The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: f6

[d]2b2rk1/2n3pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K b - - 0 6
SF plays Ne8 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP4B/8/2Q2R1K w - - 1 7
Qe3

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/5R1K b - - 0 7
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Re: The future shift

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And now twice to c7 and back to e8 again with the Knight, whilst White goes straight forward with his pawn- storm, then Lyudmil has reached one of the positions of his dreams.
:)
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qe3

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/5R1K b - - 0 7
SF plays Qb6 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/1q2pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/5R1K w - - 3 8
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Qe3

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/4pP2/q2p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/5R1K b - - 0 7
SF plays Qb6 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/1q2pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/5R1K w - - 3 8
Rg1

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/1q2pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/6RK b - - 0 8

Please note that black has only moves, 1 line with about equal score, still, and 4-5 lines with 5-6 pawns white advantage, or mate.

This is certainly not an equal position, even if SF does not crack. :)
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:Please note that black has only moves, 1 line with about equal score, still, and 4-5 lines with 5-6 pawns white advantage, or mate.

This is certainly not an equal position, even if SF does not crack. :)
:lol:
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Re: The future shift

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Stockfish will probably play Qc7 with eval 0
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Please note that black has only moves, 1 line with about equal score, still, and 4-5 lines with 5-6 pawns white advantage, or mate.

This is certainly not an equal position, even if SF does not crack. :)
If there is one line that draws and a thousand that lose, the position is a draw. Equal. You are thinking like a human, assuming your imperfect opponent will blunder and lose. In the realm of perfect play there are no errors. (Of course, SF is far from perfect.)

In any case, I was delayed a bit. SF's reply will arrive soon.
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Rg1

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/1q2pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/6RK b - - 0 8
As predicted by Jean Baptiste, SF plays Qc7 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/2q3pp/4pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/6RK w - - 5 9
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Rg1

[d]2b1nrk1/6pp/1q2pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/6RK b - - 0 8
As predicted by Jean Baptiste, SF plays Qc7 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b1nrk1/2q3pp/4pP2/3p2PN/2pP3P/1pP1Q2B/8/6RK w - - 5 9
Sorry, Louis, this will result in a draw again, although SF had only moves for a long time.

I simply force things all the time, when I should do precisely the opposite.
Obviously not in good form.

Let's just very quickly, if you do not mind, check what happens after Qa5 Qb2 instead of Bh3, with the aim of kicking the queen and winning some tempos. Then we might rest at peace, if SF draws again, but I think this time it will lose.

[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K b - - 0 6
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Sorry, Louis, this will result in a draw again, although SF had only moves for a long time.
...
Let's just very quickly, if you do not mind, check what happens after ...
Déjà-vu...
:lol:
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