Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

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Father
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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by Father »

lkaufman wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:17 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:43 pm
frcha wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:24 pm
That's not easy to do, but it is not a chess skill, just knowing how to keep the game blocked up and moving very fast with lots of pre-moving.
Thats what I normally say about those who beat me in bullet! - I can't stand playing bullet - i managed about 1600+ at lichess and 1300+ on chess.com but I prefer to play slower blitz 5+ 3 or 5+5.

I found yet another win against stockfish level 8 - a whole video by Jonathan Schrantz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2P6VUYu78&t=322s

This one should be of interest in the realm of anti-computer chess as well.
Do you know the speed of Stockfish Level 8 running speed on web Lichess server? (around 3000 elo).
It probably be 1/1000 speed of the computer running on 64-128 cores cpu in playchess where father played. (3600-3700 elo)
Do not assume all stockfish are running the same strength.

Winning strategy by mediocre online 2300 blitz rated human against mediocre server stockfish is quite useless against full strength Stockfish.
While true, I think this misses the point. Even on one thread on any plausible computer, Stockfish taking one second per move will beat any human in blitz. It is losing only because it is taking one second per move and after 60 moves "thinks" time is up, and does something silly as a result. Even 128 cores won't change that. That level just isn't intended for one minute or faster bullet chess, it must have a one second increment plus the minute or half minute, or else at least two minutes, to play a 100 move game taking one second per move. I'll be surprised if any human has won a single game (without cheating) against Stockfish Lichess level 8 using at least a one second increment to allow that level to work as programmed.
Larry,

Your ideas, GM Larry Kaufman your words have been another inspiration for me; the machine has resigned itself to cyber madness. Stockfish has gone berserk in the face of approaches inspired by the legendary and great World Champion: "Lasker."
I defeated the machine on the stage by you raised, with a game increase of one second per movement. The machine has died of a sudden heart attack. Resignó por si misma. :shock:
Respectfully,
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo


[pgn][Event "Casual Bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/cBZpxxpj"]
[Date "2021.08.04"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "lichess AI level 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.08.04"]
[UTCTime "20:26:39"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e3 { D00 Queen's Pawn Game } e6 3. c3 Nf6 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 c5 7. Bd3 Nc6 8. O-O Ne7 9. Qe2 b6 10. Re1 Bb7 11. Ba6 Bxa6 12. Qxa6 Nf5 13. g3 Be7 14. Nbd2 Ng4 15. Nf1 Nd6 16. Qd3 c4 17. Qc2 a5 18. Re2 a4 19. Bd2 Nf6 20. Be1 b5 21. Qc1 h6 22. Rg2 h5 23. Qd1 g6 24. h4 Kg7 25. Qe2 Ng4 26. N3h2 Nf6 27. Nf3 Qc7 28. Kh1 Rad8 29. Kg1 Ng4 30. N3h2 f5 31. Nf3 Bf6 32. Kh1 Rf7 33. Kg1 Kh7 34. Kh1 Ne4 35. Kg1 Kg8 36. Kh1 Rh7 37. Kg1 Nd6 38. Kh1 Rf7 39. Kg1 Ne4 40. Kh1 Qe7 41. Kg1 Kh7 42. Kh1 Kg8 43. Kg1 Rd7 44. Kh1 Qe8 45. Kg1 Kh7 46. Kh1 Kg8 47. Kg1 Rc7 48. Kh1 Rf8 49. Kg1 Qd7 50. Kh1 Qc6 51. Kg1 Rff7 52. Kh1 Rf8 53. Kg1 Rh7 54. Kh1 Ra7 55. Kg1 Qd7 56. Kh1 Bg7 57. Kg1 Rfa8 58. Kh1 Qd6 59. Kg1 Rb8 60. Kh1 Qd7 61. Kg1 Qb7 62. Kh1 Qc6 63. Kg1 Bf6 64. Kh1 Rba8 65. Kg1 Re8 66. Kh1 Qd7 67. Kg1 Rea8 68. Kh1 Rf8 69. Kg1 Rfa8 70. Kh1 Rb8 71. Kg1 Kg7 72. Kh1 Kg8 73. Kg1 Rd8 74. Kh1 Bg7 75. Kg1 Re8 76. Kh1 Re7 77. Kg1 Bf6 78. Kh1 Qe8 79. Kg1 Rab7 80. Kh1 b4 81. axb4 Ra7 82. Ra3 Reb7 83. Kg1 Kg7 84. Kh1 Qc6 85. Kg1 Ra8 86. Kh1 Rba7 87. Kg1 Qc7 88. Kh1 Qd7 89. Kg1 Qc7 90. Kh1 Nd6 91. Kg1 Nb5 92. Kh1 Nxa3 93. bxa3 Rf8 94. Kg1 Qd7 95. Kh1 Rb7 96. Kg1 Rbb8 97. Kh1 Kg8 98. Kg1 Kg7 99. Kh1 Rfe8 100. Kg1 Rb7 101. N3h2 Nh6 102. Qd2 Nf7 103. Kh1 Nd6 104. Kg1 Kh7 105. Qc2 Ra8 106. Nd2 Rf8 107. Nb1 Rf7 108. Nf3 Rc7 109. Kh1 Kg8 110. Kg1 Ne4 111. Kh1 Kh7 112. Kg1 Rb7 113. Kh1 Rg7 114. Kg1 Rg8 115. Kh1 Rgb8 116. Kg1 Rf8 117. Kh1 Qc8 118. Kg1 Qd7 119. Kh1 Bg7 120. Kg1 Qb5 121. Kh1 Qc6 122. Kg1 Qb6 123. Kh1 Re8 124. Kg1 Rbe7 125. Kh1 Qc6 126. Kg1 Qb6 127. Kh1 Rf8 128. Kg1 Rd7 129. Kh1 Re7 130. Kg1 Rff7 131. Kh1 Re8 132. Kg1 Rd8 133. Rh2 Rb7 134. Ng5+ Nxg5 135. hxg5 Kg8 136. Rh4 Qb5 137. Bd2 Kf7 138. Qd1 Ke7 139. Qf1 Kd7 140. Kg2 Bf8 141. Qe1 Kc8 142. Kg1 Bd6 143. Kh2 Qc6 144. Kh3 Kc7 145. Kh2 Kb6 146. Qf2 Qd7 147. Kh3 Qc6 148. Kh2 Re8 149. Kh3 Rh7 150. Kh2 Kb7 151. Kh3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by lkaufman »

Father wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:47 pm
lkaufman wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 10:17 pm
Nay Lin Tun wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:43 pm
frcha wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:24 pm
That's not easy to do, but it is not a chess skill, just knowing how to keep the game blocked up and moving very fast with lots of pre-moving.
Thats what I normally say about those who beat me in bullet! - I can't stand playing bullet - i managed about 1600+ at lichess and 1300+ on chess.com but I prefer to play slower blitz 5+ 3 or 5+5.

I found yet another win against stockfish level 8 - a whole video by Jonathan Schrantz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2P6VUYu78&t=322s

This one should be of interest in the realm of anti-computer chess as well.
Do you know the speed of Stockfish Level 8 running speed on web Lichess server? (around 3000 elo).
It probably be 1/1000 speed of the computer running on 64-128 cores cpu in playchess where father played. (3600-3700 elo)
Do not assume all stockfish are running the same strength.

Winning strategy by mediocre online 2300 blitz rated human against mediocre server stockfish is quite useless against full strength Stockfish.
While true, I think this misses the point. Even on one thread on any plausible computer, Stockfish taking one second per move will beat any human in blitz. It is losing only because it is taking one second per move and after 60 moves "thinks" time is up, and does something silly as a result. Even 128 cores won't change that. That level just isn't intended for one minute or faster bullet chess, it must have a one second increment plus the minute or half minute, or else at least two minutes, to play a 100 move game taking one second per move. I'll be surprised if any human has won a single game (without cheating) against Stockfish Lichess level 8 using at least a one second increment to allow that level to work as programmed.
Larry,

Your ideas, GM Larry Kaufman your words have been another inspiration for me; the machine has resigned itself to cyber madness. Stockfish has gone berserk in the face of approaches inspired by the legendary and great World Champion: "Lasker."
I defeated the machine on the stage by you raised, with a game increase of one second per movement. The machine has died of a sudden heart attack. Resignó por si misma. :shock:
Respectfully,
Pablo Ignacio Restrepo


[pgn][Event "Casual Bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/cBZpxxpj"]
[Date "2021.08.04"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "lichess AI level 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.08.04"]
[UTCTime "20:26:39"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[ECO "D00"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e3 { D00 Queen's Pawn Game } e6 3. c3 Nf6 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 c5 7. Bd3 Nc6 8. O-O Ne7 9. Qe2 b6 10. Re1 Bb7 11. Ba6 Bxa6 12. Qxa6 Nf5 13. g3 Be7 14. Nbd2 Ng4 15. Nf1 Nd6 16. Qd3 c4 17. Qc2 a5 18. Re2 a4 19. Bd2 Nf6 20. Be1 b5 21. Qc1 h6 22. Rg2 h5 23. Qd1 g6 24. h4 Kg7 25. Qe2 Ng4 26. N3h2 Nf6 27. Nf3 Qc7 28. Kh1 Rad8 29. Kg1 Ng4 30. N3h2 f5 31. Nf3 Bf6 32. Kh1 Rf7 33. Kg1 Kh7 34. Kh1 Ne4 35. Kg1 Kg8 36. Kh1 Rh7 37. Kg1 Nd6 38. Kh1 Rf7 39. Kg1 Ne4 40. Kh1 Qe7 41. Kg1 Kh7 42. Kh1 Kg8 43. Kg1 Rd7 44. Kh1 Qe8 45. Kg1 Kh7 46. Kh1 Kg8 47. Kg1 Rc7 48. Kh1 Rf8 49. Kg1 Qd7 50. Kh1 Qc6 51. Kg1 Rff7 52. Kh1 Rf8 53. Kg1 Rh7 54. Kh1 Ra7 55. Kg1 Qd7 56. Kh1 Bg7 57. Kg1 Rfa8 58. Kh1 Qd6 59. Kg1 Rb8 60. Kh1 Qd7 61. Kg1 Qb7 62. Kh1 Qc6 63. Kg1 Bf6 64. Kh1 Rba8 65. Kg1 Re8 66. Kh1 Qd7 67. Kg1 Rea8 68. Kh1 Rf8 69. Kg1 Rfa8 70. Kh1 Rb8 71. Kg1 Kg7 72. Kh1 Kg8 73. Kg1 Rd8 74. Kh1 Bg7 75. Kg1 Re8 76. Kh1 Re7 77. Kg1 Bf6 78. Kh1 Qe8 79. Kg1 Rab7 80. Kh1 b4 81. axb4 Ra7 82. Ra3 Reb7 83. Kg1 Kg7 84. Kh1 Qc6 85. Kg1 Ra8 86. Kh1 Rba7 87. Kg1 Qc7 88. Kh1 Qd7 89. Kg1 Qc7 90. Kh1 Nd6 91. Kg1 Nb5 92. Kh1 Nxa3 93. bxa3 Rf8 94. Kg1 Qd7 95. Kh1 Rb7 96. Kg1 Rbb8 97. Kh1 Kg8 98. Kg1 Kg7 99. Kh1 Rfe8 100. Kg1 Rb7 101. N3h2 Nh6 102. Qd2 Nf7 103. Kh1 Nd6 104. Kg1 Kh7 105. Qc2 Ra8 106. Nd2 Rf8 107. Nb1 Rf7 108. Nf3 Rc7 109. Kh1 Kg8 110. Kg1 Ne4 111. Kh1 Kh7 112. Kg1 Rb7 113. Kh1 Rg7 114. Kg1 Rg8 115. Kh1 Rgb8 116. Kg1 Rf8 117. Kh1 Qc8 118. Kg1 Qd7 119. Kh1 Bg7 120. Kg1 Qb5 121. Kh1 Qc6 122. Kg1 Qb6 123. Kh1 Re8 124. Kg1 Rbe7 125. Kh1 Qc6 126. Kg1 Qb6 127. Kh1 Rf8 128. Kg1 Rd7 129. Kh1 Re7 130. Kg1 Rff7 131. Kh1 Re8 132. Kg1 Rd8 133. Rh2 Rb7 134. Ng5+ Nxg5 135. hxg5 Kg8 136. Rh4 Qb5 137. Bd2 Kf7 138. Qd1 Ke7 139. Qf1 Kd7 140. Kg2 Bf8 141. Qe1 Kc8 142. Kg1 Bd6 143. Kh2 Qc6 144. Kh3 Kc7 145. Kh2 Kb6 146. Qf2 Qd7 147. Kh3 Qc6 148. Kh2 Re8 149. Kh3 Rh7 150. Kh2 Kb7 151. Kh3 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]
Since Black is still much better at the end and time wasn't a factor, my guess is that it was programmed to resign after 150 moves. I suppose this is something Lichess did, not Stockfish. It seems rather foolish to me. You are revealing poor decisions made by or for Lichess, not actually Stockfish problems I think.
Komodo rules!
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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by frcha »

But is SF going to win from this position if it does not resign? - it seems to be just shuffling pieces.
Father
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Thanks "Hardmoves" for the game.

Post by Father »

Nay Lin Tun wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 7:43 pm
frcha wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:24 pm
That's not easy to do, but it is not a chess skill, just knowing how to keep the game blocked up and moving very fast with lots of pre-moving.
Thats what I normally say about those who beat me in bullet! - I can't stand playing bullet - i managed about 1600+ at lichess and 1300+ on chess.com but I prefer to play slower blitz 5+ 3 or 5+5.

I found yet another win against stockfish level 8 - a whole video by Jonathan Schrantz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC2P6VUYu78&t=322s

This one should be of interest in the realm of anti-computer chess as well.
Do you know the speed of Stockfish Level 8 running speed on web Lichess server? (around 3000 elo).
It probably be 1/1000 speed of the computer running on 64-128 cores cpu in playchess where father played. (3600-3700 elo)
Do not assume all stockfish are running the same strength.

Winning strategy by mediocre online 2300 blitz rated human against mediocre server stockfish is quite useless against full strength Stockfish.
The biggest battles I have ever had against computers, without a doubt, have taken place inside the ring of the game engine room. There I have been allowed to fight against countless super softwares and hardwares for close to 20 years. There I have met many fighters, operated within the computers of their owners and administrators. Fritz, Junior, Shredder, Hiarcs, Rybka, Hoduini, Komodo, Stcokfish, the legendary Hydra, and many more have given me many, many beatings. In the first years my performance was really very good even in long-time control, above 40%, and I even got to be at the top. But everything began to change with Rybka, and the years that followed, becoming increasingly difficult to achieve good results. The stone wall has fallen and fell into pieces again, but still, I have collected and collected and rebuilt the wall many times without giving up any falls. Now with artificial intelligence it is assumed that everything is over and that we are lost. But I have begun to realize that the matter is not that simple. The positions of each sector of the wall are beginning to be understood more and more every day, and the cracks in the wall, I would believe that they could not be repaired. Despite the great middleweights Tiger and Quark who with their algorithms annihilated the wall, I was able to verify that the fight continues. The truth is that creative thinking and the syntheses of repetition have allowed the stone wall to have validity even today and that artificial intelligence finds difficulties in the face of the stubbornness of burricos like me, who insist on loading our luggage in the loin. The truth: I am not afraid of the artificial intelligence of chess, and I feel that I am beginning to understand it little by little on this uphill road. The following game is a tribute to the strength of AI and token of appreciation to playchess and its users and to all the people who build, have built and will build software and hardware.

Stockfish 040821 14 (6 cores): 28.1 plies; 8.976kN/s AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor 3775MHz, (12 cores, 24 threads) Opponent closed game window

I wish long life and prosperity to playchess to stockfish to talkchess and to all of you. Only the united world will be able to overcome difficulties, solidarity is welcome in order to overcome the harsh tests that we are suffering as a human race.

Best regards,

Pablo

Thanks "Hardmoves" for the game.

[pgn][Event "Rated game, 5 min"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2021.08.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Hardmoves"]
[Black "Grand-Father"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A90"]
[WhiteElo "2714"]
[BlackElo "2029"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2021.08.04"]
[SourceTitle "playchess.com"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. c4 {B 0} f5 {2} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nf6 {1} 3. d4 {B 0} e6 {0} 4. g3 {B 0} c6 {0}
5. Bg2 {B 0} d5 {0} 6. O-O {B 0} Bd6 {0} 7. Ne5 {B 0} O-O {1} 8. Nd2 {0.62/31
28} Re8 {3 (b6)} 9. Ndf3 {0.95/25 4} Qe7 {3 (Nbd7)} 10. Bf4 {1.15/28 11} Nbd7 {
4 (dxc4)} 11. Rc1 {1.23/29 4} Bb8 {1 (Bxe5)} 12. Re1 {1.33/33 17} Kf8 {4 (Nxe5)
} 13. h4 {1.66/32 23} Kg8 {2 (Nxe5)} 14. Nd3 {1.79/27 4} Nh5 {3 (Bxf4)} 15.
Bxb8 {8} Nxb8 {2.32/30 0 (Rxb8)} 16. b4 {2.31/26 3} a6 {2 (Nf6)} 17. a4 {
2.37/31 17} g6 {4 (Nf6)} 18. Qb3 {2.91/27 11} Kg7 {3 (Qd8)} 19. Rc2 {3.66/27 6}
Nd7 {4} 20. b5 {3.85/31 2} Nb8 {3 (axb5)} 21. bxc6 {4.92/29 6} bxc6 {7 (Nxc6)}
22. a5 {6.14/23 3} Qb7 {9 (Qd8)} 23. Qxb7+ {7.22/25 2} Bxb7 {1} 24. cxd5 {
7.38/26 1} exd5 {5} 25. Rb1 {7.55/29 0} Re7 {3 (Bc8)} 26. Rcb2 {8.63/26 4} Ra7
{1} 27. Nc5 {8.76/26 2 Grand-Father resigns (Lag: Av=0.61s, max=2.3s)} 1-0

[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
lkaufman
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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by lkaufman »

frcha wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 1:31 am But is SF going to win from this position if it does not resign? - it seems to be just shuffling pieces.
Probably not; "father" has already shown that he can sometimes draw with Stockfish because it allows the position to be so blocked up that a win becomes impossible. I'm just pointing out that so far all wins by him have apparently been due to Lichess issues, either because the time limit was less than enough for the one second per move level 8 chosen, or in this case because it has apparently been programmed to resign after 150 moves; perhaps Lichess felt that if someone lasts that long he deserves a reward! I'm pretty sure that if he plays against Komodo dragon, even on one core with a short depth limit like 12 plies so as to take under a tenth of a second per move, as long as Contempt is set to a high value like 100 he should never get even a single draw at any time limit. But Stockfish doesn't seem to be aware of the blockade danger or have a setting to thwart it.
Komodo rules!
Father
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…the litlle door

Post by Father »


I think it was understood that every lock should
leave a small penetration fissure to be open otherwise the door would have to be knocked down ... I wonder ..: the wisdom does not indicate us that this same principle should be applied to artificial intelligence?
jmartus wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:09 pm Is he able to beat these new generation of chess engines?
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I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Father
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 am
Location: Colombia
Full name: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

Post by Father »

[Event "Casual Bullet game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/OwSueMXF"]
[Date "2021.09.11"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "lichess AI level 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.09.11"]
[UTCTime "03:57:33"]
[WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "A45"]
[Opening "Indian Defense"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 { A45 Indian Defense } 2. e3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 b6 7. Bd3 Bb7 8. O-O c5 9. Re1 Nbd7 10. Qe2 Ne4 11. Ba6 Bxa6 12. Qxa6 Ndf6 13. Qd3 c4 14. Qc2 a5 15. Re2 Be7 16. Bd2 a4 17. Be1 Ne8 18. Nbd2 N8d6 19. Nf1 b5 20. g3 f5 21. Rg2 Bf6 22. Qe2 g6 23. Rc1 Bg7 24. Rc2 Ra7 25. h4 h5 26. Kh1 Qe8 27. Kg1 Nf6 28. Kh1 Nde4 29. Kg1 Ng4 30. Kh1 Qc6 31. Kg1 Rd7 32. Kh1 Rc8 33. Kg1 Qb6 34. Kh1 Bf6 35. Kg1 Rf8 36. Kh1 Rff7 37. Kg1 Rf8 38. Kh1 Re7 39. Kg1 Qc6 40. Kh1 Qe8 41. Kg1 Qd7 42. Kh1 Qc6 43. Kg1 Bg7 44. Kh1 Rb8 45. Kg1 Qd7 46. Kh1 Rf8 47. Kg1 Rb8 48. N3h2 Bf6 49. Nf3 Rb7 50. N3h2 Nxh2 51. Nxh2 Kh7 52. Nf1 Qc6 53. Kh1 Rb8 54. Kg1 Rf7 55. Kh1 Kg8 56. Kg1 Qb7 57. Kh1 Qd7 58. Kg1 Qc6 59. Kh2 Bg7 60. Kh1 Rc8 61. Kh2 Bh8 62. Kh1 Rb8 63. Kg1 Bf6 64. Kh2 Qc7 65. Kh1 Rb6 66. Kg1 Rh7 67. Kh1 Rb7 68. Kg1 Rg7 69. Kh1 Qb8 70. Kg1 Rb6 71. Kh1 b4 72. cxb4 c3 73. bxc3 e5 74. fxe5 f4 75. exf4 g5 76. hxg5 h4 77. gxh4 Nd2 78. Bxd2 Bxe5 79. fxe5 Rxb4 80. cxb4 Rxg5 81. Bxg5 Qxb4 82. axb4 a3 83. Rc7 a2 84. Qh5 a1=Q 85. Qh7+ Kf8 86. Qf7# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Where is Father famous anti computer chess player

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[pgn] [WhiteElo "2000"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+0"]
[ECO "A45"]
[Opening "Indian Defense"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 Nf6 { A45 Indian Defense } 2. e3 e6 3. c3 d5 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. a3 b6 7. Bd3 Bb7 8. O-O c5 9. Re1 Nbd7 10. Qe2 Ne4 11. Ba6 Bxa6 12. Qxa6 Ndf6 13. Qd3 c4 14. Qc2 a5 15. Re2 Be7 16. Bd2 a4 17. Be1 Ne8 18. Nbd2 N8d6 19. Nf1 b5 20. g3 f5 21. Rg2 Bf6 22. Qe2 g6 23. Rc1 Bg7 24. Rc2 Ra7 25. h4 h5 26. Kh1 Qe8 27. Kg1 Nf6 28. Kh1 Nde4 29. Kg1 Ng4 30. Kh1 Qc6 31. Kg1 Rd7 32. Kh1 Rc8 33. Kg1 Qb6 34. Kh1 Bf6 35. Kg1 Rf8 36. Kh1 Rff7 37. Kg1 Rf8 38. Kh1 Re7 39. Kg1 Qc6 40. Kh1 Qe8 41. Kg1 Qd7 42. Kh1 Qc6 43. Kg1 Bg7 44. Kh1 Rb8 45. Kg1 Qd7 46. Kh1 Rf8 47. Kg1 Rb8 48. N3h2 Bf6 49. Nf3 Rb7 50. N3h2 Nxh2 51. Nxh2 Kh7 52. Nf1 Qc6 53. Kh1 Rb8 54. Kg1 Rf7 55. Kh1 Kg8 56. Kg1 Qb7 57. Kh1 Qd7 58. Kg1 Qc6 59. Kh2 Bg7 60. Kh1 Rc8 61. Kh2 Bh8 62. Kh1 Rb8 63. Kg1 Bf6 64. Kh2 Qc7 65. Kh1 Rb6 66. Kg1 Rh7 67. Kh1 Rb7 68. Kg1 Rg7 69. Kh1 Qb8 70. Kg1 Rb6 71. Kh1 b4 72. cxb4 c3 73. bxc3 e5 74. fxe5 f4 75. exf4 g5 76. hxg5 h4 77. gxh4 Nd2 78. Bxd2 Bxe5 79. fxe5 Rxb4 80. cxb4 Rxg5 81. Bxg5 Qxb4 82. axb4 a3 83. Rc7 a2 84. Qh5 a1=Q 85. Qh7+ Kf8 86. Qf7# { White wins by checkmate. } 1-0[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
Father
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:39 am
Location: Colombia
Full name: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Do some chess machines suffer from delirium tremens? Grand-Father beats stockfish 14 at 1+5 in lichess.

Post by Father »

jmartus wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:09 pm Is he able to beat these new generation of chess engines?

Do some chess machines suffer from delirium tremens ?

Delirium tremens or trembling delirium is a form of disorder of our consciousness. It is a "confuctional scheme" that includes visions of objects, animals, or people.

The present chess game in time control of "1 + 5", in the long term produced "hallucinations to the Stockfish 14 computer" and the machine due to "extreme fatigue", "perhaps nervousness added to physical and emotional instability,anxiety, excessive sweating , irritability, and extreme excitement, nightmares, visions, hallucinations, temples, shakes and convulsions," , ill and resigned.

The psychological profile of chess computers is a reality. His or her creators decide what trend and what item or character the machine will have.

I will have a good beer to review and enjoy this victory to the machine, before continuing with new battles of man against machine.

Best tegards,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father & Grand-Father playchess engines room


[pgn][Event "Casual Blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/P1qpvuVZ"]
[Date "2021.09.12"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "lichess AI level 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.09.12"]
[UTCTime "13:39:58"]
[WhiteElo "1947"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+5"]
[ECO "D00"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e3 { D00 Queen's Pawn Game } e6 3. c3 Nf6 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 c5 6. a3 Nc6 7. Bd3 O-O 8. O-O b6 9. Qe2 Bb7 10. Ba6 Bxa6 11. Qxa6 c4 12. Qa4 Qc7 13. Qc2 b5 14. Re1 Ne4 15. Nbd2 f5 16. Nf1 a5 17. Bd2 Be7 18. Reb1 a4 19. Be1 h6 20. g3 Na5 21. Rc1 Nb3 22. Rab1 Nxc1 23. Rxc1 Bd6 24. Qd1 g5 25. Rc2 Qg7 26. Rg2 g4 27. Nh4 Be7 28. Qe2 Kh7 29. Kh1 Bxh4 30. gxh4 Qe7 31. Bg3 Qb7 32. Nd2 Nd6 33. Nb1 Qe7 34. Qe1 h5 35. Kg1 Rf7 36. Kh1 Rd8 37. Kg1 Kg6 38. Kh1 Rff8 39. Kg1 Qd7 40. Kh1 Rb8 41. Kg1 Qe7 42. Kh1 Rbd8 43. Kg1 Qc7 44. Kh1 Qd7 45. Kg1 Ne4 46. Kh1 Rf7 47. Kg1 Kf6 48. Kh1 Ke7 49. Kg1 Kd6 50. Kh1 Kc6 51. Kg1 Rh7 52. Kh1 Kb6 53. Kg1 Rf7 54. Kh1 Rff8 55. Kg1 Rh8 56. Kh1 Qe8 57. Kg1 Rd7 58. Kh1 Re7 59. Kg1 Qd7 60. Kh1 Ree8 61. Kg1 Rhg8 62. Kh1 Rd8 63. Kg1 Ra8 64. Kh1 Qf7 65. Kg1 Qc7 66. Kh1 Qd7 67. Kg1 Raf8 68. Kh1 Qf7 69. Kg1 Rg7 70. Kh1 Qd7 71. Kg1 Rb8 72. Kh1 Re8 73. Kg1 Ra8 74. Kh1 Qc6 75. Kg1 Raa7 76. Kh1 Rgc7 77. Kg1 Ra8 78. Kh1 Rf7 79. Kg1 Rb7 80. Kh1 Rab8 81. Kg1 b4 82. axb4 Ra8 83. Na3 Kc7 84. Kh1 Kd6 85. Kg1 Ke7 86. Kh1 Kf6 87. Kg1 Ke7 88. Kh1 Rb6 89. Kg1 Kf7 90. Kh1 Rbb8 91. Kg1 Kg7 92. Kh1 Re8 93. Kg1 Qd7 94. Kh1 Re7 95. Kg1 Ree8 96. Kh1 Nd6 97. Kg1 Nb5 98. Qc1 Kf6 99. Kh1 Ke7 100. Kg1 Kd6 101. Kh1 Ke7 102. Kg1 Reb8 103. Qe1 Kd6 104. Kh1 Kc6 105. Kg1 Kb6 106. Kh1 Kc7 107. Kg1 Kb6 108. Kh1 Kc6 109. Kg1 Kd6 110. Kh1 Kc7 111. Kg1 Kd8 112. Kh1 Ra7 113. Kg1 Kc7 114. Kh1 Kd6 115. Kg1 Nxa3 116. bxa3 Kc6 117. Rc2 Kd6 118. Qf2 Ke7 119. Kg2 Kd6 120. Kg1 Raa8 121. Kg2 Kc7 122. Qd2 Rg8 123. Kg1 Rgb8 124. Kg2 Kb7 125. Kg1 Kc8 126. Kf1 Kb7 127. Kg1 Kc6 128. Kf1 Ra7 129. Kg1 Raa8 130. Kf2 Kd6 131. Kg1 Re8 132. Kf2 Rab8 133. Kg1 Kc6 134. Kg2 Kd6 135. Kg1 Kc7 136. Kg2 Kd8 137. Kg1 Ke7 138. Kg2 Kd8 139. Kg1 Qc6 140. Qg2 Rg8 141. Qf2 Rh8 142. Kf1 Qd7 143. Kg1 Kc7 144. Kf1 Rh7 145. Kg1 Ra8 146. Kf1 Rf8 147. Kg1 Rhf7 148. Kf1 Ra8 149. Kg1 Rff8 150. Qd2 Rg8 151. Kg2 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: Do some chess machines suffer from delirium tremens? Grand-Father beats stockfish 14 at 1+5 in lichess.

Post by lkaufman »

Father wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:29 pm
jmartus wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:09 pm Is he able to beat these new generation of chess engines?

Do some chess machines suffer from delirium tremens ?

Delirium tremens or trembling delirium is a form of disorder of our consciousness. It is a "confuctional scheme" that includes visions of objects, animals, or people.

The present chess game in time control of "1 + 5", in the long term produced "hallucinations to the Stockfish 14 computer" and the machine due to "extreme fatigue", "perhaps nervousness added to physical and emotional instability,anxiety, excessive sweating , irritability, and extreme excitement, nightmares, visions, hallucinations, temples, shakes and convulsions," , ill and resigned.

The psychological profile of chess computers is a reality. His or her creators decide what trend and what item or character the machine will have.

I will have a good beer to review and enjoy this victory to the machine, before continuing with new battles of man against machine.

Best tegards,

Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
Father & Grand-Father playchess engines room


[pgn][Event "Casual Blitz game"]
[Site "https://lichess.org/P1qpvuVZ"]
[Date "2021.09.12"]
[White "Catecan"]
[Black "lichess AI level 8"]
[Result "1-0"]
[UTCDate "2021.09.12"]
[UTCTime "13:39:58"]
[WhiteElo "1947"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[Variant "Standard"]
[TimeControl "60+5"]
[ECO "D00"]
[Opening "Queen's Pawn Game"]
[Termination "Normal"]
[Annotator "lichess.org"]

1. d4 d5 2. e3 { D00 Queen's Pawn Game } e6 3. c3 Nf6 4. f4 Bd6 5. Nf3 c5 6. a3 Nc6 7. Bd3 O-O 8. O-O b6 9. Qe2 Bb7 10. Ba6 Bxa6 11. Qxa6 c4 12. Qa4 Qc7 13. Qc2 b5 14. Re1 Ne4 15. Nbd2 f5 16. Nf1 a5 17. Bd2 Be7 18. Reb1 a4 19. Be1 h6 20. g3 Na5 21. Rc1 Nb3 22. Rab1 Nxc1 23. Rxc1 Bd6 24. Qd1 g5 25. Rc2 Qg7 26. Rg2 g4 27. Nh4 Be7 28. Qe2 Kh7 29. Kh1 Bxh4 30. gxh4 Qe7 31. Bg3 Qb7 32. Nd2 Nd6 33. Nb1 Qe7 34. Qe1 h5 35. Kg1 Rf7 36. Kh1 Rd8 37. Kg1 Kg6 38. Kh1 Rff8 39. Kg1 Qd7 40. Kh1 Rb8 41. Kg1 Qe7 42. Kh1 Rbd8 43. Kg1 Qc7 44. Kh1 Qd7 45. Kg1 Ne4 46. Kh1 Rf7 47. Kg1 Kf6 48. Kh1 Ke7 49. Kg1 Kd6 50. Kh1 Kc6 51. Kg1 Rh7 52. Kh1 Kb6 53. Kg1 Rf7 54. Kh1 Rff8 55. Kg1 Rh8 56. Kh1 Qe8 57. Kg1 Rd7 58. Kh1 Re7 59. Kg1 Qd7 60. Kh1 Ree8 61. Kg1 Rhg8 62. Kh1 Rd8 63. Kg1 Ra8 64. Kh1 Qf7 65. Kg1 Qc7 66. Kh1 Qd7 67. Kg1 Raf8 68. Kh1 Qf7 69. Kg1 Rg7 70. Kh1 Qd7 71. Kg1 Rb8 72. Kh1 Re8 73. Kg1 Ra8 74. Kh1 Qc6 75. Kg1 Raa7 76. Kh1 Rgc7 77. Kg1 Ra8 78. Kh1 Rf7 79. Kg1 Rb7 80. Kh1 Rab8 81. Kg1 b4 82. axb4 Ra8 83. Na3 Kc7 84. Kh1 Kd6 85. Kg1 Ke7 86. Kh1 Kf6 87. Kg1 Ke7 88. Kh1 Rb6 89. Kg1 Kf7 90. Kh1 Rbb8 91. Kg1 Kg7 92. Kh1 Re8 93. Kg1 Qd7 94. Kh1 Re7 95. Kg1 Ree8 96. Kh1 Nd6 97. Kg1 Nb5 98. Qc1 Kf6 99. Kh1 Ke7 100. Kg1 Kd6 101. Kh1 Ke7 102. Kg1 Reb8 103. Qe1 Kd6 104. Kh1 Kc6 105. Kg1 Kb6 106. Kh1 Kc7 107. Kg1 Kb6 108. Kh1 Kc6 109. Kg1 Kd6 110. Kh1 Kc7 111. Kg1 Kd8 112. Kh1 Ra7 113. Kg1 Kc7 114. Kh1 Kd6 115. Kg1 Nxa3 116. bxa3 Kc6 117. Rc2 Kd6 118. Qf2 Ke7 119. Kg2 Kd6 120. Kg1 Raa8 121. Kg2 Kc7 122. Qd2 Rg8 123. Kg1 Rgb8 124. Kg2 Kb7 125. Kg1 Kc8 126. Kf1 Kb7 127. Kg1 Kc6 128. Kf1 Ra7 129. Kg1 Raa8 130. Kf2 Kd6 131. Kg1 Re8 132. Kf2 Rab8 133. Kg1 Kc6 134. Kg2 Kd6 135. Kg1 Kc7 136. Kg2 Kd8 137. Kg1 Ke7 138. Kg2 Kd8 139. Kg1 Qc6 140. Qg2 Rg8 141. Qf2 Rh8 142. Kf1 Qd7 143. Kg1 Kc7 144. Kf1 Rh7 145. Kg1 Ra8 146. Kf1 Rf8 147. Kg1 Rhf7 148. Kf1 Ra8 149. Kg1 Rff8 150. Qd2 Rg8 151. Kg2 { Black resigns. } 1-0[/pgn]
Lichess apparently makes sf resign after 150 moves, perhaps as a handicap of sorts. Congratulations on lasting 150 moves and thus earning a draw, but sf won’t agree that you won, only lichess. I have still not seen a game you won with the needed 1 sec inc except by this arbitrary lichess 150 move rule.
Komodo rules!