21.gxh3 Nc6 22.Rg1 Bxg1 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Qg6+ Kh8 25.Qh6+
2. + (22.21): 19...Bf2 20.Rh3+ Qh4 21.Rxh4+ Bxh4 22.Rf1 Be8 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Rf4 Bh5 25.Qxh5 Rf7 26.Rxh4 Kf8 27.Qg5 Ke8 28.Rh8+ Kd7 29.Qg8 Rf8 30.Qxf8 Kc6 31.Qf7 Kb7 32.Qxe6 Nc6 33.Rxa8 Nxa8 34.Nxd5 Nd8 35.Qxf5 Nc6 36.Qf2 Nd8 37.h4 c6 38.Nf6 Nc7 39.h5 Nf7 40.Ne4 Nh6 41.Nd6+ Kb6 42.d5+ c5
3. + (#11): 19...Bg5 20.Rh3+ Bh4 21.g3 Rf7 22.Qxf7 Nc6 23.Rxh4+ Qxh4 24.gxh4 Nxe5 25.dxe5 Rg8 26.Qh5+ Kg7 27.Rg1+ Kf8 28.Qh6+ Rg7 29.Rxg7 Ke8 30.Qh8#
Houdini does not disagree with 17.Qh5:
[D]rn1q1rk1/2pb4/pn2p3/1p1pPpb1/3P4/1PNBB3/P1P1Q1PP/R4R1K w   0 17
Analysis by Houdini 1.5a w322def:
1. = (0.00): 17.Qh5 Bxe3 18.Qg6+ Kh8 19.Rf3 Qh4 20.Rh3 Qxh3 21.gxh3 Nc6 22.Rg1 Bxg1 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Qg6+ Kh8 25.Qh6+
2. = (0.00): 17.Rf3 Bh4 18.Rh3 Kg7 19.g3 Bg5 20.Rh7+ Kxh7 21.Qh5+ Kg7 22.Bxg5 Qe8 23.Qh6+ Kg8 24.Bf6 Rxf6 25.exf6 Qf8 26.Qg6+ Kh8 27.Re1 Nc6 28.Qh5+ Kg8 29.Nxd5 exd5 30.Qg6+ Kh8 31.Qh5+ Kg8 32.Qg6+
3. /+ (0.98): 17.Bxg5 Qxg5 18.Rf3 Kf7 19.Rg3 Qh4 20.Rh3 Qg4 21.Qxg4 fxg4 22.Rf1+ Kg8 23.Rxf8+ Kxf8 24.Rh8+ Ke7 25.Rh7+ Ke8 26.Rg7 Nc6 27.Rxg4 Nb4 28.Bg6+ Ke7 29.Rh4 Rf8 30.Rh7+ Kd8
Terry McCracken