What about...... a programmers code?

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Rebel
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Carotino wrote:
Rebel wrote:
Carotino wrote:
Rebel wrote:What about...... a programmers code?

DRAFT (to be worked on)

I hereby declare that the origin of my program:

a) is an original work
b) is a derivative from xxxxx

I hereby solemnly promise:

1. Not to copy the work of other programmers without their express permission.

2. Not to RE the work of other programmers without their express permission.

3. When I use an idea I will mention the source in the README file.

Signature

----------------

Maintain a web-page of those who signed. I offer my space and time.
Very good, Ed!
Great! :wink:

The entry form is launched, see the programmer forum.

http://74.220.23.57/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44047
Ed, I filled the form and click on 'subscribe' ... But my data do not appear (I use Firefox on a Linux box).
:?:

P.S.
I also noticed that I am the only 'pariah/cloner' to subscribe ... I am perhaps the only one in this breed? (Wow, The Last of the Mohicans!)
You are on. And much praise for you not hiding the origin of your engine and play it fair.
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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rbarreira wrote:
michiguel wrote:
rbarreira wrote:I don't see the point. Any developer is innocent until proven guilty, so what exactly does one gain by signing some arbitrary code?
Renew out internal vows with out beloved hobby. Verbalize our sentiments to remember our own standards. Self control encouraged by peer pressure could be very powerful.

Miguel
In that case I would respect more someone who does not sign the code than someone who does (note: in the absence of any other knowledge about the individual). If one needs vows, peer pressure and to sign something in order to behave...
I am sorry I dampened the respect you may have had for me. But I am accustomed to it, it is the story of my life...


Miguel
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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michiguel wrote:
rbarreira wrote:
michiguel wrote:
rbarreira wrote:I don't see the point. Any developer is innocent until proven guilty, so what exactly does one gain by signing some arbitrary code?
Renew out internal vows with out beloved hobby. Verbalize our sentiments to remember our own standards. Self control encouraged by peer pressure could be very powerful.

Miguel
In that case I would respect more someone who does not sign the code than someone who does (note: in the absence of any other knowledge about the individual). If one needs vows, peer pressure and to sign something in order to behave...
I am sorry I dampened the respect you may have had for me. But I am accustomed to it, it is the story of my life...


Miguel
You did miss the note in my post despite my emphasis of it...
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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rbarreira wrote:
michiguel wrote:
rbarreira wrote:
michiguel wrote:
rbarreira wrote:I don't see the point. Any developer is innocent until proven guilty, so what exactly does one gain by signing some arbitrary code?
Renew out internal vows with out beloved hobby. Verbalize our sentiments to remember our own standards. Self control encouraged by peer pressure could be very powerful.

Miguel
In that case I would respect more someone who does not sign the code than someone who does (note: in the absence of any other knowledge about the individual). If one needs vows, peer pressure and to sign something in order to behave...
I am sorry I dampened the respect you may have had for me. But I am accustomed to it, it is the story of my life...


Miguel
You did miss the note in my post despite my emphasis of it...
No, your are missing sense of humor.

Miguel
EDIT: unless you do not know who Rodney Dangerfield was, in that case I apologize.
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Wow, the list grows longer... However, still missing many "heavy engines"!
To subscribe a "declaration of honor" as that of Ed, not enough talk, it takes the balls. :wink:

http://www.top-5000.nl/programmer_code.htm
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Carotino wrote:Wow, the list grows longer... However, still missing many "heavy engines"!
To subscribe a "declaration of honor" as that of Ed, not enough talk, it takes the balls. :wink:

http://www.top-5000.nl/programmer_code.htm
Only 15 programmers have signed the "declaration of honor". The rest ... Silence.

The declaration seems simple, honest, and clear... But lets not mince words, or generic formulas, with which "circumvent" the essential things.
When you must sign something, on your honor, what you wrote is engraved in letters of fire. You can no longer hide behind anything: what is written is written.

Perhaps that is why for many it is an embarrassing thing and they prefer to remain silent.
But yeah, okay, let this argument go out little by little ...
:roll:
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Carotino wrote:
Carotino wrote:Wow, the list grows longer... However, still missing many "heavy engines"!
To subscribe a "declaration of honor" as that of Ed, not enough talk, it takes the balls. :wink:

http://www.top-5000.nl/programmer_code.htm
Only 15 programmers have signed the "declaration of honor". The rest ... Silence.

The declaration seems simple, honest, and clear... But lets not mince words, or generic formulas, with which "circumvent" the essential things.
When you must sign something, on your honor, what you wrote is engraved in letters of fire. You can no longer hide behind anything: what is written is written.

Perhaps that is why for many it is an embarrassing thing and they prefer to remain silent.
But yeah, okay, let this argument go out little by little ...
:roll:
Or perhaps those other developers don't see the need to sign something in public in order to look good in your eyes.

Perhaps it is to be expected that people will use this "code" as an opportunity to demonize developers who don't go along with the herd...
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Honestly, I do not understand nothing left. This "world of engines" is really a strange and convoluted ambient... The clear and simple things, seem to belong to another planet.
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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Carotino wrote:Honestly, I do not understand nothing left. This "world of engines" is really a strange and convoluted ambient... The clear and simple things, seem to belong to another planet.
I agree. For example, simple things such as "innocent until proven guilty", "not jumping to conclusions", "letting people mind their own business" etc.

Many common sense things gradually went out the window as the clone-wars started and escalated.
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Re: What about...... a programmers code?

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The list of honor ( http://www.top-5000.nl/test.htm ) is still poor, but perhaps there is still someone with the balls, in this strange world of empty words.

The Baron has demonstrated the ability to go beyond mere talk. I greet the Baron, and I honor you!