The Duras

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Re: The Duras

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Masterbaiter wrote:Ra8
[pgn]1. e4 f5 2. exf5 Nf6 3. Be2 d6 4. Bh5+ Nxh5 5. Qxh5+ Kd7 6. Nf3 c6 7. Qg4 Kc7 8. Ng5 Qe8 9. Ne6+ Bxe6 10. fxe6 Na6 11. 0-0 Rc8 12. c4 g6 13. d4 Kb8 14. Nc3 Bg7 15. Be3 Nc7 16. Rac1 Rf8 17. Qe4 Rf5 18. g4 Rf6 19. d5 Rf8 20. Rfd1 h5 21. h3 Be5 22. Ne2 hxg4 23. hxg4 Rh8 24. Nf4 Bxf4 25. Qxf4 Rh4 26. Qg3 Qh8 27. Kg2 Qf6 28. g5 Qh8 29. dxc6 Qh5 30. Rh1 Rh8 31. Rxh4 Qxh4 32. Qxh4 Rxh4 33. cxb7 Nxe6 34. f4 Kxb7 35. Kg3 Rh7 36. Re1 Ng7 37. Bf2 Nf5+ 38. Kg2 a5 39. Re6 Rg7 40. c5 Kc6 41. cxd6 exd6 42. Kf3 Kd7 43. Rf6 Ne7 44. Be1 a4 45. Rf8 Rh7 46. Ra8 Rh3+[/pgn]
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Re: The Duras

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Kf2
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Re: The Duras

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Masterbaiter wrote:Kf2
[pgn]1. e4 f5 2. exf5 Nf6 3. Be2 d6 4. Bh5+ Nxh5 5. Qxh5+ Kd7 6. Nf3 c6 7. Qg4 Kc7 8. Ng5 Qe8 9. Ne6+ Bxe6 10. fxe6 Na6 11. 0-0 Rc8 12. c4 g6 13. d4 Kb8 14. Nc3 Bg7 15. Be3 Nc7 16. Rac1 Rf8 17. Qe4 Rf5 18. g4 Rf6 19. d5 Rf8 20. Rfd1 h5 21. h3 Be5 22. Ne2 hxg4 23. hxg4 Rh8 24. Nf4 Bxf4 25. Qxf4 Rh4 26. Qg3 Qh8 27. Kg2 Qf6 28. g5 Qh8 29. dxc6 Qh5 30. Rh1 Rh8 31. Rxh4 Qxh4 32. Qxh4 Rxh4 33. cxb7 Nxe6 34. f4 Kxb7 35. Kg3 Rh7 36. Re1 Ng7 37. Bf2 Nf5+ 38. Kg2 a5 39. Re6 Rg7 40. c5 Kc6 41. cxd6 exd6 42. Kf3 Kd7 43. Rf6 Ne7 44. Be1 a4 45. Rf8 Rh7 46. Ra8 Rh3+ 47. Kf2 Rh2+[/pgn]
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Re: The Duras

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Kf3 and if Rxb2 then Rxa4
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Re: The Duras

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Masterbaiter wrote:Kf3 and if Rxb2 then Rxa4
[pgn]1. e4 f5 2. exf5 Nf6 3. Be2 d6 4. Bh5+ Nxh5 5. Qxh5+ Kd7 6. Nf3 c6 7. Qg4 Kc7 8. Ng5 Qe8 9. Ne6+ Bxe6 10. fxe6 Na6 11. 0-0 Rc8 12. c4 g6 13. d4 Kb8 14. Nc3 Bg7 15. Be3 Nc7 16. Rac1 Rf8 17. Qe4 Rf5 18. g4 Rf6 19. d5 Rf8 20. Rfd1 h5 21. h3 Be5 22. Ne2 hxg4 23. hxg4 Rh8 24. Nf4 Bxf4 25. Qxf4 Rh4 26. Qg3 Qh8 27. Kg2 Qf6 28. g5 Qh8 29. dxc6 Qh5 30. Rh1 Rh8 31. Rxh4 Qxh4 32. Qxh4 Rxh4 33. cxb7 Nxe6 34. f4 Kxb7 35. Kg3 Rh7 36. Re1 Ng7 37. Bf2 Nf5+ 38. Kg2 a5 39. Re6 Rg7 40. c5 Kc6 41. cxd6 exd6 42. Kf3 Kd7 43. Rf6 Ne7 44. Be1 a4 45. Rf8 Rh7 46. Ra8 Rh3+ 47. Kf2 Rh2+ 48. Kf3 Rh3+[/pgn]
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Re: The Duras

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Do you really think this is chess? Human chess? It isn't.
When I see mostly machine moves, it is mostly if not entirely machine chess. This is not advanced chess, it's a charade, a farce.

So far I have given some time to study the critical positions, with my talent, no machine and each and every time I see draw, draw, draw and a likely if not forced draw in this game as well.

Why you failed to take the b-pawn is simple, you are going for repetition and if that fails you will likely take the b-pawn or try some other method to draw by getting your Rook to b1 and allow b3 to be played with still good drawing chances due to your Night position as it is able to create problems by going to f5 or d5 due to Whites exposed King and weak f-pawn. Your d6 pawn is a passer as well backed up by your King.

This game is a draw, too. White might find a way but your software is at least 2800 if not higher. Yeah, your computer is drawing. smh.
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Re: The Duras

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Terry McCracken wrote:Do you really think this is chess? Human chess? It isn't.
When I see mostly machine moves, it is mostly if not entirely machine chess. This is not advanced chess, it's a charade, a farce.

So far I have given some time to study the critical positions, with my talent, no machine and each and every time I see draw, draw, draw and a likely if not forced draw in this game as well.
I have to agree. It is nothing wrong with this though, but they should give informations about the hardware/software and perhaps cpu time used , then it would be a bit more interesting for several reasons.
BTW the draw margin in so called 'advanced chess' is >80% thus no wonder.
http://en.chessbase.com/post/correspond ... aw-problem
IMO it is not very advanced if the users just decide one or two times in the whole game between proposed moves of their software ;-)

P.S. A CCGM shouldn't be called correspondence chess grandmaster but computer chess grandmaster nowadays...
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Re: The Duras

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Ke2 ... I think I have a decent advantage. Enough to win? Perhaps
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Re: The Duras

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Guenther wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:Do you really think this is chess? Human chess? It isn't.
When I see mostly machine moves, it is mostly if not entirely machine chess. This is not advanced chess, it's a charade, a farce.

So far I have given some time to study the critical positions, with my talent, no machine and each and every time I see draw, draw, draw and a likely if not forced draw in this game as well.
I have to agree. It is nothing wrong with this though, but they should give informations about the hardware/software and perhaps cpu time used , then it would be a bit more interesting for several reasons.
BTW the draw margin in so called 'advanced chess' is >80% thus no wonder.
http://en.chessbase.com/post/correspond ... aw-problem
IMO it is not very advanced if the users just decide one or two times in the whole game between proposed moves of their software ;-)

P.S. A CCGM shouldn't be called correspondence chess grandmaster but computer chess grandmaster nowadays...
I agree, point taken.
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Re: The Duras

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Masterbaiter wrote:Ke2 ... I think I have a decent advantage. Enough to win? Perhaps
I hope you can but it looks very difficult to win, Black has a lot of play.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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