how create a module UCI with engine Fritz ? only run on GUIF

Karmazen & Oliver · Post by **Karmazen & Oliver** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:44 am

somebody know is is posible create a module on interface UCI with engines fritz ?

permit with other engines but not with this...

I don´t like Fritz if I can not use on other interfaces GUI...

thanks you previus from spain.

Dann Corbit · Post by **Dann Corbit** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:00 am

Karmazen & Oliver wrote:somebody know is is posible create a module on interface UCI with engines fritz ?

permit with other engines but not with this...

I don´t like Fritz if I can not use on other interfaces GUI...

thanks you previus from spain.

You can insert UCI engines into the Fritz GUI, but you cannot use Fritz as a UCI engine. The ChessBase native engines are all like that. You can play against other engines via Auto232 adapter (assuming you have two machines and a null modem cable).

Using ChessAssistant, you can play just about anything (including Fritz engines using Auto232, assuming two machines are available).

ChessAssistant connects to:
* Genius 4/5
* Hiarcs 3/4/5/6/7
* MChess Pro 5/6/7
* Rebel 7/8/9/10
* MCS engines
* Winboard engines
* UCI engines
* Fritz engines via Auto232

The ChessBase engines are also no longer the strongest engines (actually Shredder had already displaced them before Rybka and Fruit came along, but Shredder was also available under ChessBase -- maybe it still is -- I am not sure.)

See:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_120_ ... liste.html
and also:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

Junior and Fritz still have a strong showing in this list:
http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm

I am anxiously awaiting the SSDF data with the new hardware.

Sylwy · Post by **Sylwy** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:41 am

Karmazen & Oliver wrote:somebody know is is posible create a module on interface UCI with engines fritz ?

permit with other engines but not with this...

I don´t like Fritz if I can not use on other interfaces GUI...

thanks you previus from spain.

Hi !

They are -in this world-three class of protocols used to regulate the relations between various engines & GUIs:

-WB (Winboard by T.Mann);
-UCI (Unified Chess Interface by S.Mayer-Kahlen & R.Huber);
-privates.

WB & UCI are public protocols.The compatibilities between these engines are solved by the Wb2Uci adapter (author-Odd Gunar Malin)-under Windows OS , or by Polyglot (F.Letouzey)-under Linux OS.........

CB is a private protocol.Nobody (

) knows how work this protocol to create a new adapter.

So sorry !
Sylwy

Karmazen & Oliver · Post by **Karmazen & Oliver** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:01 am

Dann Corbit wrote: The ChessBase engines are also no longer the strongest engines (actually Shredder had already displaced them before Rybka and Fruit came along, but Shredder was also available under ChessBase -- maybe it still is -- I am not sure.)

See:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_120_ ... liste.html
and also:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

Junior and Fritz still have a strong showing in this list:
http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm
I am anxiously awaiting the SSDF data with the new hardware.

OK. a lot of thanks for the info. I imagine somethin that... but

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_4_Ra ... liste.html

in that links you can see that fritz 11 is very stronger UP ¡, on fast games and single versions... I like a lot of single versions...

you say that Shredder is very very stronger. OK I thinking about that, because I can use that ENGINE on a lot of GUIs, ChessAsisstan, ARENA chess, etc..

I am not sure, but I remember that Shredder have options to use only one CPU core.. ( I need the other for other things...

)

bye. ( the engines are very expensives to have not portability... Shredder can buy on chessbase, I think that the give us a GUI, but the *.exe to do a UCI are in the DVD too, I hope that ¡ )

bye from Spain. Oliver.

Karmazen & Oliver · Post by **Karmazen & Oliver** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:03 am

Sylwy wrote: CB is a private protocol.Nobody ( ) knows how work this protocol to create a new adapter.
So sorry !
Sylwy

BAD for chessbase fritz engines, good for UCI engines support in other GUIñs similar ChessAssistan, ARENA...

thanks

Dann Corbit · Post by **Dann Corbit** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:19 am

Karmazen & Oliver wrote:
Dann Corbit wrote: The ChessBase engines are also no longer the strongest engines (actually Shredder had already displaced them before Rybka and Fruit came along, but Shredder was also available under ChessBase -- maybe it still is -- I am not sure.)

See:
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_120_ ... liste.html
and also:
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

Junior and Fritz still have a strong showing in this list:
http://ssdf.bosjo.net/list.htm
I am anxiously awaiting the SSDF data with the new hardware.
OK. a lot of thanks for the info. I imagine somethin that... but

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_40%2 ... liste.html

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_4_Ra ... liste.html

in that links you can see that fritz 11 is very stronger UP ¡, on fast games and single versions... I like a lot of single versions...

you say that Shredder is very very stronger. OK I thinking about that, because I can use that ENGINE on a lot of GUIs, ChessAsisstan, ARENA chess, etc..

I am not sure, but I remember that Shredder have options to use only one CPU core.. ( I need the other for other things... )

bye. ( the engines are very expensives to have not portability... Shredder can buy on chessbase, I think that the give us a GUI, but the *.exe to do a UCI are in the DVD too, I hope that ¡ )

bye from Spain. Oliver.

It seems very clear that Rybka 2.3.2a is the strongest engine on a single CPU right now, though some others are close.

For multiple CPUs, Zappa is close to Rybka.

I do not think that the full exploration of Fritz 11 has been made to know for sure just how strong it is, but the early results seem to be "It is very strong."

The nice thing about these strong chess engines:
Rybka
Zappa (AKA Zap!chess)
Shredder

is that they use well known and published APIs.

If you have a more proprietary engine, the simplest thing to do is usually to import the other engines into the proprietary interface. For some kinds of things it is disappointing, but often it is good enough for practical purposes for most of the things you want to do with chess engines.

I think that the incredible success of the new engines with portable interfaces may put pressure on ChessBase to either adapt to a new and portable interface or at least publish the ChessBase interface. On the other hand, the ChessBase people do not seem very responsive to suggestions. I have made requests of the ChessBase group to perform EPD output on many occasions over the last decade and they do not listen to it. So I vote with my wallet. Although I own an older copy of every ChessBase engine ever made, I do not think I will ever update unless they start to listen to user requests.

Mike S. · Post by **Mike S.** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:58 am

Recent Chessbase Shredders do NOT contain a UCI engine.

If you want Shredder UCI: http://www.shredderchess.com/

Sylwy · Post by **Sylwy** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:21 am

Karmazen & Oliver wrote:
Sylwy wrote: CB is a private protocol.Nobody ( ) knows how work this protocol to create a new adapter.
So sorry !
Sylwy
BAD for chessbase fritz engines, good for UCI engines support in other GUIñs similar ChessAssistan, ARENA...

thanks

You are right, but.............Fritz GUI is the best ! What can we do ?

Sylwy

Karmazen & Oliver · Post by **Karmazen & Oliver** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:54 pm

Mike S. wrote:Recent Chessbase Shredders do NOT contain a UCI engine.

If you want Shredder UCI: http://www.shredderchess.com/

ohhh ¡ thank you for the warning, I will look in the other web, possibly choose the version Deep, if it is possible to create an engine ICU that alone one of the two CORES uses...

bye

edit: ok... I see :

http://www.shredderchess.com/chess-prog ... 1-uci.html

Deep Shredder 11 UCI is the best Shredder for Windows computers with multiple processors or the new dual core processor. Deep Shredder 11 UCI works also fine on computers with one processor and one core, but cannot develop his full power there and is comparable to Shredder 11 UCI on those machines.
You will also get the latest version of the Shredder user interface and a 64 bit Deep Shredder 11 engine for Windows x64. This is the best Shredder for such 64 bit systems, no matter how many processors you have.

Deep Shredder 11 UCI runs on all Windows PCs

with at least Windows 2000 including Windows Vista.

the other questions is if ONE core CPU is good level too.. I think that yes...

Karmazen & Oliver · Post by **Karmazen & Oliver** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:58 pm

Sylwy wrote:
Karmazen & Oliver wrote:
Sylwy wrote: CB is a private protocol.Nobody ( ) knows how work this protocol to create a new adapter.
So sorry !
Sylwy
BAD for chessbase fritz engines, good for UCI engines support in other GUIñs similar ChessAssistan, ARENA...

thanks

You are right, but.............Fritz GUI is the best ! What can we do ?

Sylwy

OK, I have previus versions of Gui Fritz,... we can use the previus versions, with other UCI engines..., and don´t buy the new not UCI fritz...

in these time, in this year 2007 ¡?, I can not understand HOW is posible that chessbase, ( that it is not also the engine more stronger ), don´t have UCI options... for HIS engines

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