Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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gonzochess75
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:30 pm
gonzochess75 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:46 pm
Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:50 am
Dann Corbit wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:30 am When you show respect, it never lessens your position.
In fact, it always strengthens it.
On the other hand, when you are disrespectful, it is a demonstration that you cannot imagine a suitable yet civil argument.
Have some respect to this forum and delete this thread.
Agreed. This thread is nothing but dkpappe's passive aggressive attempt to concerned troll Allie. He's no friend of Allie and has been banned from the Allie discord forum.
I will miss the two posts a month, mostly about jjosh’s nets. :-)
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Getting banned on a barely active forum does sound like a big achievement.
dangi12012 wrote:No one wants to touch anything you have posted. That proves you now have negative reputations since everyone knows already you are a forum troll.

Maybe you copied your stockfish commits from someone else too?
I will look into that.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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gonzochess75 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:21 pm
dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:18 pm Gonzo, you are perpetually on tilt. Read the ChessBase release again.
The release means nothing. That is what the actual binary that ChessBase released says. Albert Silver modified Stockfish sources to rename the engine itself to FatFritz 2 and add himself as an author. Try looking at this screenshot again.

Why don't you go ahead and open up FF2 on a command line and verify for yourself ^^^^
It’s meaningless unless you are using it as an exhibit in your argument. You can’t have it both ways.

I’m impressed that you legally acquired a copy of FF2. I myself haven’t bought any ChessBase software for many years since moving away from Windows and eschewing the awkwardness of wine and virtual machines. I’ll make sure to ask my chess playing, non programmer friends about their experiences firing up a raw uci session. Will report back when I’ve found one.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:38 pm I’ll make sure to ask my chess playing, non programmer friends
That's a great way to suspend the discussion while sounding credible I'll give you that.
dangi12012 wrote:No one wants to touch anything you have posted. That proves you now have negative reputations since everyone knows already you are a forum troll.

Maybe you copied your stockfish commits from someone else too?
I will look into that.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:35 pm Getting banned on a barely active forum does sound like a big achievement.
I couldn’t tell you the last time I made a comment there. And when I did, it was most likely something about jjosh’s nets or maybe some appreciative noises about gonzo using Tiny Gyal (my 16x2 network) for testing Allie. :lol: Gonzo is on tilt.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:41 pm
dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:38 pm I’ll make sure to ask my chess playing, non programmer friends
That's a great way to suspend the discussion while sounding credible I'll give you that.
It’s irony.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:41 pm
dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:38 pm I’ll make sure to ask my chess playing, non programmer friends
That's a great way to suspend the discussion while sounding credible I'll give you that.
It’s irony.
I presumed so but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Looks like you indeed are unable to verify and acknowledge arguments coming from other people.
dangi12012 wrote:No one wants to touch anything you have posted. That proves you now have negative reputations since everyone knows already you are a forum troll.

Maybe you copied your stockfish commits from someone else too?
I will look into that.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:46 pm
dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:41 pm
dkappe wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:38 pm I’ll make sure to ask my chess playing, non programmer friends
That's a great way to suspend the discussion while sounding credible I'll give you that.
It’s irony.
I presumed so but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Looks like you indeed are unable to verify and acknowledge arguments coming from other people.
Might be time for the classic thought experiment: Dkappe must argue that Fire & Houdini have violated the GPL and that FF2 is scummy, while the other users on the forum argue the opposite. I have a feeling Dkappe won't be able to muster up an argument, since he has not entertained any of them thus far.
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Re: Why I stood up for Allie is why I stand up for FF2

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Sopel wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:46 pm I presumed so but gave you the benefit of the doubt. Looks like you indeed are unable to verify and acknowledge arguments coming from other people.
Not sure I need “the benefit of the doubt.” Nobody except for chess programmers cares about what the uci says. Nobody. Cares.

You lose on the marketing, you switch to the UCI output. You lose on that you switch to the GPL. You lose on that, you switch to the marketing. Every three times through you call me a troll.
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