Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

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Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

For now the last gauntlet!
15 rounds from run-4 are to play ...

OK, I started for around 2 hours ...
Zahak 10.0 NN
by Amanj Sherwany
https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/

1.380 80min games on 4.4Ghz are to play.
This need around 2.5-3 days:

1. Replay-Zone (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/index.html

2. Gauntlet-table (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/zahak_100-nn.html

3. PGN (updated every 5 min. with FTP client software: Fling Plus 5.04)
https://www.amateurschach.de/fling/zahak_100-nn.pgn


Thanks for Zahak 10.0 NN!
Have fun and ... have a nice weekend!


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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

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Hm ...
I am thinking a strong start after 125 games!
Perhaps it can go over 3200 Elo in my KI-Ratings ...

:-)
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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

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169.5 - 195.5, 46.44%, Perf=3200

:-)

First time 3200 Elo after 365 out of 1380 games ...
Interesting games ...
Good work ...
Stop

:-)

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Engin »

Great !

many thanks, i will let it play next time on my CCT swiss tournament group A too :-)

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Engin,

yes!
around the Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo) level.
Fight for place 23 in my list.

Seems + 50-60 Elo after around 575 games.
Zahak 10.0 NN goes a lot of places higher!

:-)

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

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   # Player                      :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  16. Nemorino 6.09 NN dev        :  3255.70   3161    56.5   876  1819   466  1785.5   57.5   7.91  3204.23  11.71  110.8
  17. Clover 3.1 NN               :  3253.03    775    51.5   166   467   142   399.5   60.3  15.16  3242.64  11.52   44.4
  --. Lc0 0.28.2 752187 CPU       :  3252.29   2140    54.2   479  1361   300  1159.5   63.6   9.45  3220.87  11.02   76.9
  --. Arasan 23.2 NN              :  3250.30   2280    57.7   644  1344   292  1316.0   58.9   8.81  3189.51  10.88   76.0
  --. Rodent 1.0 NNSf             :  3249.54   1740    54.7   396  1111   233   951.5   63.9  10.35  3214.30  10.35   58.0
  --. Coiled 1.1 NNSf             :  3248.59   1200    53.5   267   750   183   642.0   62.5  12.35  3223.01   9.73   40.0
  --. Halogen 10.23.11 NN dev     :  3244.10    775    50.4   148   485   142   390.5   62.6  15.09  3242.82  11.52   44.4
  18. Booot 7.0 NN dev            :  3236.35   2170    54.1   519  1308   343  1173.0   60.3   9.14  3204.86  11.33   77.9
  19. Tucano 10.00 NN             :  3236.20   2170    54.1   498  1350   322  1173.0   62.2   9.31  3204.86  11.33   77.9
  20. Wasp 5.53 NN dev            :  3234.12   1495    51.5   318   905   272   770.5   60.5  10.86  3224.32  11.46   50.0
  21. Minic 3.18 NN               :  3233.54   2170    53.7   516  1300   354  1166.0   59.9   9.17  3204.90  11.33   77.9
  --. Arasan 23.0.1 NN            :  3228.60   1200    55.8   309   722   169   670.0   60.2  12.70  3184.35  10.72   40.0
  22. Rebel 15 NN                 :  3215.40   1436    49.6   281   862   293   712.0   60.0  10.94  3220.94  11.46   48.0
  --. Lc0 0.28.0 744204 CPU       :  3212.87   1200    53.8   311   670   219   646.0   55.8  12.27  3184.75  10.73   40.0
  --. Wasp 5.50 NN                :  3211.50    630    46.0   101   378   151   290.0   60.0  16.13  3244.28  11.35   40.6
  --. Wasp 5.30 NN dev            :  3205.62   1200    58.5   356   692   152   702.0   57.7  11.98  3139.42  10.22   40.0
  --. Booot 6.5                   :  3200.93   1710    48.7   343   981   386   833.5   57.4  10.51  3213.42  10.93   57.0
  23. Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo)        :  3198.52    775    44.6   126   439   210   345.5   56.6  15.47  3243.70  11.51   44.4
  --. Wasp 5.26 NN dev            :  3190.67   1200    46.0   216   673   311   552.5   56.1  11.73  3224.46   9.74   40.0
  --. Toga IV 1.1 NNRe            :  3189.66    720    42.3    97   415   208   304.5   57.6  15.92  3252.99  11.43   42.8
  24. Zahak 10.0 NN               :  3184.98   1159    45.3   205   639   315   524.5   55.1  12.11  3224.90  11.37   46.0
  25. Xiphos 0.6                  :  3176.03   3160    46.7   557  1835   768  1474.5   58.1   7.35  3204.99  11.72  110.8
  26. Velvet 3.3.0 NN             :  3174.53    775    41.5   105   434   236   322.0   56.0  14.91  3244.16  11.52   44.4
  --. Wasp 5.20 NN                :  3170.88   1230    45.5   208   703   319   559.5   57.2  11.88  3210.22   9.93   41.0
  --. rofChade 2.3                :  3169.55   1200    53.8   302   687   211   645.5   57.3  12.02  3140.32  10.22   40.0
  --. Minic 3.17 NN               :  3166.33   1710    44.4   269   981   460   759.5   57.4  10.27  3214.02  10.94   57.0
  --. Clover 3.0 NN               :  3166.00   1740    47.4   347   954   439   824.0   54.8  10.22  3189.26  10.63   58.0
  --. Rebel 14.2 NN               :  3161.41   1290    50.9   298   718   274   657.0   55.7  11.36  3155.39  10.37   43.0
  --. Wasp 5.00 NN                :  3160.60   1200    47.1   202   727   271   565.5   60.6  12.25  3186.05  10.73   40.0
  27. Weiss 2.0                   :  3154.70   3160    44.0   518  1747   895  1391.5   55.3   7.60  3205.19  11.72  110.8
  28. Combusken 2.0.0             :  3143.95   2170    42.6   334  1181   655   924.5   54.4   9.25  3206.14  11.33   77.9
  29. Defenchess 2.3 dev          :  3142.78   3160    42.6   509  1674   977  1346.0   53.0   7.25  3205.30  11.72  110.8
  --. Gogobello 3.0 NNSf          :  3140.96   1230    41.7   141   744   345   513.0   60.5  12.09  3210.95   9.93   41.0
  30. Schooner 2.2 XB             :  3139.56   3160    42.2   468  1730   962  1333.0   54.7   7.76  3205.33  11.72  110.8
  --. Zahak 8.6 NN dev            :  3135.21   1200    43.9   205   643   352   526.5   53.6  12.59  3186.69  10.73   40.0
  31. Laser 1.7                   :  3132.18   3160    41.3   467  1676  1017  1305.0   53.0   7.32  3205.40  11.72  110.8
  --. Fritz 18 (Ginkgo)           :  3131.29   2760    42.2   424  1484   852  1166.0   53.8   8.09  3196.71  11.33   92.0
  --. Zahak 9.0 NN                :  3130.87   2655    41.5   396  1412   847  1102.0   53.2   8.17  3202.34  11.40   93.9
  --. Velvet 3.2.0 NN             :  3130.64   1740    42.9   270   954   516   747.0   54.8   9.90  3189.86  10.64   58.0
  32. Bit-Genie 9.19 dev          :  3128.37   1375    37.7   167   703   505   518.5   51.1  11.59  3230.08  10.04   46.0
  --. Rebel 14.1 NN               :  3126.40   1200    37.9   146   618   436   455.0   51.5  12.27  3226.07   9.73   40.0

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  24. Zahak 10.0 NN               :  3184.98   1159    45.3   205   639   315   524.5   55.1  12.11  3224.90  11.37   46.0
  --. Zahak 8.6 NN dev            :  3135.21   1200    43.9   205   643   352   526.5   53.6  12.59  3186.69  10.73   40.0
  --. Zahak 9.0 NN                :  3130.87   2655    41.5   396  1412   847  1102.0   53.2   8.17  3202.34  11.40   93.9
+54,11 Elo from 10.0 NN to 9.0 NN
But around 200 games to play!

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Wolfgang Battig (CEGT) told me (CSS Forum) that Zahak 10.0 have sometimes problems, GUI crashes!

After 1.169 games I have the same problems but on Intel systems only.

On AMD Ryzen 9 5950x, 4.4Ghz __no__ Shredder 12 GUI crashes ... 16 cores = 16 games still running
On Intel i9 10900k, 4.4Ghz, 3x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 10 cores = 10 games still running
On Intel i5 11600K, 4.4Ghz, 7x Shredder 12 GUI crashed ... 6 cores = 6 games still running

32x 80min games still running since around 2 days.

10 times GUI crashes from 1.169 games = 0,855%

2x games estimated (end result was clear draw)
8x games restarted because end result was not clear enough

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

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Hi there,

the final results is around +53
In the evening I updated my rating list, download site.
No time to do this before.

Have a nice start in the week!!

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

Zahak 10.0 NN is really very strong start of late mid-games.
I believe in this playing-phase on TOP-4 - TOP-12 niveau!

Weaknesses are the same the older versions had.
The first gaming-phase ... a lot of fast lost games!

But all in all ...
A great engine with a very own style of chess.
That is important!

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Last update: Mai 16th, 2022 (15:00)
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run-g6
Mai 13th, 2022 - Mai 16th, 2022
Zahak 10.0 NN, Kurdistan
1.380 games
https://github.com/amanjpro/zahak/

Miniatures, mate below 60 moves (won)  =   6 games = 0,434%
Miniatures, mate below 60 moves (lost) =  78 games = 5,652%
Fast draws below 40 moves              =  65 games = 4,710%

CATEGORIES   MOVE_AVE    GAMES    TOTAL  GAME_RATE
 all games         90     1380
 white won         93      175
 black won        103       62
white draw         95      362
black draw         91      411
white loss         78      153
black loss         79      217
  all wins         96      237     1380      17.2%
 all draws         93      773     1380      56.0%
 all loses         78      370     1380      26.8%
 
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    # Player                      :      Elo  Games  Score%   won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
  24. Zahak 10.0 NN               :  3183.28   1380    45.2   237   773   370   623.5   56.0  11.58  3223.72  11.41   46.0
  --. Zahak 8.6 NN dev            :  3135.07   1200    43.9   205   643   352   526.5   53.6  12.11  3186.55  10.80   40.0
  --. Zahak 9.0 NN                :  3130.76   2655    41.5   396  1412   847  1102.0   53.2   8.44  3202.23  11.48   93.9
Thanks to the programmer again!
Website is updated!

Have a nice start in the week!

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Re: Zahak 10.0 NN vs. 46 engines ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hint for the programmer:
Please have a look in the endgames ...

Mating is not correct!

Example:
K-KQpp ...
Mate in 4 is possible ...

Zahak like to do this one:

1. First pawn to the second queen.
2. Second pawn to the third queen.
and after all ...
3. Gave the second queen for nothing
4. Gave the third queen for nothing
5. And set mate with KQ vs. K

A lof of such constellations are in database!

Please download the Zahak 10.0 NN games (run-g6) in *.cbh or *.pgn:
https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_download-ki.htm

- move average goes high for won games.
- time ressources lost.

A lot of engines in TOP-40 have problems with mating!
Minic 3.18 NN, Dragon 3 NN (Komodo) and a lot of others!

Not very nice if I am looking in live mode!
Should be changed for such a strong engine Zahak 10.0 NN is.

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Frank