Father vrs Deep Sjeng 3.0: 15+5 ANTI-CHESS 2008 ENJOY

[Father]

Father vrs Deep Sjeng 3.0: 15+5 ANTI-CHESS 2008
Deep Sjeng 3.0: 25.6 ply;
6.735kN/s
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 3600MHz,
(4 threads)



There are some questions here, for Human Beings Chess Players and their Engines.
First of all: Was the draw, that selected Depp Sjeng 3.0. over a Quad close to 7.000 Kilonodes per second a correct desition ?


I wonder by myself; about the question I have made, and have my own opinion .... I would like to listening to the experts.

With best respect,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo


ENJOY


[D]r7/8/1r2k3/3pPp2/1NpP1Pp1/P1P3Pp/KB5P/8 w - - 0 268

[D]8/1r6/r3k3/3pPp2/1PpP1Pp1/P1P3Pp/2N4P/1KB5 b - - 0 252

[D]2r5/1r6/4k3/3pPp2/pPpP1Pp1/2P3Pp/KPNB3P/8 w - - 0 181

[Event "Rated game, 10m + 5s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2008.07.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Christian Gorals"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A03"]
[WhiteElo "2042"]
[BlackElo "2681"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "534"]
[EventDate "2008.07.20"]
[BlackTeam "Deep Sjeng 3.0: 25.6 ply; 6.735kN/s Intel(R) "]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

1. d4 {2} Nf6 {B/0 0} 2. c3 {2} g6 {B/0 0} 3. f4 {3} Bg7 {B/0 0} 4. e3 {1} O-O
{B/0 0} 5. Nf3 {1} d5 {B/0 0} 6. Bd3 {2} c5 {-0.38/16 24} 7. O-O {(b3) 2} b6 {
B/0 0} 8. Re1 {2} Ba6 {-0.18/16 20} 9. Bxa6 {5} Nxa6 {6} 10. Qd3 {
(Nbd2) -0.15/16 0} Nb8 {-0.07/18 32} 11. g3 {(b3) 94} Ne4 {-0.33/17 16} 12.
Nbd2 {1} f5 {-0.28/18 14} 13. Nf1 {(b4) 2} Nd7 {-0.58/16 22} 14. Re2 {(N1d2) 2}
c4 {-0.70/17 26} 15. Qc2 {(Qd1) 2} a5 {-0.68/18 88} 16. Bd2 {(Ng5) 3} a4 {
-0.78/17 12} 17. a3 {(Be1) 2} e6 {-0.76/18 41} 18. Rg2 {(Be1) 1} Ndf6 {
-0.77/17 15} 19. Re1 {(Be1) 1} Qe8 {-0.86/17 76} 20. Bc1 {. 362} Ra7 {
-0.85/23 0} 21. Ree2 {(N1d2) 1} h6 {-0.90/17 9} 22. Bd2 {(h3) 2} g5 {
-1.28/17 13} 23. Be1 {(h3) 3} Qh5 {-1.47/18 10} 24. N1d2 {26} Qh3 {-1.50/18 0}
25. Nf1 {(Kh1) 10} g4 {-1.71/19 13} 26. N3d2 {(Ne5) 10} Nd6 {-2.20/20 11} 27.
Nb1 {(Kh1) 1} Nfe4 {-2.16/18 27} 28. Qd1 {(Nfd2) 4} Kh7 {-2.08/19 53} 29. Rc2 {
(Kh1) 0} h5 {-2.08/16 15} 30. Qe2 {(Kh1) 1} Nb5 {-1.89/15 7} 31. Kh1 {(Nfd2) 3}
Ned6 {-1.53/15 7} 32. Rg1 {1} Bf6 {-1.37/16 6} 33. Qg2 {1} Qxg2+ {-1.35/17 3}
34. Rgxg2 {(Kxg2) 1} Rc7 {-1.42/17 14} 35. Kg1 {(h3) 1} Na7 {-1.42/17 7} 36.
Rce2 {(h3) 1} Nc6 {-1.40/17 8} 37. Kh1 {(h3) 3} Kg6 {-1.61/17 6} 38. Kg1 {
(Rc2) 1} Ra8 {-1.42/17 13} 39. Kh1 {(h3) 5} Rh7 {-1.43/16 12} 40. Kg1 {(h3) 0}
h4 {-1.60/17 19} 41. Bd2 {(gxh4) 4} h3 {-2.81/19 5} 42. Rgf2 {1} Ne4 {
-2.81/20 2} 43. Bc1 {(Re1) 1} Nxf2 {6} 44. Kxf2 {-2.81/19 0} Rf8 {-2.81/20 4}
45. Ke1 {(Rc2) 0} Na7 {-2.78/20 9} 46. Kd1 {(Rc2) 1} Nc8 {-2.76/20 5} 47. Rc2 {
(Bd2) 0} Kf7 {-2.80/24 4} 48. Ke2 {(Bd2) 0} Nd6 {-2.80/25 6} 49. Ke1 {(Bd2) 1}
Ra8 {-2.80/21 5} 50. Ke2 {(Bd2) 0} Ke8 {-2.80/23 5} 51. Rd2 {(Bd2) 1} Kd7 {
-2.81/21 7} 52. Kf2 {(Rc2) 0} Ne4+ {7} 53. Ke2 {-3.86/21 0} Nxd2 {2} 54. Kxd2 {
(Bxd2) -3.87/22 0} Kd6 {-3.86/24 5} 55. Kc2 {(Ke2) 0} Rd7 {-3.86/27 6} 56. Bd2
{0} Rc8 {-3.86/26 2} 57. Bc1 {(Kd1) 1} b5 {-3.86/28 6} 58. Bd2 {1} Rf8 {
-3.86/27 2} 59. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Kc6 {-3.86/26 5} 60. Bd2 {1} Ra8 {-3.86/26 1} 61.
Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 8} 62. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {-3.86/27 4} 63. Bc1 {(Be1) 0}
Re8 {-3.86/27 5} 64. Bd2 {0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 3} 65. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Rc8 {-3.86/28 5
} 66. Bd2 {0} Rcd8 {-3.86/27 2} 67. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Rh8 {-3.86/27 7} 68. Bd2 {0}
Rg8 {-3.86/27 3} 69. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rf7 {-3.86/27 6} 70. Bd2 {0} Kd6 {-3.86/27 2
} 71. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Ra8 {-3.86/27 5} 72. Bd2 {0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 4} 73. Bc1 {
(Be1) 1} Rc8 {-3.86/28 8} 74. Bd2 {0} Ra8 {-3.86/28 5} 75. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {
-3.86/26 3} 76. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {-3.86/27 2} 77. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Ra7 {-3.86/28 5} 78.
Bd2 {0} Rca8 {-3.86/28 4} 79. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {-3.86/28 8} 80. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {
-3.86/27 2} 81. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Re8 {-3.86/26 5} 82. Bd2 {(Nbd2) 0} Rd7 {
-3.86/28 6} 83. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Ra8 {-3.86/27 3} 84. Bd2 {(Kd2) 1} Rh7 {
-3.86/28 3} 85. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/27 7} 86. Bd2 {1} Rd8 {-3.86/27 4} 87.
Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rc8 {-3.86/27 6} 88. Bd2 {(Kd2) 1} Rf8 {-3.86/28 6} 89. Bc1 {
(Kd1) 1} Rc7 {-3.86/28 5} 90. Bd2 {1} Rb7 {-3.86/28 2} 91. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Ra8 {
-3.86/28 5} 92. Bd2 {1} Rd7 {-3.86/27 2} 93. Bc1 {(Kd1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/29 10}
94. Bd2 {1} Rbd8 {-3.86/28 1} 95. Kc1 {(Be1) 2} Rf8 {-3.86/28 7} 96. Kc2 {
(Kd1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/27 4} 97. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Rg8 {-3.86/29 11} 98. Kc2 {(Kd1) 0}
Rh8 {-3.86/28 6} 99. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Re8 {-3.86/27 12} 100. Kc2 {(Kd1) 1} Rg8 {
-3.86/29 6} 101. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Kc6 {-3.86/28 4} 102. Kc2 {1} Rf7 {-3.86/27 2}
103. Kc1 {(Be1) 1} Kd6 {-3.86/20 7} 104. Kc2 {1} Rgf8 {-3.86/23 0} 105. Kc1 {
(Be1) 1} Rb7 {-3.46/26 69} 106. Kc2 {(Be1) 3} b4 {-2.52/24 43} 107. axb4 {
(cxb4) 22} Rfb8 {-3.11/19 2} 108. Na3 {(Kd1) 2} Bd8 {-3.10/21 2} 109. Kd1 {
(Kc1) 8} Kc6 {-3.08/19 2} 110. Kc2 {(Nc2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/23 5} 111. Be1 {(Kd1) 1
} Rc8 {-3.08/21 3} 112. Nd2 {3} Rh8 {-3.08/20 0} 113. Ndb1 {(Kd1) 2} Ra8 {
-3.08/22 2} 114. Kd2 {4} Rab8 {-3.08/24 0} 115. Nc2 {(Kd1) 6} Bd8 {-3.08/21 3}
116. Nba3 {(Ke2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/24 4} 117. Ke2 {1} Bd6 {-3.08/20 0} 118. Kd1 {
(Bd2) 2} Rb6 {-3.08/23 4} 119. Ke2 {2} Kc7 {-3.08/21 0} 120. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7
{-3.08/25 5} 121. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {-3.08/22 1} 122. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Kd7 {-3.08/25 5}
123. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} R6b7 {-3.08/23 2} 124. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Bg7 {-3.08/22 5} 125.
Ke2 {1} Rb6 {-3.08/20 1} 126. Kd1 {(b5) 2} Kc6 {-3.08/22 3} 127. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {
-3.08/21 0} 128. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/22 1} 129. Ke2 {2} Kb7 {-3.08/22 0}
130. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Rg8 {-3.08/24 4} 131. Ke2 {1} Kc6 {-3.08/24 1} 132. Kd1 {
(Na1) 1} Kd6 {-3.08/25 6} 133. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/24 7} 134. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1
} Rb7 {-3.08/23 4} 135. Ke2 {(Bf2) 1} Rc8 {-3.08/23 4} 136. Kd1 {(Bf2) 0} Rcb8
{-3.08/26 7} 137. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/24 2} 138. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Bd8 {
-3.08/24 2} 139. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {-3.08/25 2} 140. Kd1 {(Bf2) 1} Bg7 {-3.08/22 4}
141. Ke2 {1} Kc7 {-3.08/24 2} 142. Kd1 {(Kd2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/26 5} 143. Ke2 {1}
Kb6 {-3.08/23 1} 144. Kd1 {(Kd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/26 7} 145. Ke2 {1} Kc7 {
-3.08/25 3} 146. Kd1 {(Bd2) 0} Bd6 {-3.08/25 6} 147. Ke2 {(Bd2) 2} Kd7 {
-3.08/25 8} 148. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/26 5} 149. Ke2 {1} Rb6 {-3.08/24 0}
150. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Rc8 {-3.08/21 39} 151. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Rg8 {-2.30/21 11} 152.
Kd1 {(Nb1) 2} Rgb8 {-2.32/23 29} 153. Ke2 {(Nb1) 1} R6b7 {-3.08/22 10} 154. Kd1
{(Bd2) 1} Bd6 {-2.68/25 34} 155. Ke2 {1} Bc7 {-0.88/18 0} 156. Kd1 {(Bd2) 3} e5
{-0.91/19 2} 157. dxe5 {2} Bb6 {-0.91/18 0} 158. Ke2 {(Nb5) 1} Rd8 {-0.85/16 2}
159. Bf2 {(Nb5) 3} Ke7 {-0.69/18 3} 160. Bg1 {(Nb5) 1} Ba7 {-1.02/19 2} 161.
Bf2 {0} Rdd7 {-1.07/17 0} 162. Be1 {(e4) 7} Rb8 {-0.85/18 3} 163. Nd4 {(Bf2) 4}
Bxd4 {-1.60/23 3} 164. exd4 {1} Rdb7 {-1.60/25 0} 165. Kd1 {(Nc2) 3} Re8 {
-1.31/23 3} 166. Kc2 {(Nc2) 0} Rd8 {-1.31/25 3} 167. Bd2 {(Kb1) 0} Rdb8 {
-1.31/26 4} 168. Be1 {(Kb1) 1} Ke6 {-1.31/27 3} 169. Bd2 {0} Rd8 {-1.31/25 1}
170. Be1 {(Kb1) 1} Ra8 {-1.31/26 1} 171. Bd2 {0} Rab8 {-1.31/26 1} 172. Be1 {1}
Rb6 {-1.31/27 0} 173. Bd2 {0} Ke7 {-1.31/26 2} 174. Be1 {(Kd1) 1} Ra8 {
-1.31/26 3} 175. Bd2 {(Kd1) 0} Re8 {-1.31/25 2} 176. Be1 {(Kc1) 1} Reb8 {
-1.31/26 5} 177. Bd2 {0} Rd8 {-1.31/26 1} 178. Kb1 {(Kd1) 3} Rc8 {-1.31/27 5}
179. Ka2 {1} Ke6 {-1.31/26 1} 180. Nc2 {1} Rb7 {-1.31/24 2} 181. Ka3 {(Ne3) 1}
Re8 {-1.31/26 3} 182. Bc1 {(Ka2) 3} Reb8 {-1.31/27 9} 183. Bd2 {(Ka2) 1} Rb5 {
-1.31/25 3} 184. Ka2 {(Ne3) 2} R5b6 {-1.31/28 4} 185. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Re8 {
-1.31/27 4} 186. Ka2 {(Na3) 0} Rd8 {-1.31/28 4} 187. Ka1 {(Ka3) 0} Rdb8 {
-1.31/25 2} 188. Ka2 {0} R8b7 {-1.31/28 2} 189. Ka1 {(Kb1) 0} Ra6 {-1.31/28 5}
190. Ka2 {1} Rb8 {-1.31/26 1} 191. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Re8 {-1.31/28 5} 192. Ka2 {0}
Rb6 {-1.31/24 1} 193. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Ra8 {-1.31/29 10} 194. Ka2 {(Kb1) 1} Ra7 {
-1.31/27 4} 195. Ka1 {(Ka3) 0} Rab7 {-1.31/26 4} 196. Ka2 {1} Ra6 {-1.31/26 0}
197. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Raa7 {-1.31/27 2} 198. Ka2 {0} Rb5 {-1.31/26 1} 199. Ka1 {
(Ne3) 1} Rb6 {-1.31/26 4} 200. Ka2 {1} Rc6 {-1.31/26 0} 201. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Ra8
{-1.31/28 5} 202. Ka2 {1} Rb6 {-1.31/28 1} 203. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Rf8 {-1.31/28 9}
204. Ka2 {1} Rg8 {-1.31/26 0} 205. Ka1 {(Ka3) 2} Rbb8 {-1.31/27 8} 206. Ka2 {1}
Rg7 {-1.31/25 1} 207. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Re8 {-1.31/26 11} 208. Ka2 {(Kb1) 2} Rc7 {
-1.31/23 11} 209. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Rb8 {-1.31/24 5} 210. Ka2 {1} Ra7 {-1.31/22 2}
211. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Rb5 {-0.49/22 17} 212. Ka2 {(Kb1) 2} Rbb7 {-0.49/25 5} 213.
Ka1 {(Bc1) 2} a3 {-0.49/26 6} 214. bxa3 {2} Rb8 {-0.49/26 0} 215. Ka2 {(Kb2) 3}
Rba8 {-0.49/27 4} 216. Kb2 {4} Ra6 {-0.49/27 0} 217. Bc1 {(Ka2) 4} Kd7 {
-0.49/25 7} 218. Kb1 {(Ka2) 3} Rb6 {-0.49/24 5} 219. Ka2 {(Ne3) 5} Ke6 {
-0.49/28 7} 220. Kb2 {(Bd2) 4} Rbb8 {-0.49/24 2} 221. Kb1 {(Ne3) 3} Ra7 {
-0.49/29 11} 222. Kb2 {(Ka1) 1} Re8 {-0.49/26 4} 223. Kb1 {(Ne3) 1} Rea8 {
-0.49/30 10} 224. Kb2 {(Ka2) 3} Rb8 {-0.49/27 6} 225. Kb1 {(Bd2) 1} Rab7 {
-0.49/26 2} 226. Ka2 {(Ne3) 21} Ra8 {-0.49/29 10} 227. Kb1 {(Bd2) 2} Rc7 {
-0.49/29 6} 228. Ka2 {(Ne3) 3} Re7 {-0.49/28 7} 229. Kb1 {(Kb2) 174} Ree8 {
-0.49/29 7} 230. Ka2 {(Kb2) 7} Ra4 {-0.49/29 6} 231. Kb1 {8} Rea8 {-0.49/27 0}
232. Kb2 {(Ne3) 3} Rb8 {-0.49/28 3} 233. Kb1 {(Ne3) 12} Ra6 {-0.49/30 5} 234.
Kb2 {4} Rba8 {-0.49/29 8} 235. Kb1 {4} Rc8 {-0.49/28 0} 236. Kb2 {(Ne3) 9} Rb8
{-0.49/28 1} 237. Kb1 {(Ne3) 4} Ra4 {-0.49/29 9} 238. Kb2 {(Ne3) 2} Rba8 {
-0.49/29 6} 239. Kb1 {(Ka2) 2} R8a7 {-0.49/29 4} 240. Kb2 {(Ne3) 1} Rb7 {
-0.49/29 5} 241. Ka2 {(Ne3) 4} Re7 {-0.49/29 10} 242. Kb2 {(Ne3) 3} Rea7 {
-0.49/28 1} 243. Ka2 {(Bd2) 1} R7a6 {-0.49/25 4} 244. Kb2 {(Kb1) 1} Rb6 {
-0.49/26 2} 245. Ka2 {(Ne3) 2} Ra7 {-0.49/27 2} 246. Kb2 {(Ne3) 4} Ra8 {
-0.49/29 4} 247. Ka2 {(Bd2) 0} Raa6 {-0.49/29 5} 248. Kb2 {(Kb1) 0} Ra7 {
-0.49/29 10} 249. Ka2 {(Ne3) 1} Rbb7 {-0.49/27 6} 250. Kb1 {2} Ra8 {-0.49/27 0}
251. Ka2 {(Kb2) 1} Ra6 {-0.49/28 4} 252. Kb1 {(Ne3) 2} Rba7 {-0.49/25 3} 253.
Ka2 {(Bd2) 3} Re7 {-0.49/28 3} 254. Kb1 {(Bd2) 4} Rb7 {-0.49/28 8} 255. Ka2 {
(Ne3) 2} Rba7 {-0.49/31 5} 256. Kb2 {(Kb1) 2} Ra8 {-0.55/26 3} 257. Kb1 {
(Ka2) 1} Rb6 {-0.52/26 5} 258. Ka2 {(Ne3) 9} Rc6 {-0.53/26 6} 259. b5 {
(Ne3) 116} Rb6 {-1.88/28 6} 260. Nb4 {(Kb2) 2} Rxb5 {-1.84/27 4} 261. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 0} Rbb8 {-1.78/27 5} 262. Bc1 {(Kb1) 7} Rb5 {-1.83/28 6} 263. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 1} Rb6 {-1.78/27 6} 264. Bc1 {(Kb1) 3} Rb7 {-1.85/27 10} 265. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 6} Rb6 {-1.83/27 5} 266. Bc1 {(Kb1) 3} Rb7 {-1.85/28 3} 267. Bb2 {(Kb2) 1
} Rb6 {(Lag: Av=0.48s, max=4.2s) -1.83/28 5} 1/2-1/2

[terminator]

Once you have finished what you are doing, can you play some chess pliz as its a bit of a bore? *yawn* I have a friend who is rated 1500 who is ready to teach you a lesson.

[Father]

nice nice..... Then looks that engines does not have more than 1.500 Elo rating....

[Nimzovik]

YAH!!!!!!!!!!!! Tweak the tail of the TIGER!!!!!!! We humans will NOT go gently into the night! THE programs are BUFOONS when it comes to this kind of chess..... The issue MUST be addressed!!! I repeat here with all decorum...... NEENER NEEENER NEEEEEEEENER! Until THAT time I will not accept the bloated ratings of computers....

[Mike S.]

I have a friend who is rated 1500 who is ready to teach you a lesson.

Pablo's human ratings at Playchess: 2042 (blitz) and 2003 (bullet).

[skoony]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....ack,ack,ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
regards
mike

[Dr.Wael Deeb]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....ack,ack,ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
regards
mike

[bob]

Father vrs Deep Sjeng 3.0: 15+5 ANTI-CHESS 2008
Deep Sjeng 3.0: 25.6 ply;
6.735kN/s
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz 3600MHz,
(4 threads)



There are some questions here, for Human Beings Chess Players and their Engines.
First of all: Was the draw, that selected Depp Sjeng 3.0. over a Quad close to 7.000 Kilonodes per second a correct desition ?


I wonder by myself; about the question I have made, and have my own opinion .... I would like to listening to the experts.

With best respect,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo


ENJOY


[D]r7/8/1r2k3/3pPp2/1NpP1Pp1/P1P3Pp/KB5P/8 w - - 0 268

[D]8/1r6/r3k3/3pPp2/1PpP1Pp1/P1P3Pp/2N4P/1KB5 b - - 0 252

[D]2r5/1r6/4k3/3pPp2/pPpP1Pp1/2P3Pp/KPNB3P/8 w - - 0 181

[Event "Rated game, 10m + 5s"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2008.07.20"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Father"]
[Black "Christian Gorals"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A03"]
[WhiteElo "2042"]
[BlackElo "2681"]
[Annotator "RESTREPO,PABLO"]
[PlyCount "534"]
[EventDate "2008.07.20"]
[BlackTeam "Deep Sjeng 3.0: 25.6 ply; 6.735kN/s Intel(R) "]
[TimeControl "600+5"]

1. d4 {2} Nf6 {B/0 0} 2. c3 {2} g6 {B/0 0} 3. f4 {3} Bg7 {B/0 0} 4. e3 {1} O-O
{B/0 0} 5. Nf3 {1} d5 {B/0 0} 6. Bd3 {2} c5 {-0.38/16 24} 7. O-O {(b3) 2} b6 {
B/0 0} 8. Re1 {2} Ba6 {-0.18/16 20} 9. Bxa6 {5} Nxa6 {6} 10. Qd3 {
(Nbd2) -0.15/16 0} Nb8 {-0.07/18 32} 11. g3 {(b3) 94} Ne4 {-0.33/17 16} 12.
Nbd2 {1} f5 {-0.28/18 14} 13. Nf1 {(b4) 2} Nd7 {-0.58/16 22} 14. Re2 {(N1d2) 2}
c4 {-0.70/17 26} 15. Qc2 {(Qd1) 2} a5 {-0.68/18 88} 16. Bd2 {(Ng5) 3} a4 {
-0.78/17 12} 17. a3 {(Be1) 2} e6 {-0.76/18 41} 18. Rg2 {(Be1) 1} Ndf6 {
-0.77/17 15} 19. Re1 {(Be1) 1} Qe8 {-0.86/17 76} 20. Bc1 {. 362} Ra7 {
-0.85/23 0} 21. Ree2 {(N1d2) 1} h6 {-0.90/17 9} 22. Bd2 {(h3) 2} g5 {
-1.28/17 13} 23. Be1 {(h3) 3} Qh5 {-1.47/18 10} 24. N1d2 {26} Qh3 {-1.50/18 0}
25. Nf1 {(Kh1) 10} g4 {-1.71/19 13} 26. N3d2 {(Ne5) 10} Nd6 {-2.20/20 11} 27.
Nb1 {(Kh1) 1} Nfe4 {-2.16/18 27} 28. Qd1 {(Nfd2) 4} Kh7 {-2.08/19 53} 29. Rc2 {
(Kh1) 0} h5 {-2.08/16 15} 30. Qe2 {(Kh1) 1} Nb5 {-1.89/15 7} 31. Kh1 {(Nfd2) 3}
Ned6 {-1.53/15 7} 32. Rg1 {1} Bf6 {-1.37/16 6} 33. Qg2 {1} Qxg2+ {-1.35/17 3}
34. Rgxg2 {(Kxg2) 1} Rc7 {-1.42/17 14} 35. Kg1 {(h3) 1} Na7 {-1.42/17 7} 36.
Rce2 {(h3) 1} Nc6 {-1.40/17 8} 37. Kh1 {(h3) 3} Kg6 {-1.61/17 6} 38. Kg1 {
(Rc2) 1} Ra8 {-1.42/17 13} 39. Kh1 {(h3) 5} Rh7 {-1.43/16 12} 40. Kg1 {(h3) 0}
h4 {-1.60/17 19} 41. Bd2 {(gxh4) 4} h3 {-2.81/19 5} 42. Rgf2 {1} Ne4 {
-2.81/20 2} 43. Bc1 {(Re1) 1} Nxf2 {6} 44. Kxf2 {-2.81/19 0} Rf8 {-2.81/20 4}
45. Ke1 {(Rc2) 0} Na7 {-2.78/20 9} 46. Kd1 {(Rc2) 1} Nc8 {-2.76/20 5} 47. Rc2 {
(Bd2) 0} Kf7 {-2.80/24 4} 48. Ke2 {(Bd2) 0} Nd6 {-2.80/25 6} 49. Ke1 {(Bd2) 1}
Ra8 {-2.80/21 5} 50. Ke2 {(Bd2) 0} Ke8 {-2.80/23 5} 51. Rd2 {(Bd2) 1} Kd7 {
-2.81/21 7} 52. Kf2 {(Rc2) 0} Ne4+ {7} 53. Ke2 {-3.86/21 0} Nxd2 {2} 54. Kxd2 {
(Bxd2) -3.87/22 0} Kd6 {-3.86/24 5} 55. Kc2 {(Ke2) 0} Rd7 {-3.86/27 6} 56. Bd2
{0} Rc8 {-3.86/26 2} 57. Bc1 {(Kd1) 1} b5 {-3.86/28 6} 58. Bd2 {1} Rf8 {
-3.86/27 2} 59. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Kc6 {-3.86/26 5} 60. Bd2 {1} Ra8 {-3.86/26 1} 61.
Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 8} 62. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {-3.86/27 4} 63. Bc1 {(Be1) 0}
Re8 {-3.86/27 5} 64. Bd2 {0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 3} 65. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Rc8 {-3.86/28 5
} 66. Bd2 {0} Rcd8 {-3.86/27 2} 67. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Rh8 {-3.86/27 7} 68. Bd2 {0}
Rg8 {-3.86/27 3} 69. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rf7 {-3.86/27 6} 70. Bd2 {0} Kd6 {-3.86/27 2
} 71. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Ra8 {-3.86/27 5} 72. Bd2 {0} Rb8 {-3.86/27 4} 73. Bc1 {
(Be1) 1} Rc8 {-3.86/28 8} 74. Bd2 {0} Ra8 {-3.86/28 5} 75. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {
-3.86/26 3} 76. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {-3.86/27 2} 77. Bc1 {(Be1) 0} Ra7 {-3.86/28 5} 78.
Bd2 {0} Rca8 {-3.86/28 4} 79. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Rb8 {-3.86/28 8} 80. Bd2 {0} Rc8 {
-3.86/27 2} 81. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Re8 {-3.86/26 5} 82. Bd2 {(Nbd2) 0} Rd7 {
-3.86/28 6} 83. Bc1 {(Kd1) 0} Ra8 {-3.86/27 3} 84. Bd2 {(Kd2) 1} Rh7 {
-3.86/28 3} 85. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/27 7} 86. Bd2 {1} Rd8 {-3.86/27 4} 87.
Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Rc8 {-3.86/27 6} 88. Bd2 {(Kd2) 1} Rf8 {-3.86/28 6} 89. Bc1 {
(Kd1) 1} Rc7 {-3.86/28 5} 90. Bd2 {1} Rb7 {-3.86/28 2} 91. Bc1 {(Be1) 1} Ra8 {
-3.86/28 5} 92. Bd2 {1} Rd7 {-3.86/27 2} 93. Bc1 {(Kd1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/29 10}
94. Bd2 {1} Rbd8 {-3.86/28 1} 95. Kc1 {(Be1) 2} Rf8 {-3.86/28 7} 96. Kc2 {
(Kd1) 1} Rb8 {-3.86/27 4} 97. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Rg8 {-3.86/29 11} 98. Kc2 {(Kd1) 0}
Rh8 {-3.86/28 6} 99. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Re8 {-3.86/27 12} 100. Kc2 {(Kd1) 1} Rg8 {
-3.86/29 6} 101. Kc1 {(Kd1) 1} Kc6 {-3.86/28 4} 102. Kc2 {1} Rf7 {-3.86/27 2}
103. Kc1 {(Be1) 1} Kd6 {-3.86/20 7} 104. Kc2 {1} Rgf8 {-3.86/23 0} 105. Kc1 {
(Be1) 1} Rb7 {-3.46/26 69} 106. Kc2 {(Be1) 3} b4 {-2.52/24 43} 107. axb4 {
(cxb4) 22} Rfb8 {-3.11/19 2} 108. Na3 {(Kd1) 2} Bd8 {-3.10/21 2} 109. Kd1 {
(Kc1) 8} Kc6 {-3.08/19 2} 110. Kc2 {(Nc2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/23 5} 111. Be1 {(Kd1) 1
} Rc8 {-3.08/21 3} 112. Nd2 {3} Rh8 {-3.08/20 0} 113. Ndb1 {(Kd1) 2} Ra8 {
-3.08/22 2} 114. Kd2 {4} Rab8 {-3.08/24 0} 115. Nc2 {(Kd1) 6} Bd8 {-3.08/21 3}
116. Nba3 {(Ke2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/24 4} 117. Ke2 {1} Bd6 {-3.08/20 0} 118. Kd1 {
(Bd2) 2} Rb6 {-3.08/23 4} 119. Ke2 {2} Kc7 {-3.08/21 0} 120. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7
{-3.08/25 5} 121. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {-3.08/22 1} 122. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Kd7 {-3.08/25 5}
123. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} R6b7 {-3.08/23 2} 124. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Bg7 {-3.08/22 5} 125.
Ke2 {1} Rb6 {-3.08/20 1} 126. Kd1 {(b5) 2} Kc6 {-3.08/22 3} 127. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {
-3.08/21 0} 128. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/22 1} 129. Ke2 {2} Kb7 {-3.08/22 0}
130. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Rg8 {-3.08/24 4} 131. Ke2 {1} Kc6 {-3.08/24 1} 132. Kd1 {
(Na1) 1} Kd6 {-3.08/25 6} 133. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/24 7} 134. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1
} Rb7 {-3.08/23 4} 135. Ke2 {(Bf2) 1} Rc8 {-3.08/23 4} 136. Kd1 {(Bf2) 0} Rcb8
{-3.08/26 7} 137. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/24 2} 138. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Bd8 {
-3.08/24 2} 139. Ke2 {1} Bf6 {-3.08/25 2} 140. Kd1 {(Bf2) 1} Bg7 {-3.08/22 4}
141. Ke2 {1} Kc7 {-3.08/24 2} 142. Kd1 {(Kd2) 1} Bf6 {-3.08/26 5} 143. Ke2 {1}
Kb6 {-3.08/23 1} 144. Kd1 {(Kd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/26 7} 145. Ke2 {1} Kc7 {
-3.08/25 3} 146. Kd1 {(Bd2) 0} Bd6 {-3.08/25 6} 147. Ke2 {(Bd2) 2} Kd7 {
-3.08/25 8} 148. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Be7 {-3.08/26 5} 149. Ke2 {1} Rb6 {-3.08/24 0}
150. Kd1 {(Bd2) 1} Rc8 {-3.08/21 39} 151. Ke2 {(Kd2) 1} Rg8 {-2.30/21 11} 152.
Kd1 {(Nb1) 2} Rgb8 {-2.32/23 29} 153. Ke2 {(Nb1) 1} R6b7 {-3.08/22 10} 154. Kd1
{(Bd2) 1} Bd6 {-2.68/25 34} 155. Ke2 {1} Bc7 {-0.88/18 0} 156. Kd1 {(Bd2) 3} e5
{-0.91/19 2} 157. dxe5 {2} Bb6 {-0.91/18 0} 158. Ke2 {(Nb5) 1} Rd8 {-0.85/16 2}
159. Bf2 {(Nb5) 3} Ke7 {-0.69/18 3} 160. Bg1 {(Nb5) 1} Ba7 {-1.02/19 2} 161.
Bf2 {0} Rdd7 {-1.07/17 0} 162. Be1 {(e4) 7} Rb8 {-0.85/18 3} 163. Nd4 {(Bf2) 4}
Bxd4 {-1.60/23 3} 164. exd4 {1} Rdb7 {-1.60/25 0} 165. Kd1 {(Nc2) 3} Re8 {
-1.31/23 3} 166. Kc2 {(Nc2) 0} Rd8 {-1.31/25 3} 167. Bd2 {(Kb1) 0} Rdb8 {
-1.31/26 4} 168. Be1 {(Kb1) 1} Ke6 {-1.31/27 3} 169. Bd2 {0} Rd8 {-1.31/25 1}
170. Be1 {(Kb1) 1} Ra8 {-1.31/26 1} 171. Bd2 {0} Rab8 {-1.31/26 1} 172. Be1 {1}
Rb6 {-1.31/27 0} 173. Bd2 {0} Ke7 {-1.31/26 2} 174. Be1 {(Kd1) 1} Ra8 {
-1.31/26 3} 175. Bd2 {(Kd1) 0} Re8 {-1.31/25 2} 176. Be1 {(Kc1) 1} Reb8 {
-1.31/26 5} 177. Bd2 {0} Rd8 {-1.31/26 1} 178. Kb1 {(Kd1) 3} Rc8 {-1.31/27 5}
179. Ka2 {1} Ke6 {-1.31/26 1} 180. Nc2 {1} Rb7 {-1.31/24 2} 181. Ka3 {(Ne3) 1}
Re8 {-1.31/26 3} 182. Bc1 {(Ka2) 3} Reb8 {-1.31/27 9} 183. Bd2 {(Ka2) 1} Rb5 {
-1.31/25 3} 184. Ka2 {(Ne3) 2} R5b6 {-1.31/28 4} 185. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Re8 {
-1.31/27 4} 186. Ka2 {(Na3) 0} Rd8 {-1.31/28 4} 187. Ka1 {(Ka3) 0} Rdb8 {
-1.31/25 2} 188. Ka2 {0} R8b7 {-1.31/28 2} 189. Ka1 {(Kb1) 0} Ra6 {-1.31/28 5}
190. Ka2 {1} Rb8 {-1.31/26 1} 191. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Re8 {-1.31/28 5} 192. Ka2 {0}
Rb6 {-1.31/24 1} 193. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Ra8 {-1.31/29 10} 194. Ka2 {(Kb1) 1} Ra7 {
-1.31/27 4} 195. Ka1 {(Ka3) 0} Rab7 {-1.31/26 4} 196. Ka2 {1} Ra6 {-1.31/26 0}
197. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Raa7 {-1.31/27 2} 198. Ka2 {0} Rb5 {-1.31/26 1} 199. Ka1 {
(Ne3) 1} Rb6 {-1.31/26 4} 200. Ka2 {1} Rc6 {-1.31/26 0} 201. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Ra8
{-1.31/28 5} 202. Ka2 {1} Rb6 {-1.31/28 1} 203. Ka1 {(Ka3) 1} Rf8 {-1.31/28 9}
204. Ka2 {1} Rg8 {-1.31/26 0} 205. Ka1 {(Ka3) 2} Rbb8 {-1.31/27 8} 206. Ka2 {1}
Rg7 {-1.31/25 1} 207. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Re8 {-1.31/26 11} 208. Ka2 {(Kb1) 2} Rc7 {
-1.31/23 11} 209. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Rb8 {-1.31/24 5} 210. Ka2 {1} Ra7 {-1.31/22 2}
211. Ka1 {(Ne3) 1} Rb5 {-0.49/22 17} 212. Ka2 {(Kb1) 2} Rbb7 {-0.49/25 5} 213.
Ka1 {(Bc1) 2} a3 {-0.49/26 6} 214. bxa3 {2} Rb8 {-0.49/26 0} 215. Ka2 {(Kb2) 3}
Rba8 {-0.49/27 4} 216. Kb2 {4} Ra6 {-0.49/27 0} 217. Bc1 {(Ka2) 4} Kd7 {
-0.49/25 7} 218. Kb1 {(Ka2) 3} Rb6 {-0.49/24 5} 219. Ka2 {(Ne3) 5} Ke6 {
-0.49/28 7} 220. Kb2 {(Bd2) 4} Rbb8 {-0.49/24 2} 221. Kb1 {(Ne3) 3} Ra7 {
-0.49/29 11} 222. Kb2 {(Ka1) 1} Re8 {-0.49/26 4} 223. Kb1 {(Ne3) 1} Rea8 {
-0.49/30 10} 224. Kb2 {(Ka2) 3} Rb8 {-0.49/27 6} 225. Kb1 {(Bd2) 1} Rab7 {
-0.49/26 2} 226. Ka2 {(Ne3) 21} Ra8 {-0.49/29 10} 227. Kb1 {(Bd2) 2} Rc7 {
-0.49/29 6} 228. Ka2 {(Ne3) 3} Re7 {-0.49/28 7} 229. Kb1 {(Kb2) 174} Ree8 {
-0.49/29 7} 230. Ka2 {(Kb2) 7} Ra4 {-0.49/29 6} 231. Kb1 {8} Rea8 {-0.49/27 0}
232. Kb2 {(Ne3) 3} Rb8 {-0.49/28 3} 233. Kb1 {(Ne3) 12} Ra6 {-0.49/30 5} 234.
Kb2 {4} Rba8 {-0.49/29 8} 235. Kb1 {4} Rc8 {-0.49/28 0} 236. Kb2 {(Ne3) 9} Rb8
{-0.49/28 1} 237. Kb1 {(Ne3) 4} Ra4 {-0.49/29 9} 238. Kb2 {(Ne3) 2} Rba8 {
-0.49/29 6} 239. Kb1 {(Ka2) 2} R8a7 {-0.49/29 4} 240. Kb2 {(Ne3) 1} Rb7 {
-0.49/29 5} 241. Ka2 {(Ne3) 4} Re7 {-0.49/29 10} 242. Kb2 {(Ne3) 3} Rea7 {
-0.49/28 1} 243. Ka2 {(Bd2) 1} R7a6 {-0.49/25 4} 244. Kb2 {(Kb1) 1} Rb6 {
-0.49/26 2} 245. Ka2 {(Ne3) 2} Ra7 {-0.49/27 2} 246. Kb2 {(Ne3) 4} Ra8 {
-0.49/29 4} 247. Ka2 {(Bd2) 0} Raa6 {-0.49/29 5} 248. Kb2 {(Kb1) 0} Ra7 {
-0.49/29 10} 249. Ka2 {(Ne3) 1} Rbb7 {-0.49/27 6} 250. Kb1 {2} Ra8 {-0.49/27 0}
251. Ka2 {(Kb2) 1} Ra6 {-0.49/28 4} 252. Kb1 {(Ne3) 2} Rba7 {-0.49/25 3} 253.
Ka2 {(Bd2) 3} Re7 {-0.49/28 3} 254. Kb1 {(Bd2) 4} Rb7 {-0.49/28 8} 255. Ka2 {
(Ne3) 2} Rba7 {-0.49/31 5} 256. Kb2 {(Kb1) 2} Ra8 {-0.55/26 3} 257. Kb1 {
(Ka2) 1} Rb6 {-0.52/26 5} 258. Ka2 {(Ne3) 9} Rc6 {-0.53/26 6} 259. b5 {
(Ne3) 116} Rb6 {-1.88/28 6} 260. Nb4 {(Kb2) 2} Rxb5 {-1.84/27 4} 261. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 0} Rbb8 {-1.78/27 5} 262. Bc1 {(Kb1) 7} Rb5 {-1.83/28 6} 263. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 1} Rb6 {-1.78/27 6} 264. Bc1 {(Kb1) 3} Rb7 {-1.85/27 10} 265. Bb2 {
(Kb2) 6} Rb6 {-1.83/27 5} 266. Bc1 {(Kb1) 3} Rb7 {-1.85/28 3} 267. Bb2 {(Kb2) 1
} Rb6 {(Lag: Av=0.48s, max=4.2s) -1.83/28 5} 1/2-1/2

You are missing the point. Would any GM you know play like that (the computer's side)?? Any master? Any expert? This is a problem for computers that has to be solved. Somewhat like having the world's greatest boxer, but with a sign on his shirt that says "don't hit me right over my left ear, anything else is OK." Once everyone figures out that any punch over his left ear puts him down for the count, he's probably not going to win another fight. Computers have some similar weaknesses that _can_ be exploited. I know I'd take a draw against any 2700 player in a tournament, without having to think very hard about it...

[bob]

Sorry, the above was not a reply to the original post in the thread, it was in response to the "this is not chess" point someone made. Or tried to make...

[Nimzovik]

Well stated