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by smatovic
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?
Replies: 8
Views: 493

Re: UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?

Luckily moral standards are, as the name suggests, standards which are widely accepted in the chess community. And I think one needs to distinguish between moral standards and legal standards. In case of Koivisto, what could there possibly be for us to add to our GPL? @Milos: I am not a lawyer. 1. ...
by smatovic
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:18 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?
Replies: 8
Views: 493

Re: UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?

It was not supposed to be offensive. You are free to do with your engine whatever you like. But the points given, I see that there are moral standards on top of what the GPL covers. These moral standards are not unique to the Kovisto team. If different kind of teams intend to set up their own kind o...
by smatovic
Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:54 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?
Replies: 8
Views: 493

UEAL - Unique Engine Authors License?

From the ChessBase thread: It feels like many people here dont understand the difference between whats legal and what is allowed. The legal part is decided by official courts where as what is allowed is decided by the chess community. Especially the unique engine authors, tcec etc. According to comm...
by smatovic
Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:10 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

It feels like many people here dont understand the difference between whats legal and what is allowed. The legal part is decided by official courts where as what is allowed is decided by the chess community. Especially the unique engine authors, tcec etc. According to common chess community standar...
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

hgm wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:22 pm
Is 'giving credit' a condition of the GPL?
That is the interesting part ;)

***edit***
I am genuine clueless how a judge in court would rule about the thing with the FF2 AUTHORS file.

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Srdja
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:16 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

... I suppose there still are the issues of: 1) Whether a NN is a computer program, and the weights are the corresponding machine code. 2) Whether this program counts as linked with a conventional executable when the latter uses the output of the NN it interprets for further calculation 3) What wou...
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

snip...
Guenther wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:35 pm
......only intentionally blind ones won't see the source theft...
That is exactly my point.

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Srdja
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

Alright, there was a prev thread about Vas and the ICGA, one point was, there was no team red, may I ask, does your team blue has an team red for your 'investigation'. The past (even going back to the 80's) has shown that clones / derivatives are easily detected and that programmers are in consensu...
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:35 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

Raphexon wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:33 am
"Stealing is only illegal the moment the judge strikes down their hammer"

Great argument!
Hmm, you tell me to read GPLv3, and you mix up stealing with a license breach? Great argumentation.

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Srdja
by smatovic
Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:14 am
Forum: Computer Chess Club: General Topics
Topic: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase
Replies: 247
Views: 9574

Re: Stockfish: Our lawsuit against ChessBase

So the answer is no, there was no team red.

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Srdja