Chris Whittington's Chess System Tal!

[swami]

For what an UCI version?
Fernando

Well, UCI version for watching it play against engines of the same league. CSTal would be in Division 5 and I'd watch it fight its way to victory.

[ArmyBridge]

For what an UCI version?
It is still possible to get CD's incarnation of cstal and all the whistles. Uci engines are bare contrivances without attraction specially if you can put your hand in the real thing.
I have at least three incarnations
a) the original DOS version and the patches of it
b) a windows version with a somewhat stronger engine
c) a second window version delivered by Purple, the company that bought cstal to Chris.
As much commercially speaking the product is no more, I suppose I could copy this stuff and send it to whoever want it.
Someone consider that dishonest?

Fernando

Interesting proposal few weeks ago Ive thought tábout he way to get CST, I love this engine
Regards

[fern]

My proposal is this. Whoever want one, I will send it to him with just one condition. He must pay and send to me any of the listed books -listed by me- at only $5 that are available in Amazon.
In that way my cost of copying and delivering will be payed for a really tiny amount, but still useful for me. And the sender will stay at rest knowing that he is not just a leecher...

My best
Fernando

[chrisw]

My proposal is this. Whoever want one, I will send it to him with just one condition. He must pay and send to me any of the listed books -listed by me- at only $5 that are available in Amazon.
In that way my cost of copying and delivering will be payed for a really tiny amount, but still useful for me. And the sender will stay at rest knowing that he is not just a leecher...

My best
Fernando

I don't mind receiving nothing for the fruits of my labours

Actually I find a strange attitude to "free" distribution of old software. I remember going to a big trade software show back in the eighties which had stands set up for "user groups", basically one-man bands that had support stuff for defunct computers.
There were two there in particular, one for the Lynx and another for a computer whose name I forget, Memotech, I think. Both were selling a range of copied software, both including commercial stuff that I had written.
I objected mildly and both came up with the same reply: "it's old software for an old computer, you can't sell it anymore, so we're not depriving you of any income and causing you no damage so you can't sue us"

[swami]

To estimate the CSTal real ratings, Olivier's list shows the ratings of engines as about 200-300 elo lower, So in his rating list, As far as I know, he is the only tester who has tested CSTal against other engines, CSTal is rated 2252 and Romi 2255.

In CCRL Romip3k is 2508, CSTal would be 2505.
And Tony's list has 2642 for Romi, So CSTal would be around 2638.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

To estimate the CSTal real ratings, Olivier's list shows the ratings of engines as about 200-300 elo lower, So in his rating list, As far as I know, he is the only tester who has tested CSTal against other engines, CSTal is rated 2252 and Romi 2255.

In CCRL Romip3k is 2508, CSTal would be 2505.
And Tony's list has 2642 for Romi, So CSTal would be around 2638.

No,he's not the only one....

Chess System Tal II 2364_188 games played


Reference engine Fruit 2.2.1 2720

This is at long time controls facing several opponents....

[swami]

To estimate the CSTal real ratings, Olivier's list shows the ratings of engines as about 200-300 elo lower, So in his rating list, As far as I know, he is the only tester who has tested CSTal against other engines, CSTal is rated 2252 and Romi 2255.

In CCRL Romip3k is 2508, CSTal would be 2505.
And Tony's list has 2642 for Romi, So CSTal would be around 2638.

No,he's not the only one....

Chess System Tal II 2364_188 games played


Reference engine Fruit 2.2.1 2720

This is at long time controls facing several opponents....

Oh i see. Thanks for this info, Wael. I'd be interested in your rating list as well, can I have it?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

To estimate the CSTal real ratings, Olivier's list shows the ratings of engines as about 200-300 elo lower, So in his rating list, As far as I know, he is the only tester who has tested CSTal against other engines, CSTal is rated 2252 and Romi 2255.

In CCRL Romip3k is 2508, CSTal would be 2505.
And Tony's list has 2642 for Romi, So CSTal would be around 2638.

No,he's not the only one....

Chess System Tal II 2364_188 games played




Reference engine Fruit 2.2.1 2720

This is at long time controls facing several opponents....

Oh i see. Thanks for this info, Wael. I'd be interested in your rating list as well, can I have it?

I am planning soon to rise a web page,I might need some help though,so please stand by

[swami]

I am planning soon to rise a web page,I might need some help though,so please stand by

Ok, You can get a gmail id for yourself, go to googlepages and create one for your own, It's simple. no need for html and all that If you don't have gmail, I can send you one invite, I have some 50 invites left

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I am planning soon to rise a web page,I might need some help though,so please stand by

Ok, You can get a gmail id for yourself, go to googlepages and create one for your own, It's simple. no need for html and all that If you don't have gmail, I can send you one invite, I have some 50 invites left

I see thanks,I have a gmail account and I guess you're talking about the Google page creator,right