It seems like there is plenty of Fruit around, anyway one puts it. Claims by Vas/Rybka may, may not or be partially relevant. The success of Rybka seems to be mainly Fruit with some great piece of thinking and implementation by Vas, hats off for that. No one knows if Vas could have produced a serious engine, with that great piece of thinking, without Fruit. But at the end of the day it seems like the two (or more) sides are doing like there is a hunt for a suitcase containing a million bucks going on. Sounds like blown up egos to me. Grown men acting like little children. Mostly a symptom of family jewelry too small...yawn.
Have a nice day,
Kaj
A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement
This happens when real experts deny to make a clear statement. And this is exactly what this O figure has expected. I always knew that this is against Vasik and his Rybka. It began witrh Donninger. When he wasnt criticised it was the insinuated order to create a clone on the base of the decompiled source code of Rybka. There is no ethics in computerchess and like always the fish _____! If the head is manipulating, the people believe there is no hinderance against un-kosher evil. The people, but not Rolf! There is still hope!Kaj Soderberg wrote:It seems like there is plenty of Fruit around, anyway one puts it. Claims by Vas/Rybka may, may not or be partially relevant. The success of Rybka seems to be mainly Fruit with some great piece of thinking and implementation by Vas, hats off for that. No one knows if Vas could have produced a serious engine, with that great piece of thinking, without Fruit. But at the end of the day it seems like the two (or more) sides are doing like there is a hunt for a suitcase containing a million bucks going on. Sounds like blown up egos to me. Grown men acting like little children. Mostly a symptom of family jewelry too small...yawn.
Have a nice day,
Kaj
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Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!
Rolf wrote:You know what is really sad, that if this figure is a psycho nut then a court couldnt do anything. Look, he invited Vas for a cup of tea but didnt specify the city nor country where he's residing. From his alleging of claiming to be Napoleon I have a serious suspicion that he might in fact sit in a safe place in the neighborhood of many more historical figures.Albert Silver wrote:So he wants to be recognized as a genius? Strange person. I guess if he can't make money from Strelka, this is the next best thing. Pretty sad.GenoM wrote:From KasparovChess forum:
http://kasparovchess.crestbook.com/view ... 65#p135465
Youri Osipov wrote: Vas: I've taken a look this morning at the Strelka 2.0 sources.
In early december Vasik already had the source code of the last version of Strelka. He himself wrote about this in rybkaforum.
Vas: Vast sections of these sources started their life as a decompiled Rybka 1.0.
If this is true then I am a genius. Thanks for the compliments.
Albert
I wished the CCC could support my offer:
WANTED Osipov, Uncle of Strelka!
I offer 1000 US $$ to the first person who gives me the dtails of Osipov identity in real life, with exact address and if possible, country or continent...
Remember I offer 1000 US $$ just to know if Osipov is Otto v. Bismark or a 12 year old Yuri Gagarin.
That money will be intended to be for the support of this forum. I want Osipov alive, to be right on the point. So please, all self-justice guys stay out of this. Osipov can certainly be resocialised and still keep his talents alive.
signed by me - with GENS UNA SUMUS in mind.
Rolf, in complete sincerity, make the offer $10,000 and i will make a couple of phone calls and have the answer for you within 48 hours. Short of that , what was it that Humphrey Bogart said in Casablanca?- "Frankly my dear, i dont give a damn".
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Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!
Dream on. I had contact with Vidanovic from Skopje during the US bombings, but I have nothing in common with your games. It's typical for you to focus on the little tea comment rather than speaking about the Strelka theft.slobo wrote:Rolf, he had in mind a virual cup of tea. You and me took a lot of them in the past. Remember?Rolf wrote:You know what is really sad, that if this figure is a psycho nut then a court couldnt do anything. Look, he invited Vas for a cup of tea but didnt specify the city nor country where he's residing.Albert Silver wrote:So he wants to be recognized as a genius? Strange person. I guess if he can't make money from Strelka, this is the next best thing. Pretty sad.GenoM wrote:From KasparovChess forum:
http://kasparovchess.crestbook.com/view ... 65#p135465
Youri Osipov wrote: Vas: I've taken a look this morning at the Strelka 2.0 sources.
In early december Vasik already had the source code of the last version of Strelka. He himself wrote about this in rybkaforum.
Vas: Vast sections of these sources started their life as a decompiled Rybka 1.0.
If this is true then I am a genius. Thanks for the compliments.
Albert
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Re: A comment of Yuri Osipov about V.Rajlich statement
Gerold,gerold wrote:Thanks for the other side of the story
I hope I have contributed a little bit for your liking of the other side of the story. I mean: in general.

"Well, I´m just a soul whose intentions are good,
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
Oh Lord, please don´t let me be misunderstood."
Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!
And I always thought it was Clark Gable in "Gone with the Wind".geots wrote: Short of that , what was it that Humphrey Bogart said in Casablanca?- "Frankly my dear, i dont give a damn".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankly,_m ... e_a_damn.
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." is a line from the 1939 film Gone with the Wind starring Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh.
Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!
Don't know about anonymity or mental stability. However, I think "windbag" would be an apt description.Andrej Sidorov wrote:Rolf, what about your identity information? Or you just anonymous psycho? You look like one.

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Re: 1000 US$$ for Osipov identity in real life!
Nid Hogge wrote:And I always thought it was Clark Gable in "Gone with the Wind".geots wrote: Short of that , what was it that Humphrey Bogart said in Casablanca?- "Frankly my dear, i dont give a damn".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankly,_m ... e_a_damn.
[/quote"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn." is a line from the 1939 film Gone with the Wind starring Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh.
Hell, you very well could be right. My mind is not what it used to be.