Hi there,
For now the last gauntlet!
15 rounds from run-4 are to play ...
OK, I started for around 2 hours ...
Zahak 10.0 NN
by Amanj Sherwany
https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/
1.380 80min games on 4.4Ghz are to play.
This need around 2.5-3 days:
1. Replay-Zone (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/index.html
2. Gauntlet-table (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/zahak_100-nn.html
3. PGN (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/zahak_100-nn.pgn
Thanks for Zahak 10.0 NN!
Have fun and ... have a nice weekend!
Best
Frank
Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Hm ...
I am thinking a strong start after 125 games!
Perhaps it can go over 3200 Elo in my KI-Ratings ...

I am thinking a strong start after 125 games!
Perhaps it can go over 3200 Elo in my KI-Ratings ...
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
169.5 - 195.5, 46.44%, Perf=3200

First time 3200 Elo after 365 out of 1380 games ...
Interesting games ...
Good work ...
Stop

Best
Frank
First time 3200 Elo after 365 out of 1380 games ...
Interesting games ...
Good work ...
Stop
Best
Frank
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Great !
many thanks, i will let it play next time on my CCT swiss tournament group A too
many thanks, i will let it play next time on my CCT swiss tournament group A too
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Engin,
yes!
around the Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo) level.
Fight for place 23 in my list.
Seems + 50-60 Elo after around 575 games.
Zahak 10.0 NN goes a lot of places higher!

Best
Frank
yes!
around the Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo) level.
Fight for place 23 in my list.
Seems + 50-60 Elo after around 575 games.
Zahak 10.0 NN goes a lot of places higher!
Best
Frank
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
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# Player : Elo Games Score% won draw lost Points Draw% Error OppAvg OppE OppD
16. Nemorino 6.09 NN dev : 3255.70 3161 56.5 876 1819 466 1785.5 57.5 7.91 3204.23 11.71 110.8
17. Clover 3.1 NN : 3253.03 775 51.5 166 467 142 399.5 60.3 15.16 3242.64 11.52 44.4
--. Lc0 0.28.2 752187 CPU : 3252.29 2140 54.2 479 1361 300 1159.5 63.6 9.45 3220.87 11.02 76.9
--. Arasan 23.2 NN : 3250.30 2280 57.7 644 1344 292 1316.0 58.9 8.81 3189.51 10.88 76.0
--. Rodent 1.0 NNSf : 3249.54 1740 54.7 396 1111 233 951.5 63.9 10.35 3214.30 10.35 58.0
--. Coiled 1.1 NNSf : 3248.59 1200 53.5 267 750 183 642.0 62.5 12.35 3223.01 9.73 40.0
--. Halogen 10.23.11 NN dev : 3244.10 775 50.4 148 485 142 390.5 62.6 15.09 3242.82 11.52 44.4
18. Booot 7.0 NN dev : 3236.35 2170 54.1 519 1308 343 1173.0 60.3 9.14 3204.86 11.33 77.9
19. Tucano 10.00 NN : 3236.20 2170 54.1 498 1350 322 1173.0 62.2 9.31 3204.86 11.33 77.9
20. Wasp 5.53 NN dev : 3234.12 1495 51.5 318 905 272 770.5 60.5 10.86 3224.32 11.46 50.0
21. Minic 3.18 NN : 3233.54 2170 53.7 516 1300 354 1166.0 59.9 9.17 3204.90 11.33 77.9
--. Arasan 23.0.1 NN : 3228.60 1200 55.8 309 722 169 670.0 60.2 12.70 3184.35 10.72 40.0
22. Rebel 15 NN : 3215.40 1436 49.6 281 862 293 712.0 60.0 10.94 3220.94 11.46 48.0
--. Lc0 0.28.0 744204 CPU : 3212.87 1200 53.8 311 670 219 646.0 55.8 12.27 3184.75 10.73 40.0
--. Wasp 5.50 NN : 3211.50 630 46.0 101 378 151 290.0 60.0 16.13 3244.28 11.35 40.6
--. Wasp 5.30 NN dev : 3205.62 1200 58.5 356 692 152 702.0 57.7 11.98 3139.42 10.22 40.0
--. Booot 6.5 : 3200.93 1710 48.7 343 981 386 833.5 57.4 10.51 3213.42 10.93 57.0
23. Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo) : 3198.52 775 44.6 126 439 210 345.5 56.6 15.47 3243.70 11.51 44.4
--. Wasp 5.26 NN dev : 3190.67 1200 46.0 216 673 311 552.5 56.1 11.73 3224.46 9.74 40.0
--. Toga IV 1.1 NNRe : 3189.66 720 42.3 97 415 208 304.5 57.6 15.92 3252.99 11.43 42.8
24. Zahak 10.0 NN : 3184.98 1159 45.3 205 639 315 524.5 55.1 12.11 3224.90 11.37 46.0
25. Xiphos 0.6 : 3176.03 3160 46.7 557 1835 768 1474.5 58.1 7.35 3204.99 11.72 110.8
26. Velvet 3.3.0 NN : 3174.53 775 41.5 105 434 236 322.0 56.0 14.91 3244.16 11.52 44.4
--. Wasp 5.20 NN : 3170.88 1230 45.5 208 703 319 559.5 57.2 11.88 3210.22 9.93 41.0
--. rofChade 2.3 : 3169.55 1200 53.8 302 687 211 645.5 57.3 12.02 3140.32 10.22 40.0
--. Minic 3.17 NN : 3166.33 1710 44.4 269 981 460 759.5 57.4 10.27 3214.02 10.94 57.0
--. Clover 3.0 NN : 3166.00 1740 47.4 347 954 439 824.0 54.8 10.22 3189.26 10.63 58.0
--. Rebel 14.2 NN : 3161.41 1290 50.9 298 718 274 657.0 55.7 11.36 3155.39 10.37 43.0
--. Wasp 5.00 NN : 3160.60 1200 47.1 202 727 271 565.5 60.6 12.25 3186.05 10.73 40.0
27. Weiss 2.0 : 3154.70 3160 44.0 518 1747 895 1391.5 55.3 7.60 3205.19 11.72 110.8
28. Combusken 2.0.0 : 3143.95 2170 42.6 334 1181 655 924.5 54.4 9.25 3206.14 11.33 77.9
29. Defenchess 2.3 dev : 3142.78 3160 42.6 509 1674 977 1346.0 53.0 7.25 3205.30 11.72 110.8
--. Gogobello 3.0 NNSf : 3140.96 1230 41.7 141 744 345 513.0 60.5 12.09 3210.95 9.93 41.0
30. Schooner 2.2 XB : 3139.56 3160 42.2 468 1730 962 1333.0 54.7 7.76 3205.33 11.72 110.8
--. Zahak 8.6 NN dev : 3135.21 1200 43.9 205 643 352 526.5 53.6 12.59 3186.69 10.73 40.0
31. Laser 1.7 : 3132.18 3160 41.3 467 1676 1017 1305.0 53.0 7.32 3205.40 11.72 110.8
--. Fritz 18 (Ginkgo) : 3131.29 2760 42.2 424 1484 852 1166.0 53.8 8.09 3196.71 11.33 92.0
--. Zahak 9.0 NN : 3130.87 2655 41.5 396 1412 847 1102.0 53.2 8.17 3202.34 11.40 93.9
--. Velvet 3.2.0 NN : 3130.64 1740 42.9 270 954 516 747.0 54.8 9.90 3189.86 10.64 58.0
32. Bit-Genie 9.19 dev : 3128.37 1375 37.7 167 703 505 518.5 51.1 11.59 3230.08 10.04 46.0
--. Rebel 14.1 NN : 3126.40 1200 37.9 146 618 436 455.0 51.5 12.27 3226.07 9.73 40.0
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24. Zahak 10.0 NN : 3184.98 1159 45.3 205 639 315 524.5 55.1 12.11 3224.90 11.37 46.0
--. Zahak 8.6 NN dev : 3135.21 1200 43.9 205 643 352 526.5 53.6 12.59 3186.69 10.73 40.0
--. Zahak 9.0 NN : 3130.87 2655 41.5 396 1412 847 1102.0 53.2 8.17 3202.34 11.40 93.9
But around 200 games to play!
Best
Frank
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Wolfgang Battig (CEGT) told me (CSS Forum) that Zahak 10.0 have sometimes problems, GUI crashes!
After 1.169 games I have the same problems but on Intel systems only.
On AMD Ryzen 9 5950x, 4.4Ghz __no__ Shredder 12 GUI crashes ... 16 cores = 16 games still running
On Intel i9 10900k, 4.4Ghz, 3x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 10 cores = 10 games still running
On Intel i5 11600K, 4.4Ghz, 7x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 6 cores = 6 games still running
32x 80min games still running since around 2 days.
10 times GUI crashes from 1.169 games = 0,855%
2x games estimated (end result was clear draw)
8x games restarted because end result was not clear enough
Best
Frank
After 1.169 games I have the same problems but on Intel systems only.
On AMD Ryzen 9 5950x, 4.4Ghz __no__ Shredder 12 GUI crashes ... 16 cores = 16 games still running
On Intel i9 10900k, 4.4Ghz, 3x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 10 cores = 10 games still running
On Intel i5 11600K, 4.4Ghz, 7x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 6 cores = 6 games still running
32x 80min games still running since around 2 days.
10 times GUI crashes from 1.169 games = 0,855%
2x games estimated (end result was clear draw)
8x games restarted because end result was not clear enough
Best
Frank
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Hi there,
the final results is around +53
In the evening I updated my rating list, download site.
No time to do this before.
Have a nice start in the week!!
Best
Frank
the final results is around +53
In the evening I updated my rating list, download site.
No time to do this before.
Have a nice start in the week!!
Best
Frank
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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Hi there,
Zahak 10.0 NN is really very strong start of late mid-games.
I believe in this playing-phase on TOP-4 - TOP-12 niveau!
Weaknesses are the same the older versions had.
The first gaming-phase ... a lot of fast lost games!
But all in all ...
A great engine with a very own style of chess.
That is important!
Thanks to the programmer again!
Website is updated!
Have a nice start in the week!
Best
Frank
Zahak 10.0 NN is really very strong start of late mid-games.
I believe in this playing-phase on TOP-4 - TOP-12 niveau!
Weaknesses are the same the older versions had.
The first gaming-phase ... a lot of fast lost games!
But all in all ...
A great engine with a very own style of chess.
That is important!
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Last update: Mai 16th, 2022 (15:00)
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run-g6
Mai 13th, 2022 - Mai 16th, 2022
Zahak 10.0 NN, Kurdistan
1.380 games
https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/
Miniatures, mate below 60 moves (won) = 6 games = 0,434%
Miniatures, mate below 60 moves (lost) = 78 games = 5,652%
Fast draws below 40 moves = 65 games = 4,710%
CATEGORIES MOVE_AVE GAMES TOTAL GAME_RATE
all games 90 1380
white won 93 175
black won 103 62
white draw 95 362
black draw 91 411
white loss 78 153
black loss 79 217
all wins 96 237 1380 17.2%
all draws 93 773 1380 56.0%
all loses 78 370 1380 26.8%
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# Player : Elo Games Score% won draw lost Points Draw% Error OppAvg OppE OppD
24. Zahak 10.0 NN : 3183.28 1380 45.2 237 773 370 623.5 56.0 11.58 3223.72 11.41 46.0
--. Zahak 8.6 NN dev : 3135.07 1200 43.9 205 643 352 526.5 53.6 12.11 3186.55 10.80 40.0
--. Zahak 9.0 NN : 3130.76 2655 41.5 396 1412 847 1102.0 53.2 8.44 3202.23 11.48 93.9
Website is updated!
Have a nice start in the week!
Best
Frank
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...
Hint for the programmer:
Please have a look in the endgames ...
Mating is not correct!
Example:
K-KQpp ...
Mate in 4 is possible ...
Zahak like to do this one:
1. First pawn to the second queen.
2. Second pawn to the third queen.
and after all ...
3. Gave the second queen for nothing
4. Gave the third queen for nothing
5. And set mate with KQ vs. K
A lof of such constellations are in database!
Please download the Zahak 10.0 NN games (run-g6) in *.cbh or *.pgn:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_download-ki.htm
- move average goes high for won games.
- time ressources lost.
A lot of engines in TOP-40 have problems with mating!
Minic 3.18 NN, Dragon 3 NN (Komodo) and a lot of others!
Not very nice if I am looking in live mode!
Should be changed for such a strong engine Zahak 10.0 NN is.
Best
Frank
Please have a look in the endgames ...
Mating is not correct!
Example:
K-KQpp ...
Mate in 4 is possible ...
Zahak like to do this one:
1. First pawn to the second queen.
2. Second pawn to the third queen.
and after all ...
3. Gave the second queen for nothing
4. Gave the third queen for nothing
5. And set mate with KQ vs. K
A lof of such constellations are in database!
Please download the Zahak 10.0 NN games (run-g6) in *.cbh or *.pgn:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_download-ki.htm
- move average goes high for won games.
- time ressources lost.
A lot of engines in TOP-40 have problems with mating!
Minic 3.18 NN, Dragon 3 NN (Komodo) and a lot of others!
Not very nice if I am looking in live mode!
Should be changed for such a strong engine Zahak 10.0 NN is.
Best
Frank