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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Dann Corbit » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:53 am

Adam Hair wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote:
shrapnel wrote:Looks like Houdini is good only at these TCs. Rapid and Blitz, its Time Management is HORRIFIC, no matter what value I feed in for Overhead.
If you like to analyze chess positions, and you give more than a few seconds of time, then Houdini is a must have.

For tactical positions, it simply is the best.

There are some experiments in the Rybka forum showing Houdini's prowess.

I only wish there were a Linux version.
I have not tried Houdini 6, but Houdini 5 works well for me in Ubuntu (Mint) via Wine.
My Linux machines are all NUMA at home. I read that there were problems configuring Houdini for NUMA on Linux.

Besides, I want no taste of Windows on my Linux systems. It's time for me to make a clean break. All my new systems will be some form of Linux (Last one was Ubuntu, the one I just bought will be Centos).

I have thought about Mint. I might try some others.
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Leo » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:11 am

Stockfish is drawing the weaker engines to much. It looks like there will be a new TCEC Champion this year.
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by styx » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:52 am

That's quite possibly true. I doubt that Stockfish will get the needed full points in the last 4 matches.

But its performance was far from disappointing in my opinion. Let's see if it stays undefeated.

And although I like SF the most, a Komodo - Houdini Superfinal will be interesting nevertheless.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by shrapnel » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:04 pm

Perhaps you play even faster than 40 moves in 4 minutes? Or it could also be a configuration issue
No Configuration issues.
Yes, much faster, 4'+2" or 12'+1" Matches, that is, Blitz or Rapid.
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:00 pm

I watched stockfish 8 vs stockfish 8 on my S7 edge handphone very often and noticed that Stockfish drew a lot of games with threefold repetition. May be a little bit randomness ( let say within 0.05 evaluation) might help to improve stockfish.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:22 pm

Leo wrote:Stockfish is drawing the weaker engines to much. It looks like there will be a new TCEC Champion this year.
Indeed - SF missed out this time.
Komodo v Houdini in the SuperFinal.
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by MikeB » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:37 pm

Graham Banks wrote:
Leo wrote:Stockfish is drawing the weaker engines to much. It looks like there will be a new TCEC Champion this year.
Indeed - SF missed out this time.
Komodo v Houdini in the SuperFinal.
Yes indeed.

Code: Select all

Mac-Pro:cluster.mfb michaelbyrne$ bay
version 0058, Copyright (C) 1997-2016 Remi Coulom and updated by Michael Byrne.
compiled Jul 24 2016 00:03:35.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License.
See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details.

ResultSet>rp /Users/michaelbyrne/Downloads/dl.php.pgn 
109 game(s) loaded
ResultSet>elo
ResultSet-EloRating>mm 0 1
Iteration 100: 0.0130678 
Iteration 200: 0.000372643 
Iteration 300: 1.0666e-05 
00:00:00,00
ResultSet-EloRating>confidence 0.95
0.95
ResultSet-EloRating>r
Rank Name              Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 Komodo 1959.00     3158   0.0   30   30    28   18.5  66.1   11    2   15  39.3  53.6  3092 
   2 Houdini 6.02       3157   0.4   30   30    28   18.5  66.1   10    1   17  35.7  60.7  3092 
   3 Stockfish 051117   3145  11.7   31   31    27   17.0  63.0    7    0   20  25.9  74.1  3093 
   4 Fire 6.2           3120  25.6   33   33    27   15.0  55.6    6    3   18  22.2  66.7  3095 
   5 Chiron 251017      3061  58.5   32   32    27   10.5  38.9    0    6   21   0.0  77.8  3107 
   6 Ginkgo 2.01        3061   0.5   32   32    27   10.5  38.9    1    7   19   3.7  70.4  3107 
   7 Andscacs 0.921     3049  11.8   31   31    27    9.5  35.2    0    8   19   0.0  70.4  3109 
   8 Booot 6.2          3049   0.1   31   31    27    9.5  35.2    0    8   19   0.0  70.4  3109 
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by MikeB » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:40 pm

MikeB wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Leo wrote:Stockfish is drawing the weaker engines to much. It looks like there will be a new TCEC Champion this year.
Indeed - SF missed out this time.
Komodo v Houdini in the SuperFinal.
Yes indeed.

Code: Select all

Mac-Pro:cluster.mfb michaelbyrne$ bay
version 0058, Copyright (C) 1997-2016 Remi Coulom and updated by Michael Byrne.
compiled Jul 24 2016 00:03:35.
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under the terms and conditions of the GNU General Public License.
See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for details.

ResultSet>rp /Users/michaelbyrne/Downloads/dl.php.pgn 
109 game(s) loaded
ResultSet>elo
ResultSet-EloRating>mm 0 1
Iteration 100: 0.0130678 
Iteration 200: 0.000372643 
Iteration 300: 1.0666e-05 
00:00:00,00
ResultSet-EloRating>confidence 0.95
0.95
ResultSet-EloRating>r
Rank Name              Rating   Δ     +    -     #     Σ    Σ%     W    L    D   W%    =%   OppR 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1 Komodo 1959.00     3158   0.0   30   30    28   18.5  66.1   11    2   15  39.3  53.6  3092 
   2 Houdini 6.02       3157   0.4   30   30    28   18.5  66.1   10    1   17  35.7  60.7  3092 
   3 Stockfish 051117   3145  11.7   31   31    27   17.0  63.0    7    0   20  25.9  74.1  3093 
   4 Fire 6.2           3120  25.6   33   33    27   15.0  55.6    6    3   18  22.2  66.7  3095 
   5 Chiron 251017      3061  58.5   32   32    27   10.5  38.9    0    6   21   0.0  77.8  3107 
   6 Ginkgo 2.01        3061   0.5   32   32    27   10.5  38.9    1    7   19   3.7  70.4  3107 
   7 Andscacs 0.921     3049  11.8   31   31    27    9.5  35.2    0    8   19   0.0  70.4  3109 
   8 Booot 6.2          3049   0.1   31   31    27    9.5  35.2    0    8   19   0.0  70.4  3109 
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Also, a very nice showing by Fire 6.2 in Stage 2, the only other engine to finish above 50% in Stage 2 besides the Big 3.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by JJJ » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:51 am

So I was right to hope for a Houdini / Komodo final this time. Now I would bet than Houdini is the slighty favorite here and says he will win with 52%.
I think contempt helped Komodo a lot but might be a little less strong in head to head, even if Houdini is not update. But I might be wrong if the next Komodo has won some more elo.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Dan Cooper » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:21 am

JJJ wrote:So I was right to hope for a Houdini / Komodo final this time. Now I would bet than Houdini is the slighty favorite here and says he will win with 52%.
I think contempt helped Komodo a lot but might be a little less strong in head to head, even if Houdini is not update. But I might be wrong if the next Komodo has won some more elo.
They announced a Houdini update in chat.

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