will the new Ipod Touch beeing able to run chess programs

[mclane]

IMO the new Ipod Touch looks interesting as a platform for chess programs.
especially since it is no mobile phone.



it has e.g. WLAN for Internet !!

looks like THE new I/O interface for doing computerchess IMO.

480 x 320 pixel

Mac OS X

299 Euro 8 GB or 399 Euro 16 GB looks also interesting for the hash of our chess programs.
has anbody an idea how fast the CPU in those devices Iphone/Ipod touch
is ??

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

I don't share your opinion,it won't have enough calculating power in my opinion....
Nice chick in the display though

[mclane]

which cpu is in it, how many mhz ?

isn't shredder as java engine running in iphone. how many NPS is shredder doing under iphone ?

[Mark]

which cpu is in it, how many mhz ?

isn't shredder as java engine running in iphone. how many NPS is shredder doing under iphone ?

I think the iPhone has a 620 Mhz Intel processor, which is fairly fast for a handheld device. (There are a lot of conflicting opinions about this, though.)

Shredder for the iPhone doesn't report nps, PV, or any other search data. It has three difficulty levels: hard, medium, and easy. It's a nice little program for playing a quick game on the iPhone, but it doesn't seem very strong to me. It's a web based application, so you cou can see what it looks like and test it out by going to http://www.shredderchess.com/iphone/

Mark

[mclane]

if the new Ipod Touch has also 600 mhz it would be kind of high-end PDA with cool design and MP3.

620 is enough for hiarcs to reach high-elo rates.

Shredder seems to run as java engine on the iphone, so i do not expect it to be a strong program. nothing serious for chess players.

anyway. who knows how fast the ipod touch is ?

[Wardy]

I'm not sure about the iPhone but Shredder Mobile on my Sony Ericsson W810i clocks a minimum of 1000 nps even from the start the position.

I'm sure the iPod Touch must have a lot more grunt then my W810i so it should be possible to get a decent level of play from it.

[nczempin]

I'm not sure about the iPhone but Shredder Mobile on my Sony Ericsson W810i clocks a minimum of 1000 nps even from the start the position.

I'm sure the iPod Touch must have a lot more grunt then my W810i so it should be possible to get a decent level of play from it.

wow, 1000 nps?

SCNR

[mclane]

if the engine is written for the CPU the NPS would be much higher.

e.g. on my 125 mhz palm genius is doing 17.000 NPS or arround this.

so 1000 is not really much. therefore one should make sure the engine is no java engine.

[nczempin]

if the engine is written for the CPU the NPS would be much higher.

e.g. on my 125 mhz palm genius is doing 17.000 NPS or arround this.

so 1000 is not really much. therefore one should make sure the engine is no java engine.

Perhaps I made a joke that is not really a joke.

I thought you were surely not talking about nps, but knps, weren't you?

Because my extremely unoptimized Java engine gets > 50.000 nps (50 knps) on a 1.76 P4 dual core mobile.

Oh, and perhaps you should try Flux 2.2, another Java engine. May be strong enough for most players, though perhaps not for Thorsten

[Wardy]

Agreed!

The chess engines on my PPC hit 40k nps or even more, however I was thinking about what the old dedicated units or even old software (Colossus 4 was about 150 nps on the Spectrum if I remember correctly)could achieve with similar levels of processing power to my phone.

Given the advances in programming techniques I would have thought that you could get the iTouch to play a half decent game with little trouble, certainly it won't worry a strong player but should be OK for the average club player.

All assuming that Apple actually open up the unit to developers and don't have it closed off like the iPhone.