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When did chess engines running on common home pc hardware be

Post by Isaac » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:08 pm

When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Rodolfo Leoni » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:39 pm

Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
My opinion: if I think at Carlsen, it happened few years ago. It could be 2010-2012. But who knows?

Engines can't still beat Lyudmil Tsvetkov, anyway. And I think they'll never. Too strong a player...
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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Milos » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:50 pm

Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
Rybka 3 was already too strong, so it was in 2006-2007.

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Rodolfo Leoni » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:58 pm

Milos wrote:
Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
Rybka 3 was already too strong, so it was in 2006-2007.
I remember Rybka 3 didn't exist, yet. I could be wrong, anyway.
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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Werewolf » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:10 pm

Milos wrote:
Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
Rybka 3 was already too strong, so it was in 2006-2007.
Yes.

In 2005 Hydra (pretty much) showed the world a supercomputer can beat any human.

In 2006 Deep Fritz (pretty much) showed the world a decent workstation can beat any human.

In 2007 Rybka on normal hardware could beat any human.

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Vinvin » Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:58 pm

Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
This 2 tournaments show when micro-computer catched top humans (you can remove results from hydra) : https://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com ... ampionship

See the history of human-computers matches here : https://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Tournaments

Surprisingly, all along this CC history, the micro reached the level of supercomputers about 10 years later.

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Eelco de Groot » Sat Jul 15, 2017 11:45 pm

For me I'd probably pick an earlier date, because in 2001 already Chess Tiger achieved a Sofia Polgar like TPR of 2788, against several human grandmasters, scoring 9½ out of 11 games and 2 GM norms. Well maybe there was some Polgar effect here; GMs not used to playing their best against pretty girl, here it was maybe the case that the GMs were not used to playing a machine. But I think that was a breakthrough, Chess Tiger could probably have won just about any tournament from that point, because it was tactically very strong for its time and humans just make some inevitable tactical mistakes, especially in a longer tournament. See the results of Chess Tiger and Rebel at the time on Ed's pages http://www.rebel.nl/resu.htm

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Leo » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:02 am

Atari chess. 1980.
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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by MikeGL » Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:36 am

Isaac wrote:When did chess engines running on a common home pc hardware became stronger than the strongest human?
Was it around 2006?
By common home pc hardware I mean the kind of hardware people would buy (like Intel core 2 duo E6300 back in 2006). I am excluding server machines.

I am interested in which hardware, which human and which chess engine you consider in your reply.

Thank you!
Even Fritz 2 running on Pentium I was able to dominate an open tourn with
GM's in a blitz time control. I think your question should be specific on
time controls. Because at Blitz, home PC have dominated humans
earlier than 1995. Kasparov beaten by Fritz 2 in blitz also.

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Re: When did chess engines running on common home pc hardwar

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:01 am

20-30 years more until top engines catch up with best humans in terms of strength, and some 50-100 years until they catch in terms of knowledge.

so, a lot still to go.

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