CCRL 40/40, 40/4 and FRC lists updated (27th August 2017)

[lucasart]

Hi Graham,

September 2nd. http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... e_cpu.html

How come Stockfish 8 was removed from the pure list?

Thanks,

SugaR XPrO 1.2 64-bit is in the Stockfish 'family' and has a higher rating.

Of course it's your rating list, so you can do what you want. But by testing these clones, you are rewarding trolls that add zero value to the community. Any incompetent programmer can take the latest SF code, slap his name on it, and make trivial changes. There are literally hundreds of such clones.

Anyone of them can beat SF by pure random luck. At least you should account for that. If the LOS is below 95%, it's not statistically significant, so yet another useless clone…

Of course it should be compared to the latest SF, not SF 8. Comparing Sugar, which is SF dev (plus random crap with no elo value) to SF 8, which we know is 30 elo weaker, is comparing apples with oranges…

[Modern Times]

Hopefully Stockfish 9 isn't too far away and that would take its place back on the pure list.

[Norm Pollock]

Hi Graham,

September 2nd. http://www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/40 ... e_cpu.html

How come Stockfish 8 was removed from the pure list?

Thanks,

SugaR XPrO 1.2 64-bit is in the Stockfish 'family' and has a higher rating.

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

[Modern Times]

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

Personally I really don't know what asmfish is all about exactly or where to get it. I haven't followed it because I've stuck to SF and the abrock SF Dev builds.

[Graham Banks]

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

I don't intend testing other Stockfish derivatives.

[Guenther]

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

I don't intend testing other Stockfish derivatives.

Actually it is not really a derivative. Also it does not pretend to add something to the source code, as many useless SF derivates. (Sugar included)

It is a translation of the SF source code to assembler and this makes it faster
to a degree it is around 20-30 rating points above the regarding dev version.

There was definetely no need to add a zerbinated SF.

[JJJ]

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

I don't intend testing other Stockfish derivatives.

Actually it is not really a derivative. Also it does not pretend to add something to the source code, as many useless SF derivates. (Sugar included)

It is a translation of the SF source code to assembler and this makes it faster
to a degree it is around 20-30 rating points above the regarding dev version.

There was definetely no need to add a zerbinated SF.

It is 20 elo only at bullet and elo gain disapear when you increase enough time control.

[Graham Banks]

When SugaR and the latest SF play each other, I see enough differences in the principal variations to feel happy about testing SugaR.

Anyway, when Stockfish 9 comes out, I would imagine it will be stronger.

[PCM72]

I like these kind of replies to the "random crap" of assumptions

[Modern Times]

Why not test asmFish? It is also a member of the family.

Personally I really don't know what asmfish is all about exactly or where to get it. I haven't followed it because I've stuck to SF and the abrock SF Dev builds.

I've found asmFISH. Latest version 25 Aug 2017 ? I'm running some games to get an idea of how it performs.

I'd guess SF9 is several months away, although you never know when they may hit on something that gives a big improvement.