Stockfish 200622 - Ethereal 13.75
GUI D-Rybka3/F11, book C30-39-LC0.ctg (normal, min=3, max depth=8), 6cpu (AMD Ryzen5 4500U).
+18=81-1 +-60ELO
games
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Stockfish-Ethereal, 15m+10s"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.06.27"]
[Round "5"]
[White "Stockfish 200622"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C34"]
[Annotator "0.00;-0.18"]
[PlyCount "65"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=36.8 plies; 5 005kN/s; 337 640
TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=33.0 plies; 6 980kN/s; 992 420 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg}
1. e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. f4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} exf4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,
0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:
00:00]} g5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. h4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} g4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Ng1 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bh6 {[%eval 0,
0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Ne2 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qf6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt
0:00:00]} 8. Nbc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]
both whitout book} 9. e5 {[%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:52]} dxe5 {[%eval -18,30]
[%emt 0:00:22]} 10. Ne4 {[%eval 0,42] [%emt 0:00:22]} Qg6 {[%eval -9,31] [%emt
0:00:55] (De6)} 11. N2c3 {[%eval 0,36] [%emt 0:00:37]} Bf5 {[%eval -1,32]
[%emt 0:00:38] (Se6)} 12. h5 {[%eval 106,36] [%emt 0:00:31]} Qe6 {[%eval -1,32]
[%emt 0:00:19]} 13. Bc4 {[%eval 115,38] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qe7 {[%eval 1,32]
[%emt 0:00:18]} 14. dxe5 {[%eval 131,37] [%emt 0:00:22]} Bxe4 {[%eval -1,33]
[%emt 0:00:22]} 15. Nxe4 {[%eval 87,44] [%emt 0:00:49]} Nd7 {[%eval 1,36]
[%emt 0:01:36]} 16. Bxf7+ {[%eval 82,39] [%emt 0:00:23]} Kxf7 {[%eval -1,33]
[%emt 0:00:20]} 17. O-O {[%eval 94,42] [%emt 0:00:27]} f3 {[%eval 24,33] [%emt
0:00:23]} 18. gxf3 {[%eval 81,43] [%emt 0:00:28]} Bxc1 {[%eval 1,33] [%emt 0:
00:34]} 19. Rxc1 {[%eval 88,44] [%emt 0:00:26]} Nxe5 {[%eval 7,37] [%emt 0:00:
42]} 20. fxg4+ {[%eval 9,43] [%emt 0:01:12]} Kg7 {[%eval 1,36] [%emt 0:00:18]}
21. g5 {[%eval 0,48] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qe6 {[%eval 1,39] [%emt 0:01:04] (h6)} 22.
Ng3 {[%eval 125,35] [%emt 0:00:27] (De2)} Ne7 {[%eval -1,38] [%emt 0:00:29]}
23. h6+ {[%eval 165,37] [%emt 0:00:39] (Vf6)} Kg8 {[%eval 20,31] [%emt 0:00:45]
} 24. Qd2 {[%eval 162,34] [%emt 0:00:24]} Re8 {[%eval 42,32] [%emt 0:00:43]}
25. Rce1 {[%eval 222,35] [%emt 0:00:41] (Dd4)} N7g6 {[%eval -1,34] [%emt 0:00:
13]} 26. Re2 {[%eval 228,38] [%emt 0:00:39] (Je4)} Qd5 {[%eval 1,35] [%emt 0:
00:34] (b6)} 27. Qe3 {[%eval 357,33] [%emt 0:00:21]} Rf8 {[%eval 1,36] [%emt 0:
00:22]} 28. Nf5 {[%eval 381,31] [%emt 0:00:26] (Vef2)} Qd8 {[%eval 106,32]
[%emt 0:01:36] (De6)} 29. Rd2 {[%eval 793,28] [%emt 0:00:24]} Qb6 {[%eval 448,
32] [%emt 0:01:56] (De8)} 30. Rd4 {[%eval 954,26] [%emt 0:00:21]} Kf7 {[%eval
454,30] [%emt 0:00:19]} 31. Qh3 {[%eval 980,28] [%emt 0:00:21]} c5 {[%eval 975,
27] [%emt 0:00:33]} 32. Rd6 {[%eval 993,28] [%emt 0:00:23]} Qxd6 {[%eval 992,
28] [%emt 0:00:22]} 33. Nxd6+ {[%eval 1044,26] [%emt 0:00:23]} 1-0
[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Stockfish-Ethereal, 15m+10s"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.06.30"]
[Round "60"]
[White "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Black "Stockfish 200622"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C34"]
[Annotator "-0.77;-1.36"]
[PlyCount "108"]
[EventDate "2022.??.??"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=32.6 plies; 7 329kN/s; 1 833 482
TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=38.3 plies; 5 527kN/s; 2 699 877 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg
} 1. e4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. f4 {
[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} exf4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%eval 0,
0] [%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 4. d4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:
00:00]} g5 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} d6
{[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 6. g3 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} fxg3 {[%eval 0,
0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. h4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} gxh4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt
0:00:00]} 8. Nxh4 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 0,0] [%emt 0:00:00]
both whitout book} 9. Bb5 {[%eval -77,30] [%emt 0:01:44]} a6 {[%eval -136,40]
[%emt 0:04:04]} 10. Bxc6+ {[%eval -98,30] [%emt 0:00:25]} bxc6 {[%eval -119,35]
[%emt 0:00:15]} 11. Qd3 {[%eval -102,31] [%emt 0:00:40]} Bg4 {[%eval -154,33]
[%emt 0:00:20]} 12. Qxg3 {[%eval -103,32] [%emt 0:00:31]} Nf6 {[%eval -132,38]
[%emt 0:00:34] (h5)} 13. Be3 {[%eval -110,31] [%emt 0:01:20]} Qe7 {[%eval -119,
40] [%emt 0:00:40]} 14. Rf1 {[%eval -96,33] [%emt 0:01:34] (Jf5)} h5 {[%eval
-136,35] [%emt 0:00:21]} 15. Qf2 {[%eval -125,32] [%emt 0:00:30]} Nd7 {[%eval
-141,35] [%emt 0:00:33]} 16. Nf5 {[%eval -129,30] [%emt 0:00:19]} Qf6 {[%eval
-169,33] [%emt 0:00:23]} 17. Qd2 {[%eval -136,33] [%emt 0:00:40]} Qg6 {[%eval
-157,34] [%emt 0:00:20]} 18. Nh4 {[%eval -139,32] [%emt 0:00:29]} Qh7 {[%eval
-159,35] [%emt 0:00:21]} 19. Qd3 {[%eval -138,31] [%emt 0:00:28]} Bh6 {[%eval
-168,34] [%emt 0:00:25]} 20. Nf5 {[%eval -154,35] [%emt 0:02:03] (Kd2)} Bxf5 {
[%eval -153,34] [%emt 0:00:23]} 21. Rxf5 {[%eval -148,31] [%emt 0:00:19]} Bxe3
{[%eval -144,36] [%emt 0:00:22]} 22. Qxe3 {[%eval -152,31] [%emt 0:00:12]} h4 {
[%eval -177,33] [%emt 0:00:27]} 23. Qh3 {[%eval -154,32] [%emt 0:00:20] (Je2)}
Qh6 {[%eval -201,32] [%emt 0:00:24]} 24. Ne2 {[%eval -168,31] [%emt 0:00:25]}
O-O-O {[%eval -209,37] [%emt 0:00:26]} 25. Nf4 {[%eval -195,31] [%emt 0:00:19]}
Kb7 {[%eval -231,31] [%emt 0:00:20]} 26. O-O-O {[%eval -167,29] [%emt 0:00:11]}
Rdg8 {[%eval -209,41] [%emt 0:00:47]} 27. Kb1 {[%eval -165,32] [%emt 0:01:08]
(Vxf7)} Rg3 {[%eval -276,36] [%emt 0:00:20]} 28. Qf1 {[%eval -171,31] [%emt 0:
00:11]} h3 {[%eval -274,39] [%emt 0:00:22]} 29. Ra5 {[%eval -221,33] [%emt 0:
00:12]} Nb8 {[%eval -266,45] [%emt 0:00:23]} 30. Rh5 {[%eval -194,34] [%emt 0:
00:16]} Qxh5 {[%eval -291,43] [%emt 0:00:20]} 31. Nxh5 {[%eval -181,34] [%emt
0:00:12]} Rxh5 {[%eval -196,59] [%emt 0:01:08]} 32. Qxf7 {[%eval -181,33]
[%emt 0:00:10]} Rh8 {[%eval -196,57] [%emt 0:00:21] (Vh4)} 33. Qf6 {[%eval
-181,37] [%emt 0:00:26]} Rh7 {[%eval -196,61] [%emt 0:00:25] (Vh5)} 34. Qf5 {
[%eval -177,32] [%emt 0:00:11]} Rh4 {[%eval -196,61] [%emt 0:00:34]} 35. Qf6 {
[%eval -197,33] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rxe4 {[%eval -195,56] [%emt 0:00:18]} 36. a4 {
[%eval -217,34] [%emt 0:00:19] (a3)} Nd7 {[%eval -290,34] [%emt 0:00:22]} 37.
Qf5 {[%eval -214,31] [%emt 0:00:14]} Ree3 {[%eval -345,32] [%emt 0:00:22]} 38.
d5 {[%eval -250,31] [%emt 0:00:21]} c5 {[%eval -395,34] [%emt 0:00:25]} 39. Rh1
{[%eval -307,31] [%emt 0:00:41]} Nb6 {[%eval -403,33] [%emt 0:00:19]} 40. a5 {
[%eval -288,36] [%emt 0:01:27]} Rgf3 {[%eval -415,35] [%emt 0:00:20]} 41. Qg5 {
[%eval -332,31] [%emt 0:00:15]} Nd7 {[%eval -425,35] [%emt 0:00:30]} 42. Qh6 {
[%eval -391,34] [%emt 0:01:01] (b4)} Nf6 {[%eval -469,34] [%emt 0:00:18]} 43.
Qg5 {[%eval -396,30] [%emt 0:00:16] (Dh4)} Ne4 {[%eval -582,34] [%emt 0:00:20]
(Ve4)} 44. Qh4 {[%eval -376,32] [%emt 0:00:35] (Dg7)} Nd2+ {[%eval -826,34]
[%emt 0:00:30] (Jf6)} 45. Kc1 {[%eval -394,32] [%emt 0:00:08]} Re2 {[%eval
-840,38] [%emt 0:00:20]} 46. Kd1 {[%eval -358,34] [%emt 0:00:16]} Rg2 {[%eval
-875,32] [%emt 0:00:17]} 47. Qa4 {[%eval -360,35] [%emt 0:00:07]} Nc4 {[%eval
-909,43] [%emt 0:00:18]} 48. Qc6+ {[%eval -445,35] [%emt 0:00:27]} Kb8 {
[%eval -914,31] [%emt 0:00:17]} 49. Qxa6 {[%eval -468,39] [%emt 0:00:15]} Ne3+
{[%eval -919,48] [%emt 0:00:25]} 50. Kc1 {[%eval -468,40] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rxc2+
{[%eval -1019,38] [%emt 0:00:22] (Vff2)} 51. Kb1 {[%eval -471,26] [%emt 0:00:
06]} Rff2 {[%eval -1117,38] [%emt 0:00:18]} 52. Qb5+ {[%eval -478,33] [%emt 0:
00:06]} Ka7 {[%eval -1136,31] [%emt 0:00:14]} 53. Qb3 {[%eval -488,35] [%emt 0:
00:12]} h2 {[%eval -1272,35] [%emt 0:00:19] (Vcd2)} 54. a6 {[%eval -498,37]
[%emt 0:00:06]} Rxb2+ {[%eval -1454,29] [%emt 0:00:23]} 0-1
[/pgn]
C30-39
Moderators: hgm, Dann Corbit, Harvey Williamson
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AndrewGrant
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Re: C30-39
Taking a look at some of these games, and I'm fairly confused. Arena suggests to me that the engines are reporting scores well over +40.00 at the very first position in some cases. Is this supposed to be an extremely unbalanced book, or am I viewing these scores wrong?
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Andrew
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Re: C30-39
Looking at the second game and hitting the d8 square to get full pgn.
First move out of book it shows:
9. Bb5 {
[%eval -77,30]
[%emt 0:01:44]
Copy pasting the whole game from the d8 pop-up into Fritz 17 it shows
9. Bb5 {-0.77/30 104}
in the notation which looks more reasonable.
Andrew
First move out of book it shows:
9. Bb5 {
[%eval -77,30]
[%emt 0:01:44]
Copy pasting the whole game from the d8 pop-up into Fritz 17 it shows
9. Bb5 {-0.77/30 104}
in the notation which looks more reasonable.
Andrew
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AndrewGrant
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Re: C30-39
Ah I see. Arena is (mistakenly? Or is the fault in the pgn writer?) merging the eval with the depth.
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Rubinus
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Re: C30-39
I don't want an outright book. It's just (almost) all draws. I'm making a private book for a king gambit. And I'm using these games to look for weaknesses.AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:28 am Taking a look at some of these games, and I'm fairly confused. Arena suggests to me that the engines are reporting scores well over +40.00 at the very first position in some cases. Is this supposed to be an extremely unbalanced book, or am I viewing these scores wrong?
It's supposed to be for people with somehow impaired motors to play, so it's intentionally pretty broad. And it seems that most old books, apart from some historical value, are just a collection of paper anymore. You can find routines with a modern engine that just aren't in those older books.
Dragon - Ethereal match is running now, the score looks similar, 6:0=32. I think there are gaps in the knowledge network.
Off topic. Apparently the last Stockfish was trained in anti-computer positions. The next position resolves in a freakish 1s. Version 13 couldn't even make it after two days, LC0 in like 30 mins. The thing is that after 1.Qxe5 fe5 2.Rf1 Black is knocked out, but there are a lot of those tempos, so a classically working program probably doesn't stand a chance. Dragon sees nothing, neither does Ethereal. We've also tried mirroring, or maybe with a tower on b1 and form, Stockfish sees it, has it in the net, not just some trick like it used to be with Rebel and the LCTII test. There are some solutions wrong by the way when checked today.
[fen]4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - - 0 0[/fen]
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Rubinus
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Re: C30-39
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Blic:15'+10""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "61"]
[White "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C33"]
[Annotator "0.86;0.05"]
[PlyCount "97"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=36.2 plies; 7 730kN/s; 2
162 195 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=33.9 plies; 9 857kN/s; 6 291 886 TBAs;
C30-39-LC0.ctg} 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Bb4 {It is better to insert c6,
it can be played like this} 5. Nge2 {Nf3 is probably stronger, because after the exchange to c3 the
would have a pair of bishops for the triangle, which is more. And on f3 he plays
more active.} O-O $6 {Mistake from the book, it was necessary to let the shooter into the game even for
the cost of returning the material. It's not that big a deal, the game is out of balance.
he's not out of the game, just black has some worries that he can't solve here.
I'll leave it there. It's just a demonstration that we should defend against gambits actively,
calm development may not always be enough.} ({Stockfish imagines it} 5... d5 6.
exd5 f3 {what about him, we'll tear it up for the white man} 7. gxf3 Nbd7 8. Bb3 Nb6 9. a3 Ba5
10. d3 Nfxd5 11. Bd2 Bxc3 12. Nxc3 {and unlike the lot, the white one has more trouble})
6. O-O Nxe4 7. Nxf4 $1 {Both outside the library} Bxc3 $6 {This is no longer from the library and
and it is the source of further trouble.} ({The return could still keep the equilibrium here
of material} 7... d5 8. Nfxd5 c6 9. Nxb4 Qd4+ 10. Kh1 Qxc4 {because black would
to replace White with some active pieces, and the other pieces are standing uncomfortably.}) 8. bxc3
d6 9. Qf3 {(De1)} Ng5 10. Qg3 Ne4 11. Qe1 Nf6 ({To the lost position is to lead}
11... Re8 $2 12. d3 Nf6 13. Qg3 Bf5 14. Nd5) 12. d4 Nc6 $6 {(b6)} ({Easy does it
not easy, even Stockfish takes a while to assess that after} 12... b6 13. Nd5 Nxd5
14. Bxd5 c6 15. Bb3 d5 16. Qg3 f6 {the black position is slightly disabled, but fully
defensible}) 13. Bd3 a6 {They say b6 again so that Vb1 can't be caught behind b7 with
with tempo, it's weird too. The move in the game probably prevents it from going over b5
from getting to the other wing of the rook, that's what it looks like to me when I click through. Nez
I finished, the computer changed the design to h6, it's having trouble configuring
of the defense.} (13... Ne7 {Attempt to bring in reinforcements fails} 14. Ne2 Nfd5 (14...
Kh8 $4 15. Bg5 Neg8 $2 16. Rxf6 Nxf6 17. Qh4) 15. c4 {because here the notin must
on the b6 and again he would be missing on the wing} Nf6 $4 16. Bg5 Nh5 (16... Ng6 17. Ng3 Qe8 18.
Qd2) 17. Qh4 f6 18. Bd2 g6 19. g4 Ng7 {In both variants the white is to be smooth
won, because his superiority on the wing is overwhelming. How many of us would hold that against
against him? Maybe 50% is optimism.}) 14. Qh4 {The situation can be compared to
to a bad hockey shift during a game. Two players somehow forget each other and
the opponent has a 5-on-3 advantage...} Ne7 15. Nd5 $3 {It opens up the casualty
the expensive and black material won't hold anyway. Probably a very difficult move for humans. V
...the manuals say to attack in such a way as to turn the temporary attack into a permanent one.} Nexd5
16. Bg5 h6 {Otherwise, demolition of the defense on f6.} 17. Bxh6 $1 gxh6 18. Qxh6 Re8 19. c4
{The only Bh7+ is a draw.} Ne4 20. Rxf7 $3 {Normally it's not possible, black would be
...to defend himself.} Kxf7 21. Qh7+ Kf8 22. cxd5 Qe7 ({Not even inventive} 22... Bf5 23.
Rf1 {After the queen, it's just plain sailing again!} Qe7 24. Qh8+ Kf7 25. Rxf5+ Nf6
26. Qh5+ Kf8 27. Qg6 Qg7 28. Rxf6+ Kg8 29. h4) 23. Qh8+ {(Vf1+)} Kf7 24. Rf1+ {
(Dh7+)} Nf6 {(Sf5)} 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26. Qg6 Bf5 27. Rxf5 Qg7 28. Rxf6+ Kg8 {Primy
the offense is exhausted, he won't get black checkmate. But he can't defend the endgame. And now you're
...imagine that at least this is where the computer has to see the move... 15.Nd5} 29.
g4 $2 {Stockfish prefers h4, but it might turn out to be
a plane.} Qxg6 30. Rxg6+ Kf7 31. Kf2 {(g5)} Rg8 32. Rxg8 Rxg8 33. Bf5 {(Kg3)}
Kg7 $11 34. Kg3 {(h4)} Re8 35. g5 Re1 36. h4 {Probably the fourth position that would
would be good as a diagram for a Facebook solution} Rh1 $4 {(Vg1+) Unpredictable
a losing blunder. After the immediate Rg1, the difference is that White has no passage
for the kings!} (36... Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38. Kg4 Rg1+ {Because the attempted passage
by the other side leads to a win for black.} 39. Kh5 $4 b5 40. a3 a5 41. Bd7 Rg3) 37.
Be4 Rg1+ 38. Kf4 Rf1+ 39. Bf3 a5 {(Kg6)} 40. h5 a4 41. Kg3 Re1 (41... Ra1 {
Trying to pass on the other wing is too slow} 42. h6+ Kg8 43. g6) 42. Kf2 Re8
43. Be2 Re4 {Fifth diagram.} 44. h6+ $1 {only} Kh8 45. Kf3 Rxd4 46. Bd3 Rh4 {
(b5)} 47. Kg3 Rh1 48. Kg4 {(a3)} Kg8 {(Vh2)} 49. Kf5 {(a3)} 1-0
[/pgn]
Dragon - Ethereal so far 14:1=53, +- 67 ELO.
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "61"]
[White "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C33"]
[Annotator "0.86;0.05"]
[PlyCount "97"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=36.2 plies; 7 730kN/s; 2
162 195 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=33.9 plies; 9 857kN/s; 6 291 886 TBAs;
C30-39-LC0.ctg} 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Nc3 Bb4 {It is better to insert c6,
it can be played like this} 5. Nge2 {Nf3 is probably stronger, because after the exchange to c3 the
would have a pair of bishops for the triangle, which is more. And on f3 he plays
more active.} O-O $6 {Mistake from the book, it was necessary to let the shooter into the game even for
the cost of returning the material. It's not that big a deal, the game is out of balance.
he's not out of the game, just black has some worries that he can't solve here.
I'll leave it there. It's just a demonstration that we should defend against gambits actively,
calm development may not always be enough.} ({Stockfish imagines it} 5... d5 6.
exd5 f3 {what about him, we'll tear it up for the white man} 7. gxf3 Nbd7 8. Bb3 Nb6 9. a3 Ba5
10. d3 Nfxd5 11. Bd2 Bxc3 12. Nxc3 {and unlike the lot, the white one has more trouble})
6. O-O Nxe4 7. Nxf4 $1 {Both outside the library} Bxc3 $6 {This is no longer from the library and
and it is the source of further trouble.} ({The return could still keep the equilibrium here
of material} 7... d5 8. Nfxd5 c6 9. Nxb4 Qd4+ 10. Kh1 Qxc4 {because black would
to replace White with some active pieces, and the other pieces are standing uncomfortably.}) 8. bxc3
d6 9. Qf3 {(De1)} Ng5 10. Qg3 Ne4 11. Qe1 Nf6 ({To the lost position is to lead}
11... Re8 $2 12. d3 Nf6 13. Qg3 Bf5 14. Nd5) 12. d4 Nc6 $6 {(b6)} ({Easy does it
not easy, even Stockfish takes a while to assess that after} 12... b6 13. Nd5 Nxd5
14. Bxd5 c6 15. Bb3 d5 16. Qg3 f6 {the black position is slightly disabled, but fully
defensible}) 13. Bd3 a6 {They say b6 again so that Vb1 can't be caught behind b7 with
with tempo, it's weird too. The move in the game probably prevents it from going over b5
from getting to the other wing of the rook, that's what it looks like to me when I click through. Nez
I finished, the computer changed the design to h6, it's having trouble configuring
of the defense.} (13... Ne7 {Attempt to bring in reinforcements fails} 14. Ne2 Nfd5 (14...
Kh8 $4 15. Bg5 Neg8 $2 16. Rxf6 Nxf6 17. Qh4) 15. c4 {because here the notin must
on the b6 and again he would be missing on the wing} Nf6 $4 16. Bg5 Nh5 (16... Ng6 17. Ng3 Qe8 18.
Qd2) 17. Qh4 f6 18. Bd2 g6 19. g4 Ng7 {In both variants the white is to be smooth
won, because his superiority on the wing is overwhelming. How many of us would hold that against
against him? Maybe 50% is optimism.}) 14. Qh4 {The situation can be compared to
to a bad hockey shift during a game. Two players somehow forget each other and
the opponent has a 5-on-3 advantage...} Ne7 15. Nd5 $3 {It opens up the casualty
the expensive and black material won't hold anyway. Probably a very difficult move for humans. V
...the manuals say to attack in such a way as to turn the temporary attack into a permanent one.} Nexd5
16. Bg5 h6 {Otherwise, demolition of the defense on f6.} 17. Bxh6 $1 gxh6 18. Qxh6 Re8 19. c4
{The only Bh7+ is a draw.} Ne4 20. Rxf7 $3 {Normally it's not possible, black would be
...to defend himself.} Kxf7 21. Qh7+ Kf8 22. cxd5 Qe7 ({Not even inventive} 22... Bf5 23.
Rf1 {After the queen, it's just plain sailing again!} Qe7 24. Qh8+ Kf7 25. Rxf5+ Nf6
26. Qh5+ Kf8 27. Qg6 Qg7 28. Rxf6+ Kg8 29. h4) 23. Qh8+ {(Vf1+)} Kf7 24. Rf1+ {
(Dh7+)} Nf6 {(Sf5)} 25. Qh7+ Kf8 26. Qg6 Bf5 27. Rxf5 Qg7 28. Rxf6+ Kg8 {Primy
the offense is exhausted, he won't get black checkmate. But he can't defend the endgame. And now you're
...imagine that at least this is where the computer has to see the move... 15.Nd5} 29.
g4 $2 {Stockfish prefers h4, but it might turn out to be
a plane.} Qxg6 30. Rxg6+ Kf7 31. Kf2 {(g5)} Rg8 32. Rxg8 Rxg8 33. Bf5 {(Kg3)}
Kg7 $11 34. Kg3 {(h4)} Re8 35. g5 Re1 36. h4 {Probably the fourth position that would
would be good as a diagram for a Facebook solution} Rh1 $4 {(Vg1+) Unpredictable
a losing blunder. After the immediate Rg1, the difference is that White has no passage
for the kings!} (36... Rg1+ 37. Kf4 Rh1 38. Kg4 Rg1+ {Because the attempted passage
by the other side leads to a win for black.} 39. Kh5 $4 b5 40. a3 a5 41. Bd7 Rg3) 37.
Be4 Rg1+ 38. Kf4 Rf1+ 39. Bf3 a5 {(Kg6)} 40. h5 a4 41. Kg3 Re1 (41... Ra1 {
Trying to pass on the other wing is too slow} 42. h6+ Kg8 43. g6) 42. Kf2 Re8
43. Be2 Re4 {Fifth diagram.} 44. h6+ $1 {only} Kh8 45. Kf3 Rxd4 46. Bd3 Rh4 {
(b5)} 47. Kg3 Rh1 48. Kg4 {(a3)} Kg8 {(Vh2)} 49. Kf5 {(a3)} 1-0
[/pgn]
Dragon - Ethereal so far 14:1=53, +- 67 ELO.
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Re: C30-39
Komodo Dragon 3 - Ethereal 13.75
GUI D-Rybka3/F11, book C30-39-LC0.ctg (normal, min=3, max depth=8), 6cpu (AMD Ryzen5 4500U).
+21=78-1 +-70ELO
games
There was also one embarrassing loss for both colours. The king's safety failed.
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Blic:15'+10""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "77"]
[White "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C37"]
[Annotator "-1.20;-1.34"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=30.8 plies; 5 092kN/s; 1
495 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=29.0 plies; 6 491kN/s; 88 990 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg
} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. f4 {B 0} exf4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 4. d4 {B 0}
g5 {B 0} 5. h4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 6. g3 {B 0} g4 {B 0} 7. Nh2 {B 0} fxg3 {B 0} 8.
Nxg4 {B 0} d6 {B 0 Both whitout book} 9. c3 {-1.20/29 27} Nf6 {-1.34/27 34} 10.
Nxf6+ {-1.21/31 58 (Je3)} Qxf6 {-1.23/28 27} 11. Be3 {-1.32/34 48} h5 {-1.78/
30 30} 12. Qd2 {-1.33/31 23} Bg4 {-1.64/30 27} 13. Bg5 {-1.37/33 24 (Sg2)} Qg6
{-1.86/29 32} 14. Bg2 {-1.31/34 66} f6 {-1.41/33 133 (Jd7)} 15. Bf4 {-1.11/30
23} Nc6 {-1.50/31 57} 16. O-O {-1.10/33 50} O-O-O {-1.48/28 24} 17. Na3 {-1.03/
32 41} Kb8 {-1.55/30 50} 18. Rae1 {-1.04/32 35} Rdg8 {-1.44/28 22 (Sc8)} 19.
Re3 {-0.84/27 31 (Jc4)} Qf7 {-1.31/29 30} 20. Rxg3 {-0.69/28 67} Ne7 {-1.34/27
23} 21. c4 {-0.37/29 23} Ng6 {-1.27/28 22} 22. e5 {-0.48/30 28} dxe5 {-1.29/28
41 (Jxf4)} 23. Rb3 {0.00/30 34} Bc8 {-1.47/27 15 (c6)} 24. Bg3 {0.00/34 19} Bh6
{-1.51/29 29} 25. Qb4 {0.00/36 25} Qe7 {-1.82/27 17 (Jf4)} 26. c5 {1.56/28 21}
e4 {0.58/28 98} 27. Qa5 {1.61/30 15} Ne5 {1.08/31 75 (Jf4)} 28. dxe5 {2.97/27
18} f5 {2.08/30 40 (Vxg3)} 29. Nc2 {3.44/31 35} Rg6 {3.06/29 101 (Sf8)} 30. Nb4
{4.84/28 25 (Jd4)} Bd2 {5.11/29 104} 31. Nd5 {5.34/31 25} Qg7 {5.68/31 28} 32.
Qxd2 {5.32/32 22} 1-0[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Blic:15'+10""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "78"]
[White "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Black "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C37"]
[Annotator "-1.01;-1.36"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=29.8 plies; 6 442kN/s; 205
849 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=30.3 plies; 4 920kN/s; 2 004 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg
} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. f4 {B 0} exf4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 4. d4 {B 0}
g5 {B 0} 5. h4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 6. g3 {B 0} g4 {B 0} 7. Nh2 {B 0} fxg3 {B 0} 8.
Nxg4 {B 0} d6 {B 0 Oba mimo knihovnu} 9. c3 {-1.01/28 41} Nf6 {-1.36/30 33} 10.
Nxf6+ {-1.18/31 104 (Je3)} Qxf6 {-1.48/32 72} 11. Qe2 {-1.28/31 54 (Se3)} c5 {
-1.49/29 24} 12. dxc5 {-1.56/31 56} Nc6 {-1.49/31 23} 13. Be3 {-1.20/30 29} h5
{-1.65/30 39} 14. Qg2 {-1.34/30 42 (Sg5)} Bg4 {-1.72/32 58} 15. Bg5 {-1.83/30
107 (Dxg3)} Qg6 {-2.03/30 54} 16. Nd2 {-1.80/27 18} f6 {-2.12/32 44} 17. Bf4 {
-1.47/26 17} O-O-O {-2.22/31 19} 18. cxd6 {-1.49/32 69 (Se2)} Bh6 {-3.01/31 58}
19. Qxg3 {-1.36/33 29 (Sxh6)} Ne5 {-3.53/32 43 (Sxf4)} 20. Bxh6 {-0.90/29 13}
Qxh6 {-3.37/31 25} 21. Nc4 {-2.58/29 37} Nf3+ {-3.89/31 28} 22. Kf2 {-2.76/29
25} f5 {-4.01/31 28} 23. Be2 {-3.16/32 144 (exf5)} fxe4 {-4.14/30 20} 24. Rad1
{-3.40/31 45 (Vhd1)} Rd7 {-5.94/28 29 (Vhf8)} 25. Ne3 {-5.47/28 41} Rf8 {-6.60/
28 21} 26. Nxg4 {-5.22/29 14} hxg4 {-7.01/26 20} 0-1[/pgn]
Next Revenge 3 - Ethereal 13.75
GUI D-Rybka3/F11, book C30-39-LC0.ctg (normal, min=3, max depth=8), 6cpu (AMD Ryzen5 4500U).
+21=78-1 +-70ELO
games
There was also one embarrassing loss for both colours. The king's safety failed.
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Blic:15'+10""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "77"]
[White "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C37"]
[Annotator "-1.20;-1.34"]
[PlyCount "63"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=30.8 plies; 5 092kN/s; 1
495 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=29.0 plies; 6 491kN/s; 88 990 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg
} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. f4 {B 0} exf4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 4. d4 {B 0}
g5 {B 0} 5. h4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 6. g3 {B 0} g4 {B 0} 7. Nh2 {B 0} fxg3 {B 0} 8.
Nxg4 {B 0} d6 {B 0 Both whitout book} 9. c3 {-1.20/29 27} Nf6 {-1.34/27 34} 10.
Nxf6+ {-1.21/31 58 (Je3)} Qxf6 {-1.23/28 27} 11. Be3 {-1.32/34 48} h5 {-1.78/
30 30} 12. Qd2 {-1.33/31 23} Bg4 {-1.64/30 27} 13. Bg5 {-1.37/33 24 (Sg2)} Qg6
{-1.86/29 32} 14. Bg2 {-1.31/34 66} f6 {-1.41/33 133 (Jd7)} 15. Bf4 {-1.11/30
23} Nc6 {-1.50/31 57} 16. O-O {-1.10/33 50} O-O-O {-1.48/28 24} 17. Na3 {-1.03/
32 41} Kb8 {-1.55/30 50} 18. Rae1 {-1.04/32 35} Rdg8 {-1.44/28 22 (Sc8)} 19.
Re3 {-0.84/27 31 (Jc4)} Qf7 {-1.31/29 30} 20. Rxg3 {-0.69/28 67} Ne7 {-1.34/27
23} 21. c4 {-0.37/29 23} Ng6 {-1.27/28 22} 22. e5 {-0.48/30 28} dxe5 {-1.29/28
41 (Jxf4)} 23. Rb3 {0.00/30 34} Bc8 {-1.47/27 15 (c6)} 24. Bg3 {0.00/34 19} Bh6
{-1.51/29 29} 25. Qb4 {0.00/36 25} Qe7 {-1.82/27 17 (Jf4)} 26. c5 {1.56/28 21}
e4 {0.58/28 98} 27. Qa5 {1.61/30 15} Ne5 {1.08/31 75 (Jf4)} 28. dxe5 {2.97/27
18} f5 {2.08/30 40 (Vxg3)} 29. Nc2 {3.44/31 35} Rg6 {3.06/29 101 (Sf8)} 30. Nb4
{4.84/28 25 (Jd4)} Bd2 {5.11/29 104} 31. Nd5 {5.34/31 25} Qg7 {5.68/31 28} 32.
Qxd2 {5.32/32 22} 1-0[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "Test-KG, Blic:15'+10""]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2022.07.09"]
[Round "78"]
[White "Ethereal 13.75"]
[Black "K-Dragon 3x64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C37"]
[Annotator "-1.01;-1.36"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[TimeControl "900+10"]
{AMD Ryzen 5 4500U with Radeon Graphics W=29.8 plies; 6 442kN/s; 205
849 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg B=30.3 plies; 4 920kN/s; 2 004 TBAs; C30-39-LC0.ctg
} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 0} 2. f4 {B 0} exf4 {B 0} 3. Nf3 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 4. d4 {B 0}
g5 {B 0} 5. h4 {B 0} Bg7 {B 0} 6. g3 {B 0} g4 {B 0} 7. Nh2 {B 0} fxg3 {B 0} 8.
Nxg4 {B 0} d6 {B 0 Oba mimo knihovnu} 9. c3 {-1.01/28 41} Nf6 {-1.36/30 33} 10.
Nxf6+ {-1.18/31 104 (Je3)} Qxf6 {-1.48/32 72} 11. Qe2 {-1.28/31 54 (Se3)} c5 {
-1.49/29 24} 12. dxc5 {-1.56/31 56} Nc6 {-1.49/31 23} 13. Be3 {-1.20/30 29} h5
{-1.65/30 39} 14. Qg2 {-1.34/30 42 (Sg5)} Bg4 {-1.72/32 58} 15. Bg5 {-1.83/30
107 (Dxg3)} Qg6 {-2.03/30 54} 16. Nd2 {-1.80/27 18} f6 {-2.12/32 44} 17. Bf4 {
-1.47/26 17} O-O-O {-2.22/31 19} 18. cxd6 {-1.49/32 69 (Se2)} Bh6 {-3.01/31 58}
19. Qxg3 {-1.36/33 29 (Sxh6)} Ne5 {-3.53/32 43 (Sxf4)} 20. Bxh6 {-0.90/29 13}
Qxh6 {-3.37/31 25} 21. Nc4 {-2.58/29 37} Nf3+ {-3.89/31 28} 22. Kf2 {-2.76/29
25} f5 {-4.01/31 28} 23. Be2 {-3.16/32 144 (exf5)} fxe4 {-4.14/30 20} 24. Rad1
{-3.40/31 45 (Vhd1)} Rd7 {-5.94/28 29 (Vhf8)} 25. Ne3 {-5.47/28 41} Rf8 {-6.60/
28 21} 26. Nxg4 {-5.22/29 14} hxg4 {-7.01/26 20} 0-1[/pgn]
Next Revenge 3 - Ethereal 13.75
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Rubinus
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Re: C30-39
Revenge 3 - Ethereal 13.75 4:12=84 (46%, +-28)
As the unity-book test has already shown, crooked positions are worse for Revenge.
games
As the unity-book test has already shown, crooked positions are worse for Revenge.
games
Last edited by Rubinus on Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: C30-39
Rebel 15x2 - Ethereal 13.75 1:40=59 (30.5%, +-143)
I accidentally downloaded the not-quite-latest version of Rebel. The only win was the time overrun.
games
Next: Rebel 15.1 - Ethereal 13.75
I accidentally downloaded the not-quite-latest version of Rebel. The only win was the time overrun.
games
Next: Rebel 15.1 - Ethereal 13.75