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Serious cloning issue at TCEC
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AndrewGrant
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Serious cloning issue at TCEC
I've just tuned into the latest TCEC event and I'm absolutely disgusted, disturbed, and downright offended to see what they are doing. They are playing blatant clones of the same engine against each other.
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Graham Banks
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
Glad to see that you still have your sense of humour. 
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Kieren Pearson
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
No Andrew, I can see your confusion. It's an easy mistake to make. One of the versions is version 'A' and the other is version 'B'.
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AndrewGrant
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
In your interpretation of copyright law, do you believe the name change from "A" to "B" is a copyrightable work? If not, someone is getting sued big time. Big time.Kieren Pearson wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:49 am No Andrew, I can see your confusion. It's an easy mistake to make. One of the versions is version 'A' and the other is version 'B'.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
Hi there,
is the comminity ready with clone-attacks this can be the final result?!
Only one program will be available and we all have enough time to test all the available
versions from the last engine Mohican.
Best
Frank
is the comminity ready with clone-attacks this can be the final result?!
Only one program will be available and we all have enough time to test all the available
versions from the last engine Mohican.
Best
Frank
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towforce
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
I'm glad you said that or I wouldn't have known!
Writing is the antidote to confusion.
It's not "how smart you are", it's "how are you smart".
Your brain doesn't work the way you want, so train it!
It's not "how smart you are", it's "how are you smart".
Your brain doesn't work the way you want, so train it!
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hgm
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
All Chess engines are equal! But some are more equal than others.
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Serious cloning issue at TCEC
I like this comment!All Chess engines are equal! But some are more equal than others.
From the view of playing style of engines (not from the view of sources) some engines are very equal.
Engines I can't read that it's a clone of another.
A good example I like:
The work by Allard Siemelink (Bright / Spark) and the first Fizbo versions later available.
RANDOM!
Can give many examples!
Today with all the open-sources ...
Not easy to build a rating list or to build a field for an interesting chess tournament with many engines!
Best
Frank