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AndrewGrant wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:46 pm
towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:38 pm He was on my ignore list because he said too many things that just weren't right.

He recently told us that he has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, which is a progressive memory disorder. Other people I have known with progressive memory disorders also said things that, to use my own expression, "just weren't right", so this fits.

So it is likely that when he did something that the moderation team had told him not to do, it was due to not remembering having been told to not do it.
I will say that this is very sad if it is the case, and is not a perspective that I had considered.
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Calamities. We will no longer be able to attend his master classes of righteous doctrine. I take this moment to remember one of the golden members of this forum, chessquak, friend of animals and beneficial senescence. We are losing great exponents, as were the wanderings of Dr. Aude and his exciting vanguards in dimension 3072, or the contempt of Eduard, a fierce dissident of Stockfish and his totalitarian aurora. I think we are losing our critical voice, purging anyone who doesn't adhere to the main stream. Woe is me. I'm supposed to stand by with my balls crossed while the reference forum in chess becomes an echo chamber? Heresies! This has been the common home of weirdos, schizos and geezers, a magna neural net with purulent nodules and pissing trees. We're left with AGE, a curious marsupial poking its little tail out of the Stockfish lands, only to run off because a beardless goggle took its snack. Rebel, a meme from 2014. And last but not least, an autumnal scholar who ascended from scientific papers to hygienic papers that real engine devs don't even deign to rinse their crack with.
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towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:38 pm He was on my ignore list because he said too many things that just weren't right.

He recently told us that he has been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, which is a progressive memory disorder. Other people I have known with progressive memory disorders also said things that, to use my own expression, "just weren't right", so this fits.

So it is likely that when he did something that the moderation team had told him not to do, it was due to not remembering having been told to not do it.
This is not a moderation issue, but an ethical one. It is extremely dangerous to speculate on the existence or not of serious mental health issues. Speculation on personality defects is one thing (the person concerned can do something about it if true), but actual degenerative disease is another, and tarring someone (you are not a psychologist) in this somewhat gossipy way is not acceptable in civilised discourse.
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chrisw wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:06 pmThis is not a moderation issue, but an ethical one. It is extremely dangerous to speculate on the existence or not of serious mental health issues. Speculation on personality defects is one thing (the person concerned can do something about it if true), but actual degenerative disease is another, and tarring someone (you are not a psychologist) in this somewhat gossipy way is not acceptable in civilised discourse.

I am not a psychologist, and I haven't even read his posts from the viewpoint of assessing the quality of his memory. However, given that he has said he has Alzheimer's several times, (link), it's reasonable to say that he has said that he has it.
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towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:43 pm
chrisw wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:06 pmThis is not a moderation issue, but an ethical one. It is extremely dangerous to speculate on the existence or not of serious mental health issues. Speculation on personality defects is one thing (the person concerned can do something about it if true), but actual degenerative disease is another, and tarring someone (you are not a psychologist) in this somewhat gossipy way is not acceptable in civilised discourse.

I am not a psychologist, and I haven't even read his posts from the viewpoint of assessing the quality of his memory. However, given that he has said he has Alzheimer's several times, (link), it's reasonable to say that he has said that he has it.
You said DIAGNOSED with. Nowhere has he said that. Many people use Alzheimers as en passent joke response to forgetting something, your google examples are irrelevent and ridiculous. It is a serious smear on another member (especially when thy are no longer here to defend themselves) to claim they are DIAGNOSED Alzheimers when you have only some very poor 1-dimensional evidence that could mean anything. Gossip is your thing, go to the kindergarden Forum.
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towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:43 pm However, given that he has said he has Alzheimer's several times, it's reasonable to say that he has said that he has it.
He also said his name was "Nancy Pritchard" for years too.
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BrendanJNorman wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:16 pm
towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:43 pm However, given that he has said he has Alzheimer's several times, it's reasonable to say that he has said that he has it.
He also said his name was "Nancy Pritchard" for years too.
I asked towforce's favourite source, ChatGPT, and got the response:

No, a lay person should not publicly state that someone else on a forum has Alzheimer's. Here are the reasons why:

Privacy and Respect: Publicly discussing someone’s health condition without their consent is a violation of their privacy and can be deeply disrespectful. This kind of information is personal and sensitive.

Risk of Inaccuracy: Alzheimer's is a complex medical condition that can only be diagnosed by a qualified healthcare professional after thorough examination. A lay person lacks the expertise to make such a diagnosis, especially based on limited information from forum interactions.

Stigma and Discrimination: Labeling someone with Alzheimer's can contribute to stigma and discrimination. This can lead to the person being unfairly treated or isolated by others.

Potential Harm: Publicly stating that someone has Alzheimer's can cause unnecessary distress, anxiety, and confusion for the individual and their loved ones. It can damage their reputation and personal relationships.

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chrisw wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 5:40 pm
towforce wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:43 pm
chrisw wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:06 pmThis is not a moderation issue, but an ethical one. It is extremely dangerous to speculate on the existence or not of serious mental health issues. Speculation on personality defects is one thing (the person concerned can do something about it if true), but actual degenerative disease is another, and tarring someone (you are not a psychologist) in this somewhat gossipy way is not acceptable in civilised discourse.

I am not a psychologist, and I haven't even read his posts from the viewpoint of assessing the quality of his memory. However, given that he has said he has Alzheimer's several times, (link), it's reasonable to say that he has said that he has it.
You said DIAGNOSED with. Nowhere has he said that. Many people use Alzheimers as en passent joke response to forgetting something, your google examples are irrelevent and ridiculous. It is a serious smear on another member (especially when thy are no longer here to defend themselves) to claim they are DIAGNOSED Alzheimers when you have only some very poor 1-dimensional evidence that could mean anything. Gossip is your thing, go to the kindergarden Forum.

It is true that he didn't say that he'd been diagnosed with Alzheimer's, but when people say that they have it, and it's not a quip in response to having forgotten something, that usually means that they have been diagnosed with it. Obviously I have no evidence of him having it apart from the fact that he said he had it.
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chrisw wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:23 pmI asked towforce's favourite source, ChatGPT...

Excuse me?
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