56. Qf3, Bh6 (Telepath: -0.03)
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Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
57. Qd1, f5 (Telepath: -0.02)
58. g3, Bg7 (Telepath:-0.04)
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58. g3, Bg7 (Telepath:-0.04)
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
59. Qf3, Rf8 (Telepath: -0.05)
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
[Event "all in 2h"]
[Site "CCC -public-fight"]
[Date "2008.09.20"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Saitek Sparc"]
[Black "Telepath 4.102 Exp 2"]
[ECO "D55"]
[Result "*"]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. c4 d5 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Nc3 h6 6. Bxf6
Bxf6 7. e3 O-O 8. Rc1 a6 9. cxd5 {"} exd5 {"} 10. Qb3 c6
11. Bd3 a5 12. Na4 b5 13. Nc5 Bg4 14. a4 b4 15. O-O Nd7
16. Nxd7 Bxd7 17. Rc2 Re8 18. Rfc1 Rc8 19. Ba6 Rc7 20. Bb5
Qa8 21. Bd3 g6 22. h3 Rcc8 23. Nd2 Bg7 24. Qa2 h5 25. Nb3
Rc7 26. Kh1 Re7 27. Nd2 Rc8 28. Rc5 Be8 29. Kg1 Rcc7
30. Qb3 Bd7 31. Qd1 Ra7 32. Qf3 Qb8 33. Nb3 Qb6 34. Qg3 Re8
35. R5c2 Kh7 36. Nc5 Bc8 37. Qd6 {+0.83} Bf8 38. Qf4 Kg8
39. Nb3 Bd7 40. Qg3 Bg7 41. Qd6 Rd8 42. Qf4 Re8 43. Nc5 Bc8
44. b3 Rae7 45. Qd6 Bf8 46. Qg3 Bg7 47. Kh2 Be6 48. Na6 Rc8
49. Qg5 Ra7 50. Nc5 Re8 51. Nxe6 Rxe6 52. Kg1 Rd7 53. Qg3
Rd8 54. Qf4 Rde8 55. Kh1 Bf8 56. Qf3 Bh6 57. Qd1 f5 58. g3
Bg7 59. Qf3 Rf8 60. Qf4 *
[Site "CCC -public-fight"]
[Date "2008.09.20"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Saitek Sparc"]
[Black "Telepath 4.102 Exp 2"]
[ECO "D55"]
[Result "*"]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. d4 e6 3. c4 d5 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Nc3 h6 6. Bxf6
Bxf6 7. e3 O-O 8. Rc1 a6 9. cxd5 {"} exd5 {"} 10. Qb3 c6
11. Bd3 a5 12. Na4 b5 13. Nc5 Bg4 14. a4 b4 15. O-O Nd7
16. Nxd7 Bxd7 17. Rc2 Re8 18. Rfc1 Rc8 19. Ba6 Rc7 20. Bb5
Qa8 21. Bd3 g6 22. h3 Rcc8 23. Nd2 Bg7 24. Qa2 h5 25. Nb3
Rc7 26. Kh1 Re7 27. Nd2 Rc8 28. Rc5 Be8 29. Kg1 Rcc7
30. Qb3 Bd7 31. Qd1 Ra7 32. Qf3 Qb8 33. Nb3 Qb6 34. Qg3 Re8
35. R5c2 Kh7 36. Nc5 Bc8 37. Qd6 {+0.83} Bf8 38. Qf4 Kg8
39. Nb3 Bd7 40. Qg3 Bg7 41. Qd6 Rd8 42. Qf4 Re8 43. Nc5 Bc8
44. b3 Rae7 45. Qd6 Bf8 46. Qg3 Bg7 47. Kh2 Be6 48. Na6 Rc8
49. Qg5 Ra7 50. Nc5 Re8 51. Nxe6 Rxe6 52. Kg1 Rd7 53. Qg3
Rd8 54. Qf4 Rde8 55. Kh1 Bf8 56. Qf3 Bh6 57. Qd1 f5 58. g3
Bg7 59. Qf3 Rf8 60. Qf4 *
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
no moves for 30 minutes
was a draw agreed ??
Steve
was a draw agreed ??
Steve
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
AdjournmentSteve B wrote:no moves for 30 minutes
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was a draw agreed ??
Steve
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
you must be exhausted Charles considering you started at 6:00 am todayCRoberson wrote:AdjournmentSteve B wrote:no moves for 30 minutes
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was a draw agreed ??
Steve
i was tired after our game alone but i managed to get some shut eye in while you were playing this game
having said that..
would you like to begin our second game straight away after you finish this one with Thor?
J/K Regards
Steve
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
i have to mention that i am amazed by Thors Sparc module
so far it is holding Telepath to a draw and his module is also undefeated in the dedicated tournament Thor is running against other dedicated computers
sadly..my Sparc however is not nearly as good it seems
when i competed in the dedicated computer tournament in Paris this past May i was lucky to finish second from last and i was using a Sparc module with 4MB for hash tables instead of the more normal 1MB
http://www.zanchetta.net/echecs/Paris2008/default.aspx
Astonished Regards
Steve
so far it is holding Telepath to a draw and his module is also undefeated in the dedicated tournament Thor is running against other dedicated computers
sadly..my Sparc however is not nearly as good it seems
when i competed in the dedicated computer tournament in Paris this past May i was lucky to finish second from last and i was using a Sparc module with 4MB for hash tables instead of the more normal 1MB
http://www.zanchetta.net/echecs/Paris2008/default.aspx
Astonished Regards
Steve
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
it was 2 a.m. in germany when we agreed to continue later with the game. maybe, as you said, charles was tired too from the london games before.
maybe sparc was lucky. there was a weakness in telepaths position (backwards pawn c6), and the whole game they shuffled arround the pieces to get this weakness
used.
of course sparc could not search as deep as telepath, but 8 or 9 plies were reached while telepath computed 19 or 20, as charles said.
the game can still turn arround of course if it changes into an endgame and telepath outsearches sparc.
what we can see from the games is IMO the different playing style of london and sparc.
we saw the typical knight on the edge moves by sparc. as it seems the program has no malus for bringing the knights on the a or h file.
so there is hope !!
concerning my oldie tournament, it is not strong with opponent participants like your tournament in paris was.
but i decided to bring a chessmachine with the koning program into the competition. so sparc will have at least a tough opponent with the chessmachine512 and maybe the king2.2 or another version number.
The problem with the old the koning versions for disc is, that the discs were copyprotected and the copyprotection (if you want to install them) says: your version run out of date (or message similar like this).
so although you are the owner of the thing, suddenly you cannot install the discs anymore because of this behaviour.
i hope sparc can draw this game. and that we can spread hope for the
dedicated machine community...
maybe sparc was lucky. there was a weakness in telepaths position (backwards pawn c6), and the whole game they shuffled arround the pieces to get this weakness
used.
of course sparc could not search as deep as telepath, but 8 or 9 plies were reached while telepath computed 19 or 20, as charles said.
the game can still turn arround of course if it changes into an endgame and telepath outsearches sparc.
what we can see from the games is IMO the different playing style of london and sparc.
we saw the typical knight on the edge moves by sparc. as it seems the program has no malus for bringing the knights on the a or h file.
so there is hope !!
concerning my oldie tournament, it is not strong with opponent participants like your tournament in paris was.
but i decided to bring a chessmachine with the koning program into the competition. so sparc will have at least a tough opponent with the chessmachine512 and maybe the king2.2 or another version number.
The problem with the old the koning versions for disc is, that the discs were copyprotected and the copyprotection (if you want to install them) says: your version run out of date (or message similar like this).
so although you are the owner of the thing, suddenly you cannot install the discs anymore because of this behaviour.
i hope sparc can draw this game. and that we can spread hope for the
dedicated machine community...
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Re: Online Match: Telepath vs Saitek Kasparov Sparc
i was not really serious about your Sparc being better than mine
only joking
however it should also be remembered that Paris was at much faster time controls of 30 seconds avg per move while these games are 2 minutes per move
i think the Sparc's play improves dramatically at longer controls even more so than other computers..Sparky is not such a good Blitz player and needs the extra time
BTW...the Pgn score for the Telepath v London game does not show the Time Control as your game does
perhaps as moderator you can edit the post and just mention the Time control?
PGN post for Game 1 Telepath v London:
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 431#219431
Ready for Game Two Regards
Steve
only joking
however it should also be remembered that Paris was at much faster time controls of 30 seconds avg per move while these games are 2 minutes per move
i think the Sparc's play improves dramatically at longer controls even more so than other computers..Sparky is not such a good Blitz player and needs the extra time
BTW...the Pgn score for the Telepath v London game does not show the Time Control as your game does
perhaps as moderator you can edit the post and just mention the Time control?
PGN post for Game 1 Telepath v London:
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 431#219431
Ready for Game Two Regards
Steve