Can Komodo give knight odds in standard chess to a master?

[duncan]

http://u.komodochess.com/games/live483.html

does mate in 145 mean komodo still played well ?

[cdani]

http://u.komodochess.com/games/live483.html

does mate in 145 mean komodo still played well ?

Komodo was clearly behind the whole game. Only that the game lasted long.

[lkaufman]

Final result was a perfect 3 to 0 sweep by Gilden. Komodo never really had a chance in any game, although it did last 140 moves in game one and 100 moves in game 3. Gilden played remarkably well, never making any serious errors, certainly none that jeopardized the wins, and this just two months before his 75th birthday! Considering that grandmasters make oversights left and right against Komodo, it's hard to explain this. Of course knight odds is much larger than the two pawns or less we normally give GMs, but that hardly seems like a full explanation. Gilden doesn't even own a computer, and I suspect that if I gave him one he would just use it as a table to put a chessboard on! No one predicted this result or even came close. So much congratulations to Larry G, and we will surely be inviting him back for another match at some more suitable handicap.

[Lyudmil Tsvetkov]

Final result was a perfect 3 to 0 sweep by Gilden. Komodo never really had a chance in any game, although it did last 140 moves in game one and 100 moves in game 3. Gilden played remarkably well, never making any serious errors, certainly none that jeopardized the wins, and this just two months before his 75th birthday! Considering that grandmasters make oversights left and right against Komodo, it's hard to explain this. Of course knight odds is much larger than the two pawns or less we normally give GMs, but that hardly seems like a full explanation. Gilden doesn't even own a computer, and I suspect that if I gave him one he would just use it as a table to put a chessboard on! No one predicted this result or even came close. So much congratulations to Larry G, and we will surely be inviting him back for another match at some more suitable handicap.

down with Komodo!
long live Larry Gilden!

hurray.

I suspected a 4:0 sweep, unfortunately, there were only 3 games.

it is completely impossible to give full knight odds at 1 hours games to master level players.

at blitz, yes, but not at that significantly longer TC.

you just change everything and win.

I supposed Gilden will win in 40 or 50 moves, but Komodo proved a tougher nut to crack.

well, those people who would not know a wooden table from a computer are actually the strongest ones.

I managed to see just the beginning of the first game, and Gilden simply picked the right approach, as well as the right opening system.
no risks involved, building a symmetrical structure and then gradually increasing the pressure or changing pieces.

I guess guess this time you simply found the right kind of player to match Komodo.
a player, with a sound strategic approach to the game, and not a tactical one.

tactics does not help against computers, no matter if you are GM or super-GM, what is needed is a sound strategic approach as Gilden displayed.

with such an approach, Komodo could be beaten even with no odds at all.

would be very interesting to see a continuation of this clash, maybe with the 2 pawns advantage, I guess Gilden has chances at least to draw.

will games will available here for browsing?

[Modern Times]

Final result was a perfect 3 to 0 sweep by Gilden. Komodo never really had a chance in any game, although it did last 140 moves in game one and 100 moves in game 3. Gilden played remarkably well, never making any serious errors, certainly none that jeopardized the wins, and this just two months before his 75th birthday! .

Incredible, huge congratulations to him. I certainly didn't expect that.

[Uri Blass]

Final result was a perfect 3 to 0 sweep by Gilden. Komodo never really had a chance in any game, although it did last 140 moves in game one and 100 moves in game 3. Gilden played remarkably well, never making any serious errors, certainly none that jeopardized the wins, and this just two months before his 75th birthday! Considering that grandmasters make oversights left and right against Komodo, it's hard to explain this. Of course knight odds is much larger than the two pawns or less we normally give GMs, but that hardly seems like a full explanation. Gilden doesn't even own a computer, and I suspect that if I gave him one he would just use it as a table to put a chessboard on! No one predicted this result or even came close. So much congratulations to Larry G, and we will surely be inviting him back for another match at some more suitable handicap.

I think that the interesting question for programmers is if they can improve the evaluation of their program in order to beat Komodo at knight odd with time handicap that cause their program to play only at level of 2300 CCRL rating list that I assume to be better than Gilden in normal chess.

I wonder if handicapped komodo(nodes per second that cause it to play at level of 2300 CCRL) can do it.

I guess not but I may guess wrong.

http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

[Look]

Can somebody post all games in this thread?

[duncan]

So much congratulations to Larry G, and we will surely be inviting him back for another match at some more suitable handicap.

knight for pawn ?

[Nordlandia]

No one predicted this result or even came close. So much congratulations to Larry G, and we will surely be inviting him back for another match at some more suitable handicap.

Next time Larry G play Komodo, here is my suggestion ->

Larry can still castle artificially. Knight for lost castling rights may be weird but atleast worth a try.

[Guenther]

Can somebody post all games in this thread?

Because of some broadcasting errors you have to wait until the complete pgn is fixed.