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Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:27 am
by tomgdrums
Does Naum 4 give different analysis then Rybka 3 or Shredder 12? Is it worth getting at this point?

Thanks!

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:37 am
by M ANSARI
It plays a little differently and has different material balance evaluation on some critical positions. Most notable difference I noticed is that it evaluates a bishop pair much higher than Rybka 3 and thus gets a lof of nice wins due to that. It is overall quite a bit weaker than R3 though, but it gets some good hits.

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:06 am
by Eelco de Groot
Hello Tom, I thought you were one of the Clint Eastwoods or the Ronald Reagans who have joined us and I get a bit suspicious whether those are actually their real names. Especially Ronald Reagan, but maybe there are a lot of those in the US. And why not. Clint Eastwood would also be a great candidate for the moderator elections here. But I recognize now your nickname from the Rybka Forum, the drums teacher! Welcome to CCC and my apologies to your president!

Eelco

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:29 pm
by Rolf
I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:31 pm
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
Dr.D

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:32 pm
by Rolf
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
Dr.D
Who is better?

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:35 pm
by Dr.Wael Deeb
Rolf wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
No it's not since a while now Rolf....
Dr.D
Who is better?
My grandma but you already know that....
Dr.D

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:02 pm
by tomgdrums
M ANSARI wrote:It plays a little differently and has different material balance evaluation on some critical positions. Most notable difference I noticed is that it evaluates a bishop pair much higher than Rybka 3 and thus gets a lof of nice wins due to that. It is overall quite a bit weaker than R3 though, but it gets some good hits.
Thanks for the help! I may get it after all. I really enjoy checking out the different options the engines can come up with.

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:03 pm
by tomgdrums
Eelco de Groot wrote:Hello Tom, I thought you were one of the Clint Eastwoods or the Ronald Reagans who have joined us and I get a bit suspicious whether those are actually their real names. Especially Ronald Reagan, but maybe there are a lot of those in the US. And why not. Clint Eastwood would also be a great candidate for the moderator elections here. But I recognize now your nickname from the Rybka Forum, the drums teacher! Welcome to CCC and my apologies to your president!

Eelco
Thanks for the welcome!! It is fun to be here. Incidentally why did my name make you think of Clint Eastwood?

Re: Do I really need Naum 4?

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:03 pm
by tomgdrums
Rolf wrote:I would also want to get information about potential diffs on diff hardwares. Otherwise these "overall" this or that dont make much sense. Apparently Naum isnt interesting, Rybka 3 simply is the best.
Why do you say that Naum isn't interesting?