Houdini 3.0 --> Tuning

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

Did you mean: They did not copied any other program?

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

It's part of life that some people resent success, in whatever form.
There's a nice saying in Dutch: "Hoge bomen vangen veel wind" (tall trees catch a lot of wind).
One quickly learns to ignore the haters...

Ignoring the haters won't change some certain facts related to you and your chess engine.......
Dr.D

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

It's part of life that some people resent success, in whatever form.
There's a nice saying in Dutch: "Hoge bomen vangen veel wind" (tall trees catch a lot of wind).
One quickly learns to ignore the haters...

Every dog has his day
and remember: We'll be here when you fall.

When you fall,I'll be there for you....the floor

[A Distel]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

It's part of life that some people resent success, in whatever form.
There's a nice saying in Dutch: "Hoge bomen vangen veel wind" (tall trees catch a lot of wind).
One quickly learns to ignore the haters...

Ignoring the haters won't change some certain facts related to you and your chess engine.......
Dr.D

There is another saying in Flemish (Belgian Dutch)
"Het doel heiligt de middelen." ◦Literal translation: "The purpose sanctifies the means."
◦Meaning: "Anything goes if you really want to get something done."
◦Meaning: "If you want something, everything is allowed."
◦English equivalent: "The end justifies the means."

[Lavir]

Did you mean: They did not copied any other program?

Hypocrisy 101.

They copied as everybody else copied. Everybody copies ideas from other programs at that level and many of these people even reversed engineered Houdini to see the ideas in it (do you understand it?).

And copying ideas is the IMPORTANT part, not code. Code you can do by yourself with a little work (time more than anything else) and everybody can come with a little better implementation of existing code; ideas are the difficult thing to come by.

It is much worse to steal an idea than steal code and it is difficult to pretend that Robert stole ideas from the others for Houdini, isn't it?.

You can simply copy a code of a program because you don't want to start from beginning typing everything because it is just a waste of time (meaning: you could do it without problems, but why waste time? For what? For the hypocrisy of "not copying" code? That's just idiocy) and the important things are elsewhere.

People that don't want their code to be watched etc. is because they have ideas inside that code, not for the code itself, that EVERY programmer (even mediocre) can come by with a little of time and work.

In short: code is just programmer's work, it is mannerism; ideas inside the code are, instead, the art. Every programmer given an idea (coming from outside or from himself) can implement it without problems, not every programmer can come up with a valid idea, and there's the difference.

[kinderchocolate]

Komodo, Critter and everything else copies code. Only Houdini is blamed because it's the number one.

[Lavir]

There is another saying in Flemish (Belgian Dutch)
"Het doel heiligt de middelen." ◦Literal translation: "The purpose sanctifies the means."
◦Meaning: "Anything goes if you really want to get something done."
◦Meaning: "If you want something, everything is allowed."
◦English equivalent: "The end justifies the means."

Even another one more to the point:

"It is not what men do that causes them harm, but what they don't do, or cannot do", Matsùwa, Huichol Shaman.

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

It's part of life that some people resent success, in whatever form.
There's a nice saying in Dutch: "Hoge bomen vangen veel wind" (tall trees catch a lot of wind).
One quickly learns to ignore the haters...

Ignoring the haters won't change some certain facts related to you and your chess engine.......
Dr.D

There is another saying in Flemish (Belgian Dutch)
"Het doel heiligt de middelen." ◦Literal translation: "The purpose sanctifies the means."
◦Meaning: "Anything goes if you really want to get something done."
◦Meaning: "If you want something, everything is allowed."
◦English equivalent: "The end justifies the means."

Yep,for certain kind of people it's a way of living......
Dr.D

[ZirconiumX]

Seems to be that whoever is top dog is always going to be the subject of derision/hate/criticism, etc from many quarters. History repeating.
In NZ, we call it the tall poppy syndrome.

I do not see it with Don, Larry, Richard Vida and Stockfish team. Why??

They're not top dog.

Did you mean: They did not copied any other program?

No - he didn't.

Stockfish came from Glaurung.
Komodo came from Doch. (Yes, I know - Doch was Don's program)
Critter contais the PSTs of Ippolit.

Matthew:out

[Mike S.]

One quickly learns to ignore the haters...

You are a wise man, and as far as I can tell, you conduct your proceedures immaculate. Congratulations for the Houdini 3 release at ChessBase.

P.S. As for too nasty critics, we use a saying in Austria: "I don't even ignore them!" (Ned amoi ignorirn.)