Last Rybka Thread for now...

[trojanfoe]

Basically those people, who had anything against Rybka 1 year ago, are the same people who are complaining about Rybka now. But it looks like that the "anti-Rybka" group has not added any new programmers in to their group with their new "clone" accusations.

You sure about that 'Titu'?

BTW I thought you had to give your full name when registering here?

[Graham Banks]

What has 'supposedly' happened hasn't been proven yet and your 'proof' might well get refuted anyway.
I think that Vas's request is perfectly reasonable. Put your case together in its entirety with the questions you'd like answered. Then let him have the chance to respond rather than trying to execute him before he's had that chance.

Graham,
Vas has not answered any of the initial questions yet, and they were posted quite some time ago. We are not pressing it...he can take as much time as he likes to respond.

but according to you, while we're waiting for his response, the onus is squarely on us to (instantly/quickly) produce a 'case'?

it not up to you and Chris to determine if anything else needs to be presented. it is not a court case, there is no judge, and you're not the judge.

and we have all clearly stated on multiple occassions, that we do not think that Vas should stop, in any event, even if the worse case scenario is true. No one is calling for an 'execution'...that's absurd.

You're correct in that I'm not the judge.
That's supposedly what the FSF is for.
However, your side seemingly won't take your case to the FSF because Christophe has stated they'll probably not be interested.
So why continue to moan and groan here in that case? That smacks of being a witch hunt for sure.

[Terry McCracken]

What has 'supposedly' happened hasn't been proven yet and your 'proof' might well get refuted anyway.
I think that Vas's request is perfectly reasonable. Put your case together in its entirety with the questions you'd like answered. Then let him have the chance to respond rather than trying to execute him before he's had that chance.

Graham,
Vas has not answered any of the initial questions yet, and they were posted quite some time ago. We are not pressing it...he can take as much time as he likes to respond.

but according to you, while we're waiting for his response, the onus is squarely on us to (instantly/quickly) produce a 'case'?

it not up to you and Chris to determine if anything else needs to be presented. it is not a court case, there is no judge, and you're not the judge.

and we have all clearly stated on multiple occassions, that we do not think that Vas should stop, in any event, even if the worse case scenario is true. No one is calling for an 'execution'...that's absurd.

You're correct in that I'm not the judge.
That's supposedly what the FSF is for.
However, your side seemingly won't take your case to the FSF because Christophe has stated they'll probably not be interested.
So why continue to moan and groan here in that case? That smacks of being a witch hunt for sure.

No, that means you don't understand what's going on.

I'm sorry to be so blunt but it appears impossible to explain this to you, and not just you it would appear.

Minus emotion then there might be a chance to have intelligent discourse.

[Graham Banks]

When have you become an expert on this topic? You know better than Christophe et al? Why do you listen to Chris who talks in circles? Why is Ed better than Bob, Zach, Christophe et al?

What do you need? God to annouce a verdict? This is all too far out in left field and very, very obtuse.


Stick with testing. Please!

I am not a programmer, but I can read just as well as anybody else and come to my own conclusions about what is happening.

If Zach, Christophe, etc think that Vas has breached the GPL, then the FSF is who they should take their case to.
The fact that they don't seem interested in doing so speaks volumes.

Seeing as there's seemingly no point in going through official channels, the decision seems to have been made to drag his name through the mud in public instead.

I agree with Ed that the procedure is wrong.

[Graham Banks]

No, that means you don't understand what's going on.

I'm sorry to be so blunt but it appears impossible to explain this to you, and not just you it would appear.

Minus emotion then there might be a chance to have intelligent discourse.

Then please explain to me what is going on from your point of view.
To me, it's a bit like, "the teacher won't believe me when I tell her that that this boy has been bullying somebody, so I'll get my mates to gang up and give him the bash".

[Terry McCracken]

No, that means you don't understand what's going on.

I'm sorry to be so blunt but it appears impossible to explain this to you, and not just you it would appear.

Minus emotion then there might be a chance to have intelligent discourse.

Then please explain to me what is going on from your point of view.
To me, it's a bit like, "the teacher won't believe me when I tell her that that this boy has been bullying somebody, so I'll get my mates to gang up and give him the bash".

I've tried. You can't understand it as you don't even know the situation.

Your anology doesn't apply, you're talking about something that isn't even there on a very low level.