The future shift

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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Sorry, Louis, this will result in a draw again, although SF had only moves for a long time.

I simply force things all the time, when I should do precisely the opposite.
Obviously not in good form.

Let's just very quickly, if you do not mind, check what happens after Qa5 Qb2 instead of Bh3, with the aim of kicking the queen and winning some tempos. Then we might rest at peace, if SF draws again, but I think this time it will lose.

[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K b - - 0 6
OK, but I might need to leave for a while after SF's reply, which I'll post soon.
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K b - - 0 6
Not quite as deep as other searches, but SF likes Nc7 with evaluation 36 cp in favor of Black (though this would likely drop to 0 in time).
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K w - - 3 5

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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
[d]2b1nrk1/5ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K b - - 0 6
Not quite as deep as other searches, but SF likes Nc7 with evaluation 36 cp in favor of Black (though this would likely drop to 0 in time).
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/5R1K w - - 3 5

Back in less than an hour.
Thanks Louis.

Nc7 is probably best.

Ra1

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/R6K b - - 0 7

I think I already saw mate in this line, at last...
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I think I already saw mate in this line, at last...
:lol:

I have another good one:
Could you show the line?
:lol:

This one is a little weaker:
Was it White or Black mated?
:)
Peter.
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Thanks Louis.

Nc7 is probably best.

Ra1

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/R6K b - - 0 7

I think I already saw mate in this line, at last...
SF plays Qb6 with eval now at 0 once more.
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/1q6/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/R6K w - - 5 6

A mate here would certainly suggest a serious deficiency in SF.
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Re: The future shift

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peter wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I think I already saw mate in this line, at last...
:lol:

I have another good one:
Could you show the line?
:lol:

This one is a little weaker:
Was it White or Black mated?
:)
I think pumpkins can not distinguish between white and black, but you will see it, it is unavoidable.

Got it, Baumwolle? :D
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:I think pumpkins can not distinguish between white and black, but you will see it, it is unavoidable.

Got it, Baumwolle? :D
I hope you didn't understand pumpkin in the meaning of Kürbis, which I fear reading you calling me Baumwolle.
:)
Of course I wrote it in the meaning of Schätzchen, lieber Lyudmil!
:)
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Thanks Louis.

Nc7 is probably best.

Ra1

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/8/q2pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/R6K b - - 0 7

I think I already saw mate in this line, at last...
SF plays Qb6 with eval now at 0 once more.
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/1q6/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP5/1Q4B1/R6K w - - 5 6

A mate here would certainly suggest a serious deficiency in SF.
Bh3

[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/1q6/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K b - - 0 8
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Re: The future shift

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh3
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/1q6/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K b - - 0 8
SF says Nb5 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/5ppp/1q6/1n1pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K w - - 7 7
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Re: The future shift

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zullil wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: Bh3
[d]2b2rk1/2n2ppp/1q6/3pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K b - - 0 8
SF says Nb5 with evaluation 0.
[d]2b2rk1/5ppp/1q6/1n1pPPPN/2pP3P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K w - - 7 7
Nf4

[d]2b2rk1/5ppp/1q6/1n1pPPP1/2pP1N1P/1pP4B/1Q6/R6K b - - 0 9