Giving Credit: here I agree, although i am surprised you assumed otherwise. But then isn't "going through forward and backward through code and taking ideas" enough of credit?
Please... that is not giving credit.
Then what should Vas do with the issue of a GPL'd fruit? If IP are as they are now he can hardly admit to that without weakening his business. That's also why he is much more cautious now then he was before everybody was really envious.
Please understand that i am not judging Vas here - it's just another point in case for getting rid of some of the "insanity" of the current IP rights system. If taking a little code snippet here and there would be ok, he could freely admit to it and give credit where credit is due. The same would go for the anon "cloners" - no need to hide, no need to obfuscate, and they would get untainted credit for the improvements they made.
I think this is particular true as this "scandal" shows that "secrecy" is still a very good option to seek rents and protect intellecual work. Maybe Vas didn't use his advantage properly here - a quicker and tighter release schedule with new and improved versions would have pulled the rug under any reverse engineering attempts, as those usually take painfully long and have uncertain outcomes.
gerold wrote:
Vas could and may take action if it cuts into his business to much.
He may not get any money from them but the courts could stop the
clone from being put up for sale or even given away for free.
If it went to court i think the people involved in this could be
found
However i do think he will come up with a stronger program and
put R3.1 up as a free program. That would put the clone out
of business. A few other programs may use some ideas from
Robb.Remember this has happened before to Vas and it helped
his sales when he came up with a stronger program.
Best,
Gerold.
I doubt it. The chess software business is to small and profits low. Just look at the balance sheet from chessbase: https://www.ebundesanzeiger.de/ebanzwww ... istoryId=1
It's a solid company, but the risk and legal fees seem in no relation to their potential benefit (if there is any). And they are not just selling rybka, but also fritz, chessbase, multimedia stuff etc.. A couple of threatening letters, yes - they probably should do that to scare. But more than that does really not make sense. Let's hope - for them - that rybka 4 is stronger than the "clone", every dime spend there is worth more than uncertain legal entanglements.
You wrote something that has no impact on what we are talking about here in computerchess among professionals in a sport.
The main problem is psychological, how anons could possibly expect to compete, since they cant.
The other is the theft aspect, that's why they are anons after all.
Look, economy without anything about evolution is really poorly designed.
Just for the record, exactly "who stole what?" Beware of opening a can of worms you may end up eating.
Hi Bob, I admire you patience. But I would have hoped that you did not feed the troll. I for one will not respond to any of his posts.
I know. Old habits are hard to drop, however. My butt is black and blue from where I keep kicking myself for responding to some of these incredibly warped posts.
You wrote something that has no impact on what we are talking about here in computerchess among professionals in a sport.
The main problem is psychological, how anons could possibly expect to compete, since they cant.
The other is the theft aspect, that's why they are anons after all.
Look, economy without anything about evolution is really poorly designed.
Just for the record, exactly "who stole what?" Beware of opening a can of worms you may end up eating.
Hi Bob, I admire you patience. But I would have hoped that you did not feed the troll. I for one will not respond to any of his posts.
I know. Old habits are hard to drop, however. My butt is black and blue from where I keep kicking myself for responding to some of these incredibly warped posts.
Bob, if you had nothing else to do than courting a guy who just wrote 9 messages here and dropping me for him, I would have made a mistake all the time. What do you think my butt is looking like? It's light red like in a baboon! But do what you cant avoid to do.
You wrote something that has no impact on what we are talking about here in computerchess among professionals in a sport.
The main problem is psychological, how anons could possibly expect to compete, since they cant.
The other is the theft aspect, that's why they are anons after all.
Look, economy without anything about evolution is really poorly designed.
Just for the record, exactly "who stole what?" Beware of opening a can of worms you may end up eating.
Hi Bob, I admire you patience. But I would have hoped that you did not feed the troll. I for one will not respond to any of his posts.
I know. Old habits are hard to drop, however. My butt is black and blue from where I keep kicking myself for responding to some of these incredibly warped posts.
Bob, if you had nothing else to do than courting a guy who just wrote 9 messages here and dropping me for him, I would have made a mistake all the time. What do you think my butt is looking like? It's light red like in a baboon! But do what you cant avoid to do.
I don't "drop" nor "pick up" anyone. Anyone that posts a question or comment here, assuming the topic is at all interesting to me, may well get a response from me. I do not read every thread (something that gets me PM complaints because I am a moderator, because we don't take action without members reporting posts.)
You wrote something that has no impact on what we are talking about here in computerchess among professionals in a sport.
The main problem is psychological, how anons could possibly expect to compete, since they cant.
The other is the theft aspect, that's why they are anons after all.
Look, economy without anything about evolution is really poorly designed.
Just for the record, exactly "who stole what?" Beware of opening a can of worms you may end up eating.
Hi Bob, I admire you patience. But I would have hoped that you did not feed the troll. I for one will not respond to any of his posts.
I know. Old habits are hard to drop, however. My butt is black and blue from where I keep kicking myself for responding to some of these incredibly warped posts.
Bob, if you had nothing else to do than courting a guy who just wrote 9 messages here and dropping me for him, I would have made a mistake all the time. What do you think my butt is looking like? It's light red like in a baboon! But do what you cant avoid to do.
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
You wrote something that has no impact on what we are talking about here in computerchess among professionals in a sport.
The main problem is psychological, how anons could possibly expect to compete, since they cant.
The other is the theft aspect, that's why they are anons after all.
Look, economy without anything about evolution is really poorly designed.
Just for the record, exactly "who stole what?" Beware of opening a can of worms you may end up eating.
Hi Bob, I admire you patience. But I would have hoped that you did not feed the troll. I for one will not respond to any of his posts.
I know. Old habits are hard to drop, however. My butt is black and blue from where I keep kicking myself for responding to some of these incredibly warped posts.
Bob, if you had nothing else to do than courting a guy who just wrote 9 messages here and dropping me for him, I would have made a mistake all the time. What do you think my butt is looking like? It's light red like in a baboon! But do what you cant avoid to do.
I don't "drop" nor "pick up" anyone. Anyone that posts a question or comment here, assuming the topic is at all interesting to me, may well get a response from me. I do not read every thread (something that gets me PM complaints because I am a moderator, because we don't take action without members reporting posts.)
It was the great Talleyrand who developped the art of latency. Bob, if you could wander in his footprints you became quickly a philosopher of distinction! Give me 5!
-Popper and Lakatos are good but I'm stuck on Leibowitz
