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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Henk » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:39 pm

Only five points difference now, I can't cope with this stress and uncertainty. Winner will probably sell thousands of copies more based on this result.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:53 pm

Henk wrote:Only five points difference now, I can't cope with this stress and uncertainty. Winner will probably sell thousands of copies more based on this result.
I guess it will make very little difference in sales (though it will probably help the winner some).

I suspect a few thousand copies is their entire market, for that matter.
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by shrapnel » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:09 pm

(though it will probably help the winner some)
Only if Houdini wins.
As everyone knows, Komodo security is very poor compared to Houdini's.
So, practically speaking, a Komodo win will make absolutely no difference to its Sales, but a Houdini win will undoubtedly be a BIG boost for Robert Houdart's fortunes ! :)
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Henk » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:29 pm

This may feel like selling/buying put options after a terrorist attack in London and see Stock prices dropping/rising.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Uri Blass » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:05 am

shrapnel wrote:
(though it will probably help the winner some)
Only if Houdini wins.
As everyone knows, Komodo security is very poor compared to Houdini's.
So, practically speaking, a Komodo win will make absolutely no difference to its Sales, but a Houdini win will undoubtedly be a BIG boost for Robert Houdart's fortunes ! :)
This is the harsh REALITY, no matter what the Idealists think.
I doubt if winning TCEC is a big boost when the result is not convincing and we do not have a clear evidence that houdini is better than komodo or stockfish at LTC based on the result.

Note that if you calculate the sum of the points that the program got in stage 1 and stage 2 then stockfish scored better than houdini so there is no evidence that suggest that houdini is stronger than stockfish based on stage 1 and stage 2.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Henk » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:04 pm

You underestimate the stupidity of customers.

If they read somewhere that Houdini won TCEC 10 then they buy Houdini.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by shrapnel » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:51 pm

Henk wrote:You underestimate the stupidity of customers.

If they read somewhere that Houdini won TCEC 10 then they buy Houdini.
:lol: Very true. Exactly what Houdart is relying on !
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Milos » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:13 pm

Uri Blass wrote:I doubt if winning TCEC is a big boost when the result is not convincing and we do not have a clear evidence that houdini is better than komodo or stockfish at LTC based on the result.

Note that if you calculate the sum of the points that the program got in stage 1 and stage 2 then stockfish scored better than houdini so there is no evidence that suggest that houdini is stronger than stockfish based on stage 1 and stage 2.
Most of ppl out of this site (GMs in particular) don't care which engine is the strongest because they don't even know what CCRL or any ranking list is, they just wanna own the champion engine.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by velmarin » Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:37 pm

If we talk about the three top programs:
Stokfish is free...
So I think that whoever buys one also buys the other.....
fifty-fifty
In the forum what they are fighting to say is who was the first to buy K or H. Absurd.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Guenther » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:31 pm

AdminX wrote:1 Houdini 6.03 3185 43.0 79 1548.00 ············· + 13 = 60 - 6
2 Komodo 1970.00 3232 36.0 79 1548.00 + 6 = 60 - 13 ·············

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Funny that Komodo has now +3 -0 =8 out of the last 11 games.
It starts mirroring the first quarter result...
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