For ZACH WEGNER

[Zach Wegner]

That was never the point, Ryan.

Then what is it George?

I'm still expecting a PM or an email with all of this... well, I'm not exactly sure what it is. But I am waiting...

[swami]

Zack you're a brilliantly talented young man, you needn't concern yourself over empty rhetoric.

Terry

I agree, Zach has released the pretty decent open source program, and has been reasonable so far.

he doesn't deserve empty threats from some people who claim "imaginary" or "so-called anonymous" friend-programmers told them about his code offline. It's just pure utter nonsense.

I assure you they are not "imaginary"- about as far as you can get from that. Personally- i dont see anything wrong with: You attack my friend with foolish crap- prepare to be attacked yourself.

First: I don't know who these people are.

Second: How can I attack them If I don't know their names? or without knowing if it is true? It's not an attack.

Swami- you missed my point. I was referring to the attack on Vas when i made the above statement about "attack- be attacked"

Hi George,

Sorry for misunderstanding, but I don't see any attack on Vas's character although I have not read all of the posts, What I read so far are concerning the similarities of 2 engines, Mods have agreed to post the sticky notice "discussion is fine, libel not", so they must surely allow these discussion about similarities in code, no?

[geots]

Zack you're a brilliantly talented young man, you needn't concern yourself over empty rhetoric.

Terry

I agree, Zach has released the pretty decent open source program, and has been reasonable so far.

he doesn't deserve empty threats from some people who claim "imaginary" or "so-called anonymous" friend-programmers told them about his code offline. It's just pure utter nonsense.

I assure you they are not "imaginary"- about as far as you can get from that. Personally- i dont see anything wrong with: You attack my friend with foolish crap- prepare to be attacked yourself.

First: I don't know who these people are.

Second: How can I attack them If I don't know their names? or without knowing if it is true? It's not an attack.

Swami- you missed my point. I was referring to the attack on Vas when i made the above statement about "attack- be attacked"

Hi George,

Sorry for misunderstanding, but I don't see any attack on Vas's character although I have not read all of the posts, What I read so far are concerning the similarities of 2 engines, Mods have agreed to post the sticky notice "discussion is fine, libel not", so they must surely allow these discussion about similarities in code, no?

Swami, that is far from the issue as i see it. It has been stated more than once that the evidence is not fully there yet, but still being worked on. And it has gone so far as to have been said by Zach that it could go either way , IHO. Swami- it just doesnt work that way. FIRST- present your evidence- ALL you have. That is the starting point. Then you go from there. If the evidence is not ready, you dont drag someones commercial program thru the mud for 6 days while preparing this "so called " evidence.

[geots]

That was never the point, Ryan.

Then what is it George?

I'm still expecting a PM or an email with all of this... well, I'm not exactly sure what it is. But I am waiting...

Hell you got me all hung up here. Im still trying to absorb your last mail and how im supposed to apologize to myself.

[bob]

And by the way, I invite EVERYONE, especially programmers, to look through my code. It's easily visible online, no need to download anything: http://zct.cvs.sourceforge.net/zct/zct/

I promise you that you do not want to hear what they told me on a public forum.

I'm pretty sure we don't want to hear anything they have to say on any forum. But not for the reason you are implying...

Sic 'em on my code next, that ought to be good for a laugh, once the "professionals" figure out what I do and how, which might keep 'em busy for a while.

[bob]

That was never the point, Ryan.

Then what is it George?

I'm still expecting a PM or an email with all of this... well, I'm not exactly sure what it is. But I am waiting...

Zach:

First rule of message boards, "do not feed the trolls". I know we all get sucked into it, but if you stop feeding them, they die and don't bother anyone any more...

[geots]

That was never the point, Ryan.

Then what is it George?

I'm still expecting a PM or an email with all of this... well, I'm not exactly sure what it is. But I am waiting...

Zach:

First rule of message boards, "do not feed the trolls". I know we all get sucked into it, but if you stop feeding them, they die and don't bother anyone any more...

I wasnt going to really bring this up, but since you are calling me a "troll"- i think i have the right to say that you are the one person on this forum i have absolutley zero use for- will never have any use for- and thank God you feel the same way.

[geots]

And by the way, I invite EVERYONE, especially programmers, to look through my code. It's easily visible online, no need to download anything: http://zct.cvs.sourceforge.net/zct/zct/

I promise you that you do not want to hear what they told me on a public forum.

I'm pretty sure we don't want to hear anything they have to say on any forum. But not for the reason you are implying...

Sic 'em on my code next, that ought to be good for a laugh, once the "professionals" figure out what I do and how, which might keep 'em busy for a while.

Rybka- 30 Crafty- 0 Exactly who would care about your code

[Ryan Benitez]

And by the way, I invite EVERYONE, especially programmers, to look through my code. It's easily visible online, no need to download anything: http://zct.cvs.sourceforge.net/zct/zct/

I promise you that you do not want to hear what they told me on a public forum.

I'm pretty sure we don't want to hear anything they have to say on any forum. But not for the reason you are implying...

Sic 'em on my code next, that ought to be good for a laugh, once the "professionals" figure out what I do and how, which might keep 'em busy for a while.

Rybka- 30 Crafty- 0 Exactly who would care about your code

Almost every programmer including the one who wrote the program you are comparing it to has studied Crafty. I am not 100% sure what Prof. Hyatts goal is with Crafty but the reality is that it is used as a learning tool for most programmers in computer chess.

[Zach Wegner]

Hell you got me all hung up here. Im still trying to absorb your last mail and how im supposed to apologize to myself.

Hmph. Still waiting George.